Descendants of Edward * GIBBS

 

 

Generation No. 1

 

1.  EDWARD *1 GIBBS was born Abt. 1772 in England; parents Ed Sr. & Rachel or John & Susan, and died in see NOTES - 3 possible Edward Gibbs?.  He married MARY * NEWBOLD 1798 in Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England, daughter of JAMES NEWBOLD and SUSANNA ASTER.  She was born 1773 in Probably England - Uncertain this is MY Edward's wife?.

 

Notes for EDWARD * GIBBS:

Although I'm quite certain this is the correct name and parents of Alfred Page, there are 3 likely candidates for his Father, Edward.  The IGI programs show 3 Edward Gibbs born in the Leicester area of England between 1777 & 1783.  More confusing is the unlikely finding that 2 of these show the same names for both Father & Mother: Edward (Sr.) & Rachel, and christened at the same Church: All Saints, Loughborough, Leicester, England; one on July 29, 1777, the other Feb 5, 1783.  It seems hard to believe, based on our current culture that the same parents named the 2nd child the same as the 1st presuming the 1st died?...  or could one child have been christened twice?  The 3rd Edward was born of Father, John Gibbs with no Mother listed, and christened at Ashby de La Zouch, Leicester, England on May 12, 1778.

 

The following is from a website about Leicestershire, disussing Coal mining as a major industry:   The coal measures have a total area of ahout 15 square miles, the most productive mines being in the neighbourhood of Ashby de la Zouch.

 

He may have had a 2nd wife named Ann BUCkERFIELD who an Edward Gibbs married in 1811.    Edward may have had parents John GIBBS & Susanna who had a son, Edward baptized in 1783 (see top of page).

 

More About EDWARD * GIBBS:

Burial: He may have had 2nd wife, Ann BUCKERFIELD, 1811

       

Children of EDWARD GIBBS and MARY NEWBOLD are:

                   i.    SUSANNAH NEWBOLD2 GIBBS, b. December 26, 1799.

2.               ii.    ALFRED * PAGE (I) GIBBS, b. 1803, Leicestershire, England; Baptz. @Ashby de la Zouch; d. Unknown, NY ?  see NOTES.

                 iii.    ELIZABETH ASTEY GIBBS, b. 1803, This may be ASTER, as in her Mat. GrMoth.maiden.

                 iv.    JOHN GIBBS, b. January 14, 1806, Baptz. at Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England.

 

 

Generation No. 2

 

2.  ALFRED * PAGE (I)2 GIBBS (EDWARD *1) was born 1803 in Leicestershire, England; Baptz. @Ashby de la Zouch, and died Unknown in NY ?  see NOTES.  He married MARY * GIBSON Unknown in England Before 1826.  She was born Abt. 1805 in England, and died Unknown in NY ?.

 

Notes for ALFRED * PAGE (I) GIBBS:

The IGI, British Isles CD-ROM records shows Alfred Page GIBBS was christened in 1803 (no B.D. given) at Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester, England; Parents were listed as Edward GIBBS & Mary.  Same records show Alfred & Mary as the parents of Child George GIBBS, Geo. being christened March 5, 1827 at All Saints, Loughborough, Leicester, England. (My first discovery of George's parents and evidence confirming his birth in England was in September 1994 at the McClean Co. Historical museum library.), It also shows an apparent twin sister born at same time as Alfred in 1803, same parents!  I have found A. GIBBS in the New York 1830 census living in N.Y.City, census page 411, NYC 13th ward (or Precinct?). & in 1840 A. GIBBS in Seneca County, Ovid Twp.NY, census page 287.  No A. or Alfred or A.P. GIBBS found in NY, PA or OH census of 1850.    I believe it very likely the 1830 one is our man, but the 1840 one is less likely.

 

 

 

 

More About ALFRED * PAGE (I) GIBBS:

Event 1: 1826, Came to USA from England

       

Children of ALFRED GIBBS and MARY GIBSON are:

                   i.    JOHN F.3 GIBBS, b. August 16, 1824, killed in Pope's retreat at Battle of 2nd Bull Run (Mannasas); d. Abt. 1862, wife was possibly Esther C. CRANE -Civil War records.

 

Notes for JOHN F. GIBBS:

This Birthdate may be in error - there is a John GIBBS killed in the battle described excactly but allegedly born in 1830 - here is an Email dealing with him from Brian Pohanka, DZouave5@aol.com dated December 28, 2000:

 

Looking at the 5th NY, which would be the Duryee Zouaves, I see a John Gibbs in Company C, who was 31 when he enlisted in April 1861, making him born circa 1830. He was killed at Second Bull Run, or Second Manassas, on August 30, 1862. His wife's maiden name was Esther C. Crane, he married her in 1850.

 Ellsworth Zouaves were the 11th New York, the Fire Zouaves, so-called. The 73rd NY was called the "Second Fire Zouaves". He may have served in one of those units, and indeed New York had more than a dozen Zouave regiments, though Ellsworth was only associated, personally, with the 11th NY.  Pope was the Union General who was worsted at Second Bull Run -- and this was where the 5th NY made a doomed stand trying to hold back the Confederate attack, and losing terribly while so doing.   The IGI gives his name as John with middle name = Edward, but I cannot be certain it is George's brother.    My Handed down family records typed by someone have the name John Gibbs typed and a middle initial hand written that appears more like an " F " to me.

 

A 2nd Email also from Brian Pohanka, DZouave5@aol.com:

 

The 5th NY was recruited for the most part in the NY City area. The age seems to be off, but I have seen

many cases where men who were older claimed a younger age, and of course the other way round --

kids claiming to be 18 or 20, etc. Pope was the Union General who was worsted at Second Bull Run --

 and this was where the 5th NY made a doomed stand trying to hold back the Confederate attack, and losing

terribly while so doing.

 

More About JOHN F. GIBBS:

Burial: if correct man, he married Esther 1850

 

3.               ii.    GEORGE * GIBBS, b. January 9, 1826, Leicestershire County, England; Ch.3-5-1827 see Notes; d. January 26, 1903, Foster, OH - Warren Co..

 

 

Generation No. 3

 

3.  GEORGE *3 GIBBS (ALFRED * PAGE (I)2, EDWARD *1) was born January 9, 1826 in Leicestershire County, England; Ch.3-5-1827 see Notes, and died January 26, 1903 in Foster, OH - Warren Co..  He married (1) MARY * MATILDA CHAMBERS February 5, 1848 in Christ Episcopal Ch, Cincinnati, OH-1847?, daughter of WILLIAM CHAMBERS and ISABELLA BEATTY.  She was born April 9, 1828 in Fermanagh Co, Ireland - both of her parents also Irish, and died December 16, 1882 in Washington Co, IN.  He married (2) MARY LOUISA LOGAN June 14, 1884 in Brookville, Indiana - Franklin Co.-2nd mg. for Geo., daughter of JAMES LOGAN and ELIZABETH COLESCOTT.  She was born 1845 in from Franklin County, IN ?, and died Aft. 1920 in Probably in Ohio; see letters to O.G. Gibbs.

