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29700. Thomas Josselyn was born in 1507. (75) He died in 1562. (75) He has reference number AUD38173. [gates.FTW]

Immigrant Thomas Josselyn / Joslin , Sir Knight.

It is interesting to note that although they arrived three years apart,
immigrants Thomas Joslin and Stephen Gates were neighbors in Hingham,
Mass and then both moved to, and were founders of Lancaster, Mass. Also,
Nathaniel Joslin ( a son of Thomas Joslin) was a neighbor of Stephen
Gates and apparently the same Nathaniel Joslin took the inventory of
Stephen Gates estate when he died.

"Stephen (Gate's) house lot (in Lancaster) was "on the neck Lying north
to the house Lott of John Whitcomb Juner bounded by the said Lott of John
Whitcomb south by the house Lott of Nathaniel Joslin north by a Rang of
Lotts Easterly which Lyeth on the west side of Penicook River and
westward by a piece of entervail of his own nigh adjoyning to the North
River the said house Lott being Laid out for twenty acres more or Less"
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This is the Josselyn lineage to immigrant Thomas Joslin from NEHGR Vol
71:236-257, 1917. Some dates of birth estimates added by me.

1 Sir Gilbert Joselyn 1070 -
. 2 Geoffrey Jocelyn 1091 -
....... +de Bissett 1091 -
.... 3 William Jocelyn 1110 -
.......... +Oswalda Goushall 1110 -
........ 4 Robert Jocelyn 1130 -
.............. +Fleming 1130 -
........... 5 James Jocelyn 1150 -
................. +Joan Threckenholm 1150 -
.............. 6 Henry Jocelyn 1170 -
.................... +Jane Chastelin 1170 -
.................. 7 Ralph Jocelyn 1190 -
........................ +Beatrice 1190 -
..................... 8 John Jocelyn 1210 -
........................... +Katherine Battell 1210 -
........................ 9 Thomas Jocelyn 1230 - 1277
.............................. +Maud Hide 1230 -
............................ 10 Thomas Jocelyn 1249 - 1284
.................................. +Alice Liston 1249 -
............................... 11 Ralph Jocelyn 1275 - 1312
..................................... +Maud Sutton 1275 -
.................................. 12 Jeffrey Jocelyn 1310 - 1360
........................................ +Margaret Rockell 1310 -
...................................... 13 Ralph Jocelyn 1345 - 1383
............................................ +Margaret de Patmer 1355 -
......................................... 14 Jeffrey Jocelyn 1380 -
1425
............................................... +Katherine 1380 -
This is the common
ancestor of the two branches
Sir Thomas Josselyn b
1510 above, the asserted line of immigrant
Stephen Gates,
descends down another branch from here.
............................................ 15 Jeffrey Josselyn 1415 -
1471
.................................................. +Katherine 1415 -
................................................ 16 John Josselyn 1445
- 1524
...................................................... +Anne 1445 -
................................................... 17 Ralph Josselyn
1475 - 1525
......................................................... +Elizabeth
Cornish 1475 -
...................................................... 18 Ralph
Josselyn 1503 -
.......................................................... 19 John
Josselyn 1525 -
................................................................ +Alice
Nevell 1525 - 1601
............................................................. 20 Ralph
Josselyn 1556 - 1632
............................................................. *3rd Wife
of Ralph Josselyn:
...................................................................
+Which Wife Mom? 1556 -
................................................................ 21
Thomas Joslin 1591 - 1661

Immigrant...

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This is the Josselyn lineage to immigrant Stephen Gates, per
Powers-Banks:

1 Sir Thomas Josselyn 1510 - 1561 d: 1561
.. +Dorothy Gates 1512 - 1582 d: 1582
(See above in Gates and Josselyn Lineages)
......... 2 Jane Josselyn 1536 -
......... 2 Mary Josselyn 1537 -
......... 2 Richard Josselyn 1538 - 1575 d: 1575
......... 2 Thomas Josselyn 1540 -
......... 2 John Josselyn 1542 - 1602 d: Abt. 1602
......... 2 Leonard Josselyn 1544 - 1561 d: Bef. 1561
......... 2 Henry Josselyn 1546 -
......... 2 Edward Josselyn 1542 - 1627 d: April 15, 1627
............. +Mary Lambe 1542 - 1614/15 d: February 22, 1614/15
.................... 3 Henry Josselyn 1560 -
.................... 3 John Josselyn 1562 -
.................... 3 Thomas Josselyn 1564 -
.................... 3 Winifred Josselyn 1566 -
........................ +John Syday 1566 -
.................... 3 Jane Josselyn 1568 -
.................... 3 Dorothy Josselyn 1570 -
........................ +Richard Stebbins 1570 -
.................... 3 Mary Josselyn 1560 -
........................ +Peter Gates 1560 -
............................... 4 Thomas Gates 1580 -
........................................... 5 Stephen Gates, Immigrant
1600 -
........................................... 5 Sir Thomas Gates 1610 -
.................... 3 Anne Josselyn 1572 -
For more information on this point, Michael Roman presents his Joslin
ahnentafel to early times.
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12th gr-grandfather of Joanne Wheeler Duncan.

