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James Lindores (b. 1828, d. Aft. 1891)

James Lindores was born 1828 in Manchester, Lancashire, England, and died Aft. 1891.

Notes for James Lindores:
1891 census shows James age 60 as a widow in Manchester (boilermaker) boarding with Thomas Johnson
41 a forgeman from Byeres Green with wife Frances M 39 from Hoyland (sp?), Son John, 17 apprentice boilermaker born in Brightside. All of them were living at 1 Cromer Street in Sheffield, Brightside.

James Lindores b 1828 Manchester
m Elizabeth Potts b 1828 Manchester
m 4.27.1851 Manchester
ch James b 1869 (imm to Belfast)
John b 1860
Robert 1862
Anne 1866
Alexander 1851-1859

Chances are there are more children due to marriage date.

Boilermaker on his son, Alexander Lindores, marriage certificate

LINDORES (in the old county of Fife)
NAME ON MAP: Londors DATE: 1203 EARLIEST RECORD: Lundors DATE: a.1182 MEANING: probably BRYTHONIC llyn `pool' with dwr `water' (with an OLD ENGLISH -s added) or doruis `opening'.

Dear Mssrs/Madame Local Studies Librarian:

Your counterpart in Sheffield, Silvia Pylus, suggested I contact you as
the Lindores family, whilst on the 1880 census, are not on any earlier census for that area and all indicate being born in Manchester.

The family I am looking for has these approximate dates:
James Lindores b 1828
m Elizabeth Potts b 1828 m 1851
ch James Lindores b 1869
John Lindores b 1860
Robert Lindores b 1862
Anne Lindores b 1866
Alexander Lindores b approx 1851-1859
maybe a William too?

I am pretty sure they had more children than this due to their marriage date. By the 1880 census Alexander would have already left home and immigrated to Belfast. My ggrandfather James, was soon to follow. Both worked on building the Titanic. Of course if I can take them even further back than this, I would be extremely happy and will dance a jig!!!

I would love to send you the research I have on this family so far so if I can have a fax number I would be happy to fax it to you.
I am not sure how to go about the next steps though. If I can confirm all of the above, I would like birth certificates and marriage certificates and death certificates for any and all of the above. I do not have a bank account that is in Sterling Pounds, but do have credit cards and hope those will suffice.

At some point further back, I know they will all end up in Scotland as more like than not they all came from Lindores, Fife, Scotland. This name is not very common and there are very few people in the world with this name. 95% of the ones I have found are related to me. To still be hooked in is a little pocket of them in Burnmouth and a convict named William was shipped off to Australia and there is pocket of them there as well.

My side of the family went to Canada from Ireland (where some still are) and then my grandfather moved to los Angeles and so there are some there as well.

Best regards,
Holly Ferguson
Miami Beach, Florida

Thank you for the family tree, received this morning.

I looked at the name indexes to the censuses of 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871,
which have been compiled by the local Family History Society, but could not
find any entry for Lindores on them. The 1881 census was compiled by the
Mormons, and is fairly widely avaialable on CD-Rom. On this I found an
entry (rather sketchily written by the enumerator) for 10 Midland Place,
Wincobank. This is for James Lindores (aged 52), a boiler maker, born
Manchester. His wife is Elizabeth (52), and his children John (21), Robert
(19), Anne (15) and James (12). All are listed as born in Manchester, and
the two eldest are also boiler makers. The reference is RG11/4664/127/6

It would appear that James was born c.1869 in Manchester and that the family
moved at some point to Sheffield. The address of Manchester Local Studies
and Archives is
archives@libraries.manchester.gov.uk/http://www.mlfhs.demon.co.uk/

I hope this is useful.