 

Notes for GEORGE * GIBBS:

Family notes (I cannot determine the source {MAG}) however it states:  George Gibbs, a native of Leicestershire, England, was born January 9, 1826.    Many of the descendants have had copies of this note- apparently for many years:

He was one of 2 sons born to Alfred P. And Mary (GIBSON) GIBBS, both natives of England, from whence they came to New York City in 1826, (I suspect was after March 1827 instead of 1826, although there is one line of descendants who had handed down that George came to the U.S. at age 9y.o - that would be about 1835- {MAG}) with small son George.  Mr. A.P. Gibbs owned a shoe store in NYC.  They lived in various Eastern cities, but always looked upon New York as their home.

 

 There are 3 George GIBBS in the Ohio 1850 census index: 1.) Ashtabula Co., Williamsfield Twp, census page 358.  2.)Ross Co., Chillicothe Twp. census page 137.  3.) Huron Co. Norwalk Twp, page 77 - NONE of which appear to be ours.

 

   According to family handed down history, George Gibbs remained at home until 18 years old. He had learned the shoemakers trade early and continued it when he moved to Cincinnati @ 18 (about 1844) There he worked until June 1846, when he enlisted in the First Rifles, First Ohio Volunteers Infantry, I later learned this might have just been called the First Ohio Volunteers, in which George was in Company K.  He served with his regiment under Zachary Taylor, participating in the battles of Monterrey, Buena Vista & Matamoras, Mexico.    He was mustered out in August 1847,  according to family records, but books & Government records on the subject show he was mustered out June 12, 1847 and returned to Cincinnati.   I'll now give a short summary of his military involvement in the Mexican-American War:   The 1st Regiment Ohio Volunteers was organized at Camp Washington, near Cincinnati June 23, 1846 and received into the service of the United States by General Wool by transfer from the governor of Ohio.  George Gibbs is listed as a Private in Company K, organized June 4, 1846.   He entered service June 5.   The company was commanded by Capt. Wm. H. Ramsey.  After the regimental formation by the election of Colonel Alexander M. Mitchell, active preparations were made for the embarkmentation of the regiment to Mexico on the Steamer "NEW WORLD".   The regiment passed Vicksburg on July 6, 1846 and arrived at New Orleans the following Saturday after a "speedy, safe and pleasant voyage".   It then proceeded to Port Isabel, TX and to the "enemies country" - then marched to Camargo, Mexico.  Gen. Taylor arrived at this place Aug. 8, 1846 and on the 17th orders were issued for the troops to prepare to move in the direction of Monterey.   The 1st regiment left Camargo, Sept. 6, and arrived Monterey on Sept. 19th.  The regiment entered the town on the Right, being assailed by heavy fire from the enemy in front and flank.  Col. Mitchell and adjuvant Armstrong were wounded and Lt. Matthew was killed.  While the regiment confronted the enemies 2nd work, NO.3, Rincondel, Diablo -  the Battle of Monterey Sept. 21, 1846 was won.

  

 He may have remained in Cincinnati until June 1855.  In that year he first came to Washington Co., IN and bought a farm in 1856 upon which he resided until 1886.  He then moved to Seymour, Indiana in 1885 and from there to Foster, Ohio, Warren County in October 1891 according to notes on Mary's request for George's War Pension.

During the time he lived in Indiana he left for the Civil War.  In June 1861 he enlisted in Company G, 25th Indiana Volunteer Infantry, in which he served until Oct 5, 1862, when in the battle of , (I suspect that George was in the Mexican-American battle of Matamoros but that was obviously before the civil war battle in Mississippi as there was no battle of Matamoras in Mississippi {MAG}) his right leg was shot off by a cannon ball.  he lay in the hospital @ Jackson, TN.  until April 7, 1863 when he was discharged.  He also participated in the battle of Shiloh in April, 1862.   Later I discoverd there is mention of George's battle sometimes being referred to as Metamora for the ridge so named Metamora,  just West of the Davis bridge across the Hatchie River. - this  is all in Tennesee but close - just North of the Mississippi border.

 

     After his return from the Civil War he resumed farming in Washington County.   He had already married 7 years previous in 1848 - He married Mary Matilda CHAMBERS, a native of Ireland (born either Dublin or Frermanah?).  She  died Dec. 16, 1882 leaving 8 children: Alfred P.(age 34 when she died),  William G., John F., Mary B.(married a REID), Lucy, Oliver G., James E. & Charles C..  He later married Mary L. Logan on June 14, 1884 of Franklin Co.  Georges' only brother was killed on Pope's retreat in the Shenandoah's.  He belonged to the famous Ellsworth Zouaves, (?) a famous NY civil war regiment. The British Isles IGI Cd shows an Edward & George born of the correct parents in Leister area, with George having the exact B.D. as we have, but no John, so whether he had 2 brothers, one was Named John Edward (Edward John), or unless one of the names John or Edward is wrong from the 2 different sources? 

     Contradicting the first few sentences (above), is the 1880 census in which George apparently stated he was born in NY.  His family is listed then in Jefferson Township of Washington Co. IN., Page 12, residence # 101.  He is listed as a farmer and all children but Alfred P. (oldest) are listed @ that home.  Coincidentally an Elizabeth Persinger is listed just above the Gibbs, as a housekeeper for a family by the last name of Gullet.   

     A Salem, IN obituary states he was killed when his wagon was hit by a train at a crossing, also killing both horses.  The obituary does not say where he died but it sounded like it was not near where he was buried, I suspect the accident may have occurred as far away as Foster, Ohio. He is buried with Mary Matilda and a few of their infant children @ the Pollock (aka- Ratt) Cemetary which I have visited.  The cemetary is in a beautiful heavily wooded location near the top of a very large hill just West of the 160 acres that George is shown owning on the platt map of 1860. I could not find Mary Logan, his 2nd wife.  Its interesting that he was buried with his 1st wife. Most likely this means that Mary Logan remarried after George died?  It may be only coincidental but worth noting that although there are no CHAMBERS names in the Pollock cemetary but there is a Nathaniel CHAMBERS B:c.1748,D:2-11-1848 in the Walnut Ridge Cemetery & 3 CHAMBERS in the Haley Cemetary.  When I visited the difficult to find Pollock cemetary, I was struck by the dense wooded beauty with plenty of wild yucca growing including one large yucca next to their grave, but more surprisingly a small but recent looking american flag stuck in the ground at George's grave only....  There was nothing else in that entire ancient cemetery that showed evidence of living man's presence, but several other ancient graves.   The flag is undoubtedly placed indicating that he was a War Veteran.   Another discovery was an obituary of Miss Lucy Gibbs from Jan 25, 1889 stating daughter of George Gibbs of SEYMOUR and sister  of A.P. Gibbs died @ Colorado Springs Jan 13, 1889 while visiting Mrs. H.I. Reid (her sister, Mary Belle).