29701. Dorothy Gates was born in 1505. (75) She has reference number AUD38080. [gates.FTW]

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Gates / Josselyn to Immigrant Stephen Gates

Sir John Gates, put to death in the Jane Grey affair, was the brother of
Dorothy Gates, who married Sir Thomas Josselyn in 1524. He was also the
brother of Sir Geoffrey Gates, who married Elizabeth Clopton. From those
marriages comes one theory of the origins of the American immigrant,
Stephen Gates. The exact lineage is in dispute. The assertion put forth
by Powers-Banks is:

Gates Line
1 Geoffrey Gates, Sir 1470 - 1526 d: 1526
.. +Elizabeth Clopton 1470 -
......... 2 Geoffrey Gates 1506 -
............. +Pascall 1506 -
........................Ancestors of Gen Horatio Gates reportedly down
this line
But, see note on doubt about that.
.................... 3 Geoffrey Gates 1536 -
.................... *2nd Wife of Geoffrey Gates:
........................ +Joan Wentworth 1536 -
............................... 4 [2] Peter Gates 1560 -
................................... +[1] Mary Josselyn 1560 -
........................................... 5 [3] Thomas Gates 1580 -
...................................................... 6 [4] Stephen
Gates, Mass Immigrant 1600 - 1662
.......................................................6 [4] Sir Thomas
Gates, VA Immigrant
Second line caused by cousin marriage: a Gates / Josselyn line
......... 2 Dorothy Gates 1512 - 1582 d: 1582
Will probated Dec 11, 1582
............. +Sir Thomas Josselyn 1510 - 1561 d: 1561
.................... 3 Edward Josselyn 1542 - 1627 d: April 15, 1627
........................ +Mary Lambe 1542 - 1614/15 d: February 22,
1614/15
............................... 4 [1] Mary Josselyn 1560 -
................................... +[2] Peter Gates 1560 -
........................................... 5 [3] Thomas Gates 1580 -
...................................................... 6 [4] Stephen
Gates, Immigrant 1600 - 1662
.......................................................6 [4] Sir Thomas
Gates, VA Immigrant

Note that Peter Gates and Mary Josselyn, 4 and 5 in both of the above
charts, are first cousins, thus the double lineage.
Sir Thomas Gates, immigrant to Virginia, is said by Powers-Banks to have
returned to England. This source doesn't indicate if he has any American
descendants.

The above chart, under Geoffrey Gates, b 1506, shows the line from which
Powers-Banks says comes the immigrant in whose line is General Horatio
Gates, the bum who tried to overthrow General Washington in a covert plot
during the Revolution (but that's a whole other story).

A Gates researcher has found a marriage between a Peter Gates and Mary
Josselyn in 1605, which puts a kink in the lineage as above shown. I have
not seen where there is evidence that this marriage is the one of the
Mary, daughter of Edward Josselyn, to Peter, son of Geoffrey. If that is
their marriage, several questions arise: Could Stephen be their son, and
not their grandson? Married in 1628, this still gives a 5 year "window"
for him to be born in, from 1605-1610. Is there no parental relationship
at all?

Hopefully, future research will give us some answers.


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Horatio Gates Note:
From Dictionary of Notable Americans, 1904: "GATES, Horatio, military
commander, was born in Malden, Essex county, England, in 1728. The place
of his birth was the castle of the Duke of Leeds, and but little is known
of his parentage except rumors that he was the natural Soil of Sir Robert
Walpole, and others that made his father the butler in the employ of the
Duke." - So, there is some doubt about his heritage.... nmt
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6 Dorothy Gates b: 1505
+ Thomas Josselyn Sir Knight b: 1507 d: 1562
7 Mary Josselyn b: 1525
+ John Keble
+ John Glascock
8 Martha Glascock
+ Edmond Aleyne
7 Richard Josselyn b: 1526 d: 1575
+ Alice Shelton
+ Anne Lucas
7 Henry Gates b: 1527
7 John Gates b: 1529 Children were:

child i. Jane Josselyn was born in 1536.(75) She has reference number AUD38308.
child ii. Mary Josselyn* was born in 1537.(75) She has reference number AUD38174. [gates.FTW]

born 1525-1537
child iii. Richard Josselyn was born in 1538.(75) He died in 1575.(75) He has reference number AUD38179.
child iv. Thomas Josselyn was born in 1540.(75) She has reference number AUD38304.
child v. John Josselyn was born in 1542.(75) He has reference number AUD38183.
child14850 vi. Edward Josselyn*.
child vii. Leonard Josselyn was born in 1544.(75) He has reference number AUD38307.
child viii. Henry Josselyn was born in 1546.(75) He has reference number AUD38182.