Yours sincerely,
Sylvia Pybus, Local Studies Librarian, August 8, 2001

NOTES FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE FAMILY HOOKUPS:
To: chris@seagull50.freeserve.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: lindores
hi Chris
as promised here are all the extracts regarding Lindores from grave stones in Ayton Kirk yard.
extracts are from AYTON, A BORDERS FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY. ISBN 1 874232 028.
-in memory of Robert Lindores fisherman Burnmouth who died 16th of the 5th 1880 aged 23 years. also John Lindores who died 27 1 1875aged 13 years. also Robert Lindores their father who was drowned in the terrible disaster 14 10 1881 aged 50 years. also James -Lindores his son who was drowned with him aged 27 years.
-in memory of William Lindores late fisherman in Burnmouth died 22 2 1823.
-in loving memory of Thomas Lindores beloved husband of Rachel Aitchison who died 17 8 1950 in his 72nd year also the above Rachel Aitchison who died 24 3 1961 aged 80 years also their son William who died in infancy also their daughter Elizabeth Martin Craig who died 16 7 1996 aged 91 years widow of Alexander Craig.( this is our g g grandfather and grandmother)
-in loving memory of our dear mother Margaret Lindores who died 17 10 1957 aged 54.(our grandmother)
-in memory of William Ross Meek beloved husband of Nancy Lindores who died 19 12 1946 aged 41 years also the above Nancy Lindores who died 17 1 1991 in her 84th year. (Aunt Nancy)
-in loving memory of James Lindores beloved husband of Mary P Aitchison who was accidentally killed 5 5 1950 aged 46 years also the above Mary P Aitchison who died 21 7 1983 aged 79 years
-in loving memory of Peter Johnston died 25 10 1990 aged 90 years beloved husband of Helen Kerr Lindores.
-in loving memory of Catherine W Lindores who died 22 9 1980 aged 76 years beloved wife of William who died 2 4 1986 aged 86.
-in memory of William Martin, Burnmouth who was lost at sea 7 1 1852 aged 33 years. also Catherine his daughter who died on the 1 1 1872 aged 21 years also Thomas Martin his son who was drowned 1 9 1877 aged 33 years also Robert Martin son of the said Thomas Martin who died 16 7 1876 aged 7 months also James Lindores the beloved husband of Elizabeth Lindores daughter of the above William Martin one of the crew of the Transcendent of Burnmouth which foundered at sea 14 10 1881 aged 25 years also their daughter died in infancy. also Susan Kerr wife of the above William Martin who died 22 6 1900 aged 79 years also George Martin their son who died 27 7 1914 aged 66 years.

1) Eric Thomas Svedenstierna, Tour of Great Britain (1802)

I travelled in the company of Mr. Bourne from Liverpool to Manchester. This town has extended extraordinarily, especially in the last fifteen years, through its cotton manufactures. Several circumstances have united to favour the growth of the cotton industry, among which the general use of the fine, white and light cotton fabric, which has almost supplanted silk throughout Europe, may deserve first place. Next to this comes the invention of the spinning machines. In almost all these machines are driven by steam engines. With such a large demand for coal, it is no small advantage that at even the present high prices, Manchester can have coal at about 50 per cent cheaper than the coal cost a little over 40 years ago, before the Duke of Bridgewater's Canal was finished, from whose coal mines practically the whole of Manchester is supplied.

(2) Alexis de Tocqueville was a French aristocrat who visited Manchester in 1835.

A sort of black smoke covers the city. Under this half-daylight 300,000 human beings are ceaselessly at work. The homes of the poor are scattered haphazard around the factories. From this filthy sewer pure gold flows. In Manchester civilised man is turned back almost into a savage.

(3) James Kay-Shuttleworth, wrote an account of Manchester in 1832.

Frequently, the inspectors found two or more families crowded into one small house and often one family lived in a damp cellar where twelve or sixteen persons were crowded. Children are ill-fed, dirty, ill-clothed, exposed to cold and neglect; and in consequence, more than one-half of the off-spring die before they have completed their fifth year.

(4) Edwin Chadwick, The Sanitary Conditions of the Labouring Population (1842)

It is an appalling fact that, of all who are born of the labouring classes in Manchester, more than 57& die before they attain five years of age; that is, before they can be engaged in factory labour, or in any other labour whatsoever.

(5) Dr. Roberton, a Manchester surgeon, wrote a letter to the Parliamentary Committee on the Health of Towns in 1840.

Manchester is a huge overgrown village, built according to no definite plan. The factories have sprung up along the rivers Irk, Irwell and Medlock, and the Rochdale Canal. The homes of the work-people have been built in the factory districts. The interests and convenience of the manufacturers have determined the growth of the town and the manner of that growth, while the comfort, health and happiness have not been considered. Manchester has no public park or other ground where the population can walk and breathe the fresh air. Every advantage has been sacrificed to the getting of money.

Abbotsford cemetery, British Columbia
LINDORES MAXWELL 1904 i 1986 Hazelwood T
LINDORES NORA EILEEN 1909 i 1995 Hazelwood T
LINDORES ROBERT 1867 i 1933 Musselwhite T

More About James Lindores and <Unnamed>:
Single: April 27, 1851, Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England.

Children of James Lindores are:

+James Lindores, b. 1869, Manchester, England, d. date unknown, Belfast, Ireland.