 

      July 1994: I have just visited Phillis Ballew, whom I was quite excited about discovering her living in Shattuck, Oklahoma, and who showed me a veritable treasure trove of old photos and letters including one actually written by George Gibbs himself in 1900, advising his son & daughter in-law (Oliver & Algie) to not move to Nebraska.  Another letter from his 2nd wife (Mary Logan) noting some of the facts of his death to son Oliver: "We kept your  Pa in the vault 5 days and then Will & Fred (Alfred) took him to Washington Co. and buried him beside your Mother they seemed to think that was the best.  Ralph went with them" She later went on to verify other things by adding "It was so sudden & unexpected that he should meet death in that way.  He had crossed that track so often; He had been so well all winter..had never had a cold.  That was so unusual for him. He had went to Foster three times that day.  The appraisement of the property was the 11th of this month.  The farm was appraised at $40 per acre." Then a P.S.: "Fred writes that Annie was married a few days ago."  I assume that Annie is actually Anna Matilda Gibbs McCammon and that Fred is my Great-Grandfather Alfred P. Gibbs and that Will is George's 2nd eldest Son.  The above verifies that George really is buried with the 1st Mary and I suspect that the 2nd Mary, the author of the letter, died, and is buried in Ohio.  I intend to search out other descendants of George, Especially of William, John, Belle, & their later family Nellie & Ralph.   A discovery in September 1994 at the McClean Co. Historical Museum CD-ROM IGI collection shows George was christened March 5, 1827 at All Saints, Loughborough, Leicester, England with parents Alfred & Mother Mary.  This is probably our George; same parents names as we already knew and the same location of birth as christened.     BE CAREFUL, George had the name MARY for BOTH of his WIVES, his MOTHER, and his PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER !!!

(i.e. all 4 of these important ladies in his life were ALL named Mary.)

 

1803 - George's Father Alfred P. born in Leicestershire County, England

1824 - George's Brother, John Edward believed born.

1826 -January 9, believe George born in Leicestershire, England

1827  - March 5, George Christened @ Ashby De La Zouch, Leicester.

1827  ??  came to U.S. as a small child (originally we learned 1826? - others believe could have been as late as 1835)

1844 - moved to Cincinnati from New York ? exact year/ date speculated - biography says at age 18

1846 - June 5 - joined Mexican-American War under Zachary Taylor 1st Regiment, Ohio Volunteers Infantry  Company K. -fought and U.S. won the                         Battle of Monterey, Mexico Sept. 20-21, 1846.

1847 - June 12 - mustered out of the volunteers, moved back to Cincinnati.

1848 - February 5th- Married Mary Matilda CHAMBERS; December 4, Son Alfred Page Gibbs born - Cincinnati, OH - other records suggest 1847

1850 - WHERE is he ? - I cannot find him on a census  ?? - one in NYC & New Orleans - or he could be living with a different head of                                              household?   should be in Cincinnati ?

1851 -  April 4, son William George Gibbs born in Ohio, probably in Cincinnati.

1853 - Son Clarence born

1855  -Son Clarence died and is buried in Pollock Cem. proving George was in Washington Co. by 1855 !

1856 - September- George is shown as purchasing land in Washington Co. - but apparently was there a year earlier.

1857  -Son John F. Gibbs born - I cannot find him after 1880 - did he die young ? - or is he the Frank we've discovered mention of living in KY.

1859  -Daughter Mary Belle Gibbs born (later Mrs. Reid who moved to Denver, Colorado)

1860 - July 13, Census - Washington Co, IN - Jefferson Twp. Pg. 156B/ 78

1861 - March- Daughter Lucy Gibbs born;  June - Joined the Civil War Company G 25th Indiana Volunteers

1862 - Battle of Shiloh (TN) April 6-7 then on October 5, 1862, Right Leg shot (& soon after amputated) with cannoball @ the skirmish of Hatchie River                 (Battle at Davis Bridge) - apparently just on the south edge of Tennesee near Pocohontas - NW of Corinth, Missisiippi.  - it was fought                           between the Metamora Ridge and the Davis Bridge over the Hatchie River - this just about a mile south of Pocahontas, TN.

1863 - April 7 - discharged from Hospital in Jackson TN and from Military service.

1865 - May 4, Son Oliver Grant Gibbs born.

1866 - December 1, son James Gibbs born.

1870 - July 7 - Census, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co,- Page 77A & part of family on top of 77B

1880 - Census - Washington Co, Jefferson Twp - Page439B

1882 - December 16, 1st wife, (my GG GM), Mary Matilda Dies

1884 - June 14, Married Mary Logan;  August 2, Grandaughter Grace Gibbs (My Grandmother) born in Washington Co., IN

1885 - son, Ralph born

1886 - Left Washington Co - Moved North one county to town of Seymour, Indiana - Jackson County

1889 - Daughter, Nellie born, August 6, according to George's postumous pension records - see below.

1891 - Family moved to land they bought about 1/2 mile East of Foster, OH, Warren Co, in October.

1900 - I have a letter from Foster, OH- He & Mary wrote to his son, Oliver Grant Gibbs - given to me by OG's Grandaughter, Philis Ballew @                              Shattuck,  OK.

1903  January 26, died near Foster OH in train-horse carriage accident -body shipped back with sons, Alfred & William.    Buried in the Pollock                          (Ratt) cemetary at far North Central part of Washington County) with his 1st wife Mary Matilda CHAMBERS.   

 

NOTE new information contradicting previously suspected information above about 1st wife, Mary Matilda Chambers' family is found in her NOTES - that she is NOT related to those CHAMBERS' in Washington Co.    Also, a note from August 2002 below suggests that George may have moved to Daviess County, Indiana, just South-East of Sullivan County and may have been there in the early 1890s before going back to Ohio.

