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Isador Italiener (b. 1797, d. 1893)
Isador Italiener was born 1797, and died 1893 in Danzig. He married Rose Becker, daughter of Becker.
Notes for Isador Italiener:
Karl and Julius Italiener are twins.
Birthdate according to Kthe Beutler; other sources list 1801.
Recollections of Kthe Beutler:
On the wall in our living room there was a picture, a photograph at
which I looked very often. It was approximately 20 by 15 inches, and
showed a building which was the stock market in Danzig, with a big crowd
of men in front of it. The men all wore black stiff round hats and old fash-
ioned coats. My father (Ludwig Italiener, RN 81) pointed to one of the men
and told us that this was his father (Isador Italiener, RN 111). Next to him
was a boy, and that was my father. I never asked him what he was doing
there, and what, for that matter, his father was doing there. I assume that
it really was not a stock market, but a commodity marked. Since my grand-
father was a lumber merchant, maybe he did his dealing there. On the other
hand, maybe he did some speculating. I know that he speculated in real es-
tate, because my father showed in Zoppot (where I went with him once) a
busy corner in the middle of the town. He told me that this real estate once
belonged to my grandfather, but that he had not the patience to wait long
enough, and sold it before it became valuable. Furthermore, I heard that he
was very good at evaluating diamonds. My mother told me that, as a
bride-to-be she had asked for pearls, but he refused to get them for her,
saying the did not know anything about pearls, but that he had a good knowl-
edge of diamonds. And so it was diamonds that she got, big showy ones
which she never liked.
My grandfather died when he was pretty old, about 93 or 94 years old.
In fact, he was born in 1797, so he was born in the eighteenth century. He
died before I was born. My grandmother (Rose Becker, RN 79) died much
earlier, in fact before my parents got married.
Children of Isador Italiener and Rose Becker are:
- +Heinrich Italiener, d. date unknown, Danzig.
- Karl Italiener, d. date unknown.
- +Julius Italiener, b. 1853, d. 1912, Berlin.
- +Ludwig Italiener, b. 1855, Danzig, d. 1941, Berlin.

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