 

March, 2000 - I finally received Papers from the Government on George's Veteran Pension papers.   There is only brief mention of his Mexican War time, but quite a bit on his Civil War period.   The main points gained from those papers were:

He and his 2nd wife Mary Louisa Logan moved from Seymour, (Jackson Co) Indiana to Foster, OH about Oct. 23, 1891, where they apparently had lived from around 1885/86.   George is listed as being age 35 at time of enrollment in 1861 to the Civil War and was 5 Ft. 10 Inches tall, dark complected - but hazel eyes & brown hair.  - It corroborates his Leicestershire, England Birth place.    It states he enrolled in the War July 15, 1861 and discharged April 7, 1863 - as an invalid due to cannonball injury to his Right Leg between the Knee and his ankle.   It states the leg was amputed while in the field.   He was listed as a Cordwainer (shoemaker).   This injury apparently occurred at "The Battle of Hatchi River"  (another notation calls it "The Battle of Big Hatchie -or the battle of Matamora") on October 5, 1862.    He spent some time in the hospital at Jackson, Tennessee.   It then shows he married Mary Logan at Brookville, IN (Franklin Co) June 14, 1884.   These papers state their child, Nellie Gibbs was a minor when George died in 1903 and that she was born in Seymour, IN     There is no mention of son Ralph except once when it is stated he moved with the family from Seymour, IN  to Foster, OH  in the Fall of 1891.   A general affidavit for Pension application written by Henry Zollman, age 82 years in 1904, states he knew George since moved to Washington Co, IN - and says George cleared up a "hill farm" and set out a large Orchard.   When the War broke out he enlisted.   Finally the papers state Mary Louisa was never married previously.   

 

July 2000- A man on the internet has just responded to my query in Hamilton Co, OH that the Hamilton Co. restored marriage records show George Gibbs married Mary M. Chambers Feb. 5, 1848 at the Christ Episcopal Church, Cincinnati, OH. - thus proving that George did return to Cincinnati after the Mexican American War.  I wish I could find out why Mary Chambers was there from Knox Co. - quite a distance in those days.    Philis Ballew sent a message that was written by one of Oliver Grant Gibbs'  Daughters, Gladys, stating George immigrated to the U.S. when he was 9 years old.  That would have been about 1835 - and that Mary Matilda Chambers was from Dublin.   Dublin is not in Fermanagh County, so she may have moved there from the other county.

 

MEXICAN-AMERICAN WAR SERVICE:

The following from a very authoritative man I luckily found on the internet:

Probably the definitive reference for Ohio Volunteer service is: Official Roster of Soldiers of the State of Ohio.  Laning Co.  Norwalk, OH.  1895.  Though quite rare, you should be able to find this reference at the Ohio State Library, and perhaps elsewhere.  The 1st Regiment OH Volunteers was organized at Camp Washington, near  Cincinnati, June 23, 1846, and received into the service of the United  States by General Wool by transfer from the Governor of Ohio on that date.  The companies composing the organization were recruited at that time.

 

George Gibbs is listed as a Private, Company K, organized June 4, 1846 at Cincinnati.  He entered service on June 5 and served for one year, mustered out June 12, 1847.  The company was commanded by Capt. William H.  Ramsey.  [Ohio Roster,  op. cit., 406-407.]

 

After the regimental formation by the election of Colonel Alexander M. Mitchell, active preparations were made for the embarkation of the Regiment to Mexico on the steamer "New World", which was made a few days later.  The Regiment passed Vicksburg on July 6, and arrived at New Orleans the following Saturday after a speedy, safe and pleasant voyage.

 

It then proceeded to Port Isabel, TX, and to the enemy's country, marching to Camargo.  General Taylor arrived at this place August 8, 1846 and on the 17th orders were issued for the troops to prepare to move in the direction of Monterey.  The First Regiment left Camargo September 6 and arrived before Monterey on the 19th.  The Regiment entered the town to the right, being assailed at every step by heavy fire, from the enemy in front and flank.  Col. Mitchell and Adjutant Armstrong were wounded and Lieutenant Matthew was killed, while the Regiment confronted the enemy's second work NO. 3, Rincondel, Diablo.  The battle of Monterey, September 21, 1846, was won.

 

Nothing more was heard of the regiment until February 24, 1847, when two companies of this regiment, under command of Captains Bradley and Vandever, Cos. F and I, went to Marin to the relief of Lt. Col. Irvin of the 2nd Ohio Vols.

 

On March 4, Maj. Giddings was ordered to march from Monterey to Camargo to escort Mr. Crittenden and Maj. Coffee (bearers of dispatches from headquarters) with three companies (apparently not including your ancestors's Co. K).  They were subsequently engaged in an embarrassing skirmish at Ceralvo on March 7.

 

The Regiment returned to New Orleans and was mustered out June 12, 1847.   Also some soldiers "re-upped" - I was not able to find Gibbs listed again so he probably decided he had had enough of difficult conditions he endured while in Mexico.

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Next is a summary of the CIVIL WAR Battle of Big Hatchie River - or Matamoras, Tennessee - where we believe George lost his Right leg by cannonball fire.

      Maj. Gen. Earl Van Dorn's Confederate Army of West Tennessee retreated from Corinth on October 4, 1862. Maj. Gen. William S. Rosecrans did not send forces in pursuit until the morning of the 5th. Maj. Gen. Edward O.C. Ord, commanding a detachment of the Army of West Tennessee, was, pursuant to orders, advancing on Corinth to assist Rosecrans. On the night of October 4-5, he camped near Pocahontas. Between 7:30 and 8:00 am the next morning, his force encountered Union Maj. Gen. Stephen A. Hurlbut's 4th Brigade, Army of West Tennessee, in the Confederates's front. Ord took command of the now-combined Union forces and pushed Van Dorn's advance, Maj. Gen. Sterling Price's Army of the West, back about five miles to the Hatchie River and across Davis' Bridge. After accomplishing this, Ord was wounded and Hurlbut assumed command. While Price's men were hotly engaged with Ord's forces,  Van Dorn's scouts looked for and found another crossing of the Hatchie River. Van Dorn then led his army back to Holly Springs. Ord had forced Price to retreat, but the Confederates escaped capture or destruction.  Although they should have done so, Rosecrans's army had failed to capture or destroy Van Dorn's force.

              Result(s): Union victory

              Location: Hardeman County and McNairy County

              Campaign: Iuka and Corinth Operations (1862)

              Date(s): October 5, 1862

              Principal Commanders: Maj. Gen. Edward O.C. Ord and Maj. Gen. Stephen A. Hurlbut [US]; Maj. Gen. Earl Van Dorn [CS]

              Forces Engaged: Detachment [US]; Army of the West [CS]

              Estimated Casualties: 900 total (US 500; CS 400)

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The information below sent by Email from another Email contact who volunteered his free research to our family:

Western Star Newspaper - Thursday, February 5, 1903  - Fosters-

 

"Fred and Will Gibbs of Sullivan, Indiana, sons of the late George Gibbs and Mr. and Mrs. Hagermeyer, of Norwood (n.b., Norwood is a Cincinnati suburb), attended the funeral of George Gibbs which took place from the M.E. Church at Maineville on Thursday at 1:30 PM. The remains were placed in the vault at Maineville Cemetery to await future burial. The bereaved widow and children have the sympathy of the entire community."

 

OBITUARY:   Western Star - Thursday, January 29, 1903   - Front page -

 

"Another Fatality at Foster's Crossing- Aged Veteran of Two Wars Run Down by New York Express"

 

"Coroner Carey was called to Fosters on Monday afternoon last by telephone which informed him that the railroad crossing there had been the scene of another fatality. The coroner reached there at 4 PM and found that the person killed was an old veteran of two wars. His name was George Gibbs. He was 82 years old and lived at the Gillis farm near Fosters.   He was going to mill in a one-horse jolt wagon and had a few sacks of corn with him. When he neared the crossing, a freight train was standing on the side-track near the crossing with the locomotive headed to the east. The engine frightened his horse and while he was trying to get it across the track, the fast express no. 7 was coming west on the other track. His attention being fixed on the freight train, he failed to notice the approach of the express and just as his horse crossed the track the engine struck his wagon tearing it in to hundreds of pieces and hurling the old veteran to his death. The train after running nearly half a mile before it could be stopped, then it backed up to the depot and the deceased was found fast on the cowcatcher. His death was instantaneous, his skull being badly mashed and his bones broke."

 

"The evidence showed that the proper signals had been given and that as the train approached the crossing the danger signal was given. It is indeed a sad case, that an old veteran of two wars, having lost his right leg in the war of the rebellion, should survive them both, only to lose his life by being run down by a railroad train near his home.  He leaves a wife and family of grown children."

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Here is the IGI listing on http://www.familysearch.org

George GIBBS -

Christening:  5 Mar 1827  All Saints, Loughborough, Leicester, England

  Parents: 

      Father:  Alfred GIBBS 

      Mother:  Mary

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I just discovered this listing for George on the Ancestry.com website:

 

Served Indiana  Enlisted G, Co. 25th Inf Reg. IN disch wounds on 07 April 1863  (Leg Amputated)       

  Source: Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Indiana;    Abbreviation: INRoster

                            Published by Holloway on 1865-66

 

 

Oct./Nov. 2001 - I've finally reached descendants of George's youngest child, Nellie =  Siblings Patricia & Jack ARBINO, children of Mary Gertrude BURKE & also have found Lee TOMLIN, husband of Mary Gertrude's sister - deceased Ethel BURKE  - Patricia & Jack live in the Cincinnati area and Lee lives in Whittier, California.   Jack has told me a few interesting stories although hasn't any photos of George.    He adds a note to the trauma death of George - that the horse carrying George and his wagon was not killed, but that horse would never cross railroad tracks after that wreck.    He says Nellie was a well educated woman and was a pianist as was his mother, Mary Gertrude.

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August 2002:   Just visited the historical museum at Salem, IN - found many interesting bits of newspaper clippings - mostly on Alfred P. Gibbs, son of George - however found this one mysterious sentence about George himself:    April 3, 1896 - George Gibbs returned to his  home in Daviess County last week after visiting here this past winter."    -

     This above is a strange note - it defies what we thought we knew about George's late life last move from Jackson Co, IN to Foster, Ohio in Warren County about 1891.   This would suggest that before he came to Ohio he moved to Daviess County which is just adjacent to Sullivan County ! - this may be why mention is made of Alfred's brothers Charles & Edward being at Sullivan County in the early 1890s.

    On that same visit I was most astounded to find a large painting at the museum which the staff there feel was with the museum for many years before they moved to their new building.    She at this time has no history on the painting by Ray Courtney - nor anything about the painter.    Near the bottom of the painting it reads (with some minor spelling modifications):    TITLE  " The Old Gibbs Hill"     Then under that reads:    As it was known then, the house of George Gibbs and family, they built in the 1850s of black walnut logs covered with yellow poplar siding.  The well was 50 feet deep thru limestone, good cold water.    He had every kind of fruit and berries that would grow in this climate.    At the time it was said to be the most beautiful place in this part of the state, especially when all the trees were in bloom.    The portion of the road shown at the time was the main route between Salem and Seymour.

 

Now, this last sentence about the road to Seymour from Salem, doesn't make a lot of sense as it would be quite a trip West and back East again coming from Salem to Seymour if the main road went past George's property, plus the fact that I have maps of 1860 & 78 that don't show that degree of main thoroughfare past the Gibbs property.     Neverthelss this was an amazing find for me -  apparently I'd passed it up before, because I'd been to the museum twice before.   On the same trip I visited an area I believe to be where this land was but it will require considerable more research to determine for sure.   I hope to do some searches with a metal detector to see if anything of historical value can be found there.

 

More About GEORGE * GIBBS:

Burial: Pollock (Ratt) Cem,. Washington Co, IN (w. 1st wife)

Event 1: October 5, 1862, leg shot off with a cannonball @ The Battle of Hatchie River

 

Notes for MARY * MATILDA CHAMBERS:

It has been very difficult to trace anything about Mary (CHAMBERS) GIBBS. - note most of the early information below, prior to 1999 was erroneous.

There is a Nathaniel Chambers Buried in the Walnut Ridge Cemetary in Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.IN; D:Feb 11, 1848, B: sometime in 1700s.

(one source says B: 1748, another 1762, another 1758-60.)  History of Washington Co. Text says Nathaniel arrived to Washington Co. in 1811 (page 692), but no other information about him is given.  Nathaniel is shown on the Washington Co. 1820 census as a farmer, he & wife over age 44 with children: 2 females 16-25, 1 male<10, & 1male 10-15. Mary should not have been born yet, and it would seem very unlikely to be her parents unless he had a 2nd wife by 8 yrs. later.

Cemetery notes say born c1748 that would seem unusually long longevity.  It also says he was husband of Mary.  That surely is not George Gibbs' 1st wife?  Needs more research to determine? Another source says she married George Gibbs in Feb 1846 instead of 1848.  If this was The same as Nathaniel's wife then she remarried immediately after Nathaniel died! if the 1848 marriage date is correct, making CHAMBERS her 1st married name and not her maiden name? Or was our Mary Matilda (CHAMBERS) GIBBS, Nathaniel's daughter, or Grandaughter??  The more likely possibility is that she was the Daughter of John CHAMBERS and Sarah "Sally" (BLANKENBAKER) CHAMBERS (he: b:April 4, 1788 d:Aug. 20,1866; She: b: June 1, 1793 d:Sept 1, 1856, and that also is likely that this John Chambers was a son of Nathaniel?  We do know that Nathaniel Chambers had the following children of he & at least one wife, Mary: John, William, Mary, Milly, Catherine, & James. John is shown on the 1820 census as a Farmer, with he & wife listed as being between 26-45,  &   children: 3 males<10, 2 females<10, 1 female 10-15. There is a John CHAMBERS shown owning a large piece of property on the 1860 platt map of Jefferson Twp. a few miles South,South East of G.Gibbs', and very close SE of L.Persinger's smaller piece of property ..but it is pure and simple speculation based on NO facts that our Mary Matilda was Johns daughter or even a relative of Nathaniels!  We do know for sure that she is buried next to George GIBBS in the Pollock Cemetary, in Washington Co., IN, as a letter from George's 2nd wife (Mary Logan) to George's son Oliver says that Will and Fred (Alfred) took Georges body back to lay with their Mother.  Mary LOGAN probably was buried & died in Ohio, somewhere near Cincinnati.

   The IL-IN early-1850 marriages shows a William H. CHAMBERS married an Elizabeth PERSINGER !! in Washington Co. on March 8, 1832.  There were 2 William Chambers' on the Washington Co. 1820 census Pages 201 & 208.  The first of these listed himself between 26-44 y.o., a presumed wife age 16-25, & children: 1 male & 1 female each < 10.  The 2nd Wm. (pg.208) listed himself between 26-44, a presumed wife 16-25, & children: 2 males<10.

   I believe I have already searched Obits. & death Cert. in Washington Co. on her and came up with nothing but I also could not find my notes saying that is so.  I will ask the Washington Co. Historical Museum for their help.   They have sent me materials on Nathaniel, that show him probably? being born in N.Carolina in 1762 and give the children's name I have given above & that he was a Revolutionary War soldier with the N.Carolina service, and that he died Feb 11, 1848.  Unfortunately they gave me two different stories of a Nathaniel another with children slightly different than those given above (Joshua is an addition the girls Mary, Milly, & Catherine, were not mentioned, but then it is likely that the male chauvanists back then would not necessarily include the females in the list), and it is likely that if Joshua died young, then he might not have been included in the other list. (These were also the two histories that listed different birthdates (1748 vs. 1762).

  My CD-ROM index for the 1860 census lists the following CHAMBERS in Washington Co., IN: Elihu, Page 168, Jefferson Twp.; Erwin G. Pg. 374, Monroe Twp.; James M. Pg. 254, Washington Twp.; John Pg.168, Jefferson Twp. & Sarah J. Pg. 168, Jefferson Twp.; However 1860 is probably too late to expect these to be her parents, possibly sibs?

Also CD-228 shows Washington Co. Marriage of Catherine CHAMBERS to Richard DALY July 12,1822.. could she be a sister or widowed Mother of Mary Matilda?

  To summarize the 4 Chambers' families in the County according to the 1820 census: Nathaniel, age>44, 2 named William both between ages 26-44, & John, age 26-44.  They all had presumed children & wifes then (see body of notes above.

 

  JULY 1999,  Philis Ballew has sent me what I believe to be an important NEW finding.   It is a piece of paper (see "clues from O.G. Gibbs in scrapbook here for Mary Matilda) that has some mention of her Grandmother Algie Gibb's ancestors, but the other words relate to her Grandfather Oliver Grant Gibbs suggesting names of Mary Matilda Chambers' parents as John & Isabella CHAMBER (w/o an "S"), but then under that has the word CHAMBERLAIN... ??   So we could be looking for her parents as CHAMBERLAIN, CHAMBERLIN, CHAMBERLAND, CHAMBER or as we thought we knew her as CHAMBERS.     It further has a location for John & Isabella as Vernon, Ohio.   I've found 2 Vernon cities in OH.   One in Trumball Co., just South of Lake Erie, near the Northern Pennsylvania border and another in Lawrence Co, quite a ways East of Cincinnati and finally a Mount Vernon in Knox Co.   I guess I would lean more toward Lawrence Co because of it's proximity to Cincinnatti, where we've been told George lived before moving to Washington Co.  but the one in the NE corner of Ohio would also be on the path from NY.    Thus neither of these seem to have a stronger likelihood than the other.   Thus far, I've found no evidence of either family name in either county.

     Fall 1999 - most of the above on Chambers in Washington Co. has been negated by pursuing the clue Philis Ballew offered as Mary Matilda and her siblings and mother are found conclusively in Knox Co, OH.   At least Mary Matilda was not with them as she had just married in Cincinnati - discovered at the Episcopaleon church there in 1848.   Mary is found with those same siblings and mother Isabelle on a ship record - see all this outlined in the information listed under notes for Isabelle.   As of Fall of 2000 we still haven't found the first name of Isabelle's husband  (Mary Matilda's father).

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   2001- Gary Hines has sent us confirmation of Isabella's maiden name (BATEY - but I believe probably BEATTY in Ireland) - and her husband's 1st name William.   This is discussed in detail under Mary Matilda's Mother, Isabella.

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This is a source for data on early activity at the Christ Church Cathedral 1818-1938 Cincinnati LDS (Mormon) Family History Center Microfilm 1955202

 

The date of February 5th, 1848 was obtained thru an Email contact of someone who searched that out for me - however in June 2002, the Christ Church archivist wrote me that she has confirmed the actual date as February 5, 1847.    This is confusing to me not only the fact that we have two dates exactly one year apart - but we have some evidence showing George was in Mexico at war during the late 1846 thru early 1847 period.   I need to find an explanation for why there are two dates discovered.   

                                                      

 

More About MARY * MATILDA CHAMBERS:

Burial: Pollock (Ratt) Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN

Event 1: another source says born 1827 in

Event 2: another source says born @ Frermanah, Ire.

 

Notes for MARY LOUISA LOGAN:

I've always been suspicious that Mary Louisa was married before she married George June 14, 1884 - and that Ralph may have been a son of her first husband.   She married George at about age 38 & George was then 59 - very unusual for a 1st marriage back then to be 38.    The census indexes below may show us - and it does appear that Mary remained single til her marriage to George - and that LOGAN is her true maiden name.

 

1813 Tax list of Franklin Co, Indiana

  LOGAN, John

  LOGAN, William

 

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1817 Tax list of Brookville Twp, Franklin Co, IN - only one Logan:

  LOGAN,  Aquilla

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1828 Tax List of Fairfield Twp, Franklin Co., IN

  LOGAN, David

  LOGAN, William

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1830 Franklin Co, Indiana Census:

 

  Logan, Benjamin M.  Pg. 294

  Logan, David                    295

  Logan, Mary                     294                                                       

  Logan, Samuel                 294                                                          l

  Logan, William                 293                                                                                  

  Logan, William, Sr.          294                                                      

                                                                      

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1834 Franklin Co, Fairfield Twp, Tax List

  LOGAN, David

  LOGAN, William C

  LOGAN, William

 

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1850 Franklin Co, IN Census:

 

   LOGAN, David              BROOKVILLE TWP     #  291

   LOGAN, David              FAIRFIELD TWP         #  186

   LOGAN, James             FAIRFIELD TWP        #  179   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  Mary Louisa's Father

   LOGAN, Jane                FAIRFIELD TWP        #  181

   LOGAN, Jefferson         FAIRFIELD TWP        #  185

   LOGAN, Samuel            BROOKVILLE TWP    #  291

   LOGAN, Thomas           FAIRFIELD TWP        #  181

   LOGAN, William            BROOKVILLE TWP    #  291

   LOGAN, C Raig              FAIRFIELD TWP       #  187

   LOGAN, Calura              BROOKVILLE TWP   #  291

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1860 Census, Franklin Co. Census

  LOGAN             D. O.                  # 192     T: BROOKVILLE TWP. 

  LOGAN             DAVID                # 290     T: FAIRFIELD TWP.      

  LOGAN             DELILA              # 192     T: BROOKVILLE TWP.  

  LOGAN             ELIZABETH       # 192     T: BROOKVILLE TWP.  

  LOGAN             JAMES               # 306     T: FAIRFIELD TWP.    <<<<<<<<<<<<<  Mary Louisa's Father

  LOGAN             JEFFERSON J.   # 294    T: FAIRFIELD TWP.     

  LOGAN             JOHN                 # 303     T: FAIRFIELD TWP.    

  LOGAN             MARIAH             # 290     T: FAIRFIELD TWP.    

  LOGAN             THOMAS            # 298     T: FAIRFIELD TWP.   

  LOGAN             WILLIAM            # 353     T: POSEY TWP.        

  LOGAN             WILLIAM            # 290     T: FAIRFIELD TWP.  

  LOGER             HENRY              # 063     T: BUTLER TWP.     

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1870 Census, Franklin Co.

 

  LOGAN , DAVID ,74, M , W , SC , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,322

  LOGAN , ELIZABETH ,57, F , W , MD , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,320  <<<<<<<<< Mary Louis's widowed Mother.

  LOGAN , FLORENTINE ,34, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,320  <<<<<< this is actually Mary Louisa's older brother, James Florentine LOGAN

  LOGAN , JAMES ,49, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , BROOKVILLE TWP ,315,253          <<<<<<<  ? probably a cousin

  LOGAN , JAMES ,44, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,322              <<<<<<<  ? probably a cousin

  LOGAN , OLIVER ,39, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , BLOOMING GROVE TWP ,315,243

  LOGAN , THOMAS ,62, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,320

  LOGAN , THOMAS ,34, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,325

  LOGAN , WILLIAM ,39, M , W , IN , FRANKLIN , FAIRFIELD TWP ,315,325

 

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November 2001

Heather Logan has sent me this transcript and she believes our Mary is the daughter of James LOGAN & Elizabeth COLESCOTT

Franklin County Marriage Transcript Records

 

       Name                       Parents        Sex/Race    Age Date of Marriage

       Book/Page

 

       Gibbs George    Alfred ? Gibson    M   W         59    6/14/1884 -  1 62

 

       Logan Mary      James -- Logan      F   W         38    6/14/1884 -  1 62

 

More About MARY LOUISA LOGAN:

Burial: Maple Grove Cem., Franklin Co, IN- per Jack Arbino

       

Children of GEORGE GIBBS and MARY CHAMBERS are:

                   i.    AL"FRED" * PAGE (2)4 GIBBS, b. December 4, 1848, Cincinnati, Ohio (or one source says Knox Co, OH); d. December 28, 1913, Shattuck (Ellis County), OK.; see Notes & Scrapbook; m. (1) EMILY HARRIETT * PERSINGER, January 24, 1870, Washington Co, Indiana - Buffalo, IN - H 224; b. July 30, 1849, Washington Co., IN-may have gone by "Emma"; d. November 23, 1885, Washington Co, IN; m. (2) ELIZABETH CORA JOHNSON, March 1, 1888, each of their 2nd marriages-J 522-at her Father's home; b. July 17, 1857, Indiana, as were her parents; died age 58; may be 1856; d. February 24, 1915, Sullivan County, IN; see "More" -confusing hx.

 

Notes for AL"FRED" * PAGE (2) GIBBS:

Alfred Page GIBBS is listed in the 1880 census, living in Washington Co. IN with wife Emma H. & children Clarence W., Arthur A., & Annie M. (1 y.o.).  The 1900 census shows the family in Sullivan, IN and wife then Cora E.=B: July 1857 which corellates exactly as to what we know about Louis Wm. PERSINGER's wife except that on the 1880 census, his wife was listed as Elizabeth C.!  I assume this is the same person but it is difficult to be sure.  In 1900 the children living with them were his sons James & Alva, his stepsons Clarence & Asa Persinger (of Cora E.+L.W. Persinger), & daughter Grace (my Grandmother).  Asa (spelling?) is listed as a dentist @ age 20! & should have been born of Elizabeth C. PERSINGER. Alva must have been the only surviving child born of these two parents (2 girls died in infancy) since he is listed as born in 1893.  James & Grace's Mother was the late Emma H. PERSINGER.  As yet I have not discovered where Alfred, & Cora E.  are buried, but Malcolm insists that his mother took him to the Center Ridge Cemetary in Sullivan because that is where she claimed the step-Father &/or Mother was buried; however he vaguely recalls they could not find the grave.  Alfred is also listed in the 1860 census in Washington Co. IN & says was born in Ohio which is consistent with other records; however that census says he was born in 1849 not 1848.  Since George allegedly was in Cincinnati I suspect this is Alfred's birthplace.  Beatrice (GIBBS) SUTTER says she thinks Alfred had TB and went to live his final days in Oklahoma with Oliver Gibbs & family and is likely buried there, probably near the town of Knowles or Shattuck.  Also he may have been in town of Elmwood, near Knowles or I have discovered an Obituary that says he died in Shattuck, OK which is in the next County to the East.  I doubt that Alfred was buried in Indiana but it is likely that both of his wives are. 

  Oct. 1992 - I have now located Emma's grave @ Walnut Ridge Cem. (Jefferson Twp. Washington Co.) (next to the grave of her brother Louis William Persinger); Interestingly the tall monument clearly has her name with the B&D dates but also has Alfred's name with no dates.  At the top of the monument is carved "OUR PARENTS".  I am certain that Alfred is not buried there.  I have found an obituary from the Salem Republican Leader Jan 9, 1914 which erroneously states he died when he was visiting his SON? O.G. Gibbs in Shattuck, OK. (Oliver G. was his brother not son) It also gives the birth year as 1844!  It also says his surviving 2nd wife is the daugh. of the late John Johnson of Jefferson Twp. who it says survived him. Funeral services were conducted in Shattuck, OK by Rev. W.F. Ribelin "an old friend of the deceased".  This is the 1st evidence suggesting the maiden name (JOHNSON) and heritage of his 2nd wife (presumably Louis Wm. Persinger's only wife)....but it would have to be questioned, if for no other reason then the fact that there were so many KNOWN errors in the obituary report (I wonder who supplied that information to the paper?)  I hope to visit Shattuck and the adjacent Beaver Co., OK soon.  Unfortunately there were at least 2 different John Johnson's in Washington Co. in that era and I'm having difficulty determining more details about Elizabeth Cora Gibbs-Persinger. (see PgDn on her name).

    July 1994 - Just visited Shattuck, Oklahoma & talked with Phillis Ballew, Grandaughter of Oliver Grant Gibbs.  She showed me the area of Oliver's home they have renovated where Alfred died.  Also she has many letters written about the time Alfred died...From George Gibbs' daughter Nellie and from Arthur Anthony Gibbs.  This letter suggests that Cora Elizabeth & Alfred P. were living in the Lathrop, MO area near or with Arthur Anthony Gibbs and then had been living in Topeka, Kansas in 1913 before Alfred spent some time in Oklahoma visiting between son James Gibbs in nearby Beaver County and with Alfred's brother Oliver.  It now is certain (according to the City Clerk who shows Alfred buried in the Odd Fellows/Shattuck Cemetary next to Oliver & family who all died much later....but there is no stone or any kind of marker at the gravesite, which probably relates to the fact that none of them had any money in that era, although I suspect later Oliver did gain a much better income (he died 40 years after his older brother Alfred).  So it appears that Cora & Alfred were both buried without a gravestone headmarker, but in different states.  I have later discovered that I now have 2 photos of Alfred, the 2nd one is with a wife a child of approximately one year of age.  I don't know which wife that is, but she looks very much like the photos of the first one which is Emma Harriet Persinger (my ancestor).  I might be able to determine this by researching the date the listed photographer was in business in Salem, IN.   I was not allowed to photocopy Alfred's Obit in Shattuck OK.  The pages were so faint they were barely legible and the staff at the historical center were fearful about anyone damaging it further.  So, I wrote it out in my own handwriting.:   From the Stattuck Monitor, Jan. 1, 1914.  - Alfred Gibbs, A brother of O.G. Gibbs, west of town who had been ill but a couple of weeks died at the home of his brother Sunday morning.  Remains were interred at the Odd Fellows Cemetery.  Funeral services were conducted by Rev. Frank Ribelin.

 

 

1900 -Sullivan Co, IN census page on the scrapbook.   He was in the city of Sullivan, Sullivan Co, IN - Enumeration District 130, Sheet 10, Line 24. -

              it reads:

        Gibbs,  Alfred P.   head -      Dec. 1849, 50, born Ohio,  Father born England, Mother in Ireland

                    Cora E.     wife   -      July 1856, 43,    Indiana           Indiana                 Indiana 

                    James      Son   -      Oct. 1881, 18     Indiana            Ohio                     Indiana

   Persinger, Clarence, St-Son      Mar. 1882 18    Indiana            Indiana                 Indiana

                     Asa          St.-Son     Feb. 1880  20    Indiana           Indiana                 Indiana

        Gibbs,  Grace     daughter    Aug. 1884  15    Indiana           Ohio                      Indiana

                     Alva          son         Mar. 1893    7    Indiana           Ohio                      Indiana

    

1910 -Still in the city of Sullivan, IN -sheet 18A/173, Enumeration District 172, City Ward 1, age 61, Laborer, with wife, Elizabeth C. age 53 & Alvy G. age 17 - he was the only child living with them then.

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August 2002:   Newspaper clippings from Salem, Indiana newspaper finally have given the answer as to when Alfred P. "Fred" Gibbs moved from Washington Co, to Sullivan County, IN >> in early April 1897.   Below is a list of several newspaper briefs mentioning Alfred from the Salem Republic-Leader Newspaper:

 

Jan. 6, 1888:  Frank Gibbs & wife of Kentucky are spending the week with A.P. Gibbs of this place (ed.-Oak Grove- is Frank his                          brother John Francis ?- mag)

Jan. 20, 1888:  A.P. Gibbs came near having a serious runaway this week.   While holding his little girl in his arms his horse                            became frightened and  started to run, dragging Mr. Gibbs quite a distance.  (ed.- Grace would have been 3 1/2                            then and Anna 9 1/2 yrs. old - probably Grace? - ag)

Mar. 9, 1888:   Married March 1 at the residence of John Johnson, Sr.  were A.P. Gibbs and Mrs. Lizzie Persinger.   A.P. Gibbs will                             shortly move to his Father's farm.    Lucy Gibbs of Seymour came down Thursday to attend the wedding of her                             brother accompanied by Miss Anna Myers.

Mar. 30, 1888:   A.P. Gibbs has moved to his Father's farm.

June 8, 1888:     A.P. Gibbs bought his Father's farm and sold 50 Acres to John Johnson.  (ed. - John Johnson was is new wife's Father - mag).

Aug. 31, 1888:   A.P. Gibbs' team ran away Tuesday breaking his wagon and slightly crippling one horse.

May 31, 1889:   A. P.  Gibbs'  family have measles.

Aug. 30, 1889:   A.P. Gibbs will take a trip to Kentucky shortly.

May 9,  1890:    A.P. Gibbs had two horses supposed to be poisoned.   One of them died and the other is thought will die.

June 13, 1890:   A.P. Gibbs was circulating a petition last week to let stock run at large.

Dec. 12, 1890:   Edward Gibbs of Sullivan County is visiting his brother A.P. Gibbs for a few days  (could this be James E. Gibbs ?).

Mar. 10, 1893:   Born March 1st to A.P. Gibbs and wife, a son.

July 14, 1893:   A  Mr. Chambers of Kentucky is visiting A. P. Gibbs.

Aug. 25, 1893:   A.P. Gibbs is shipping Peaches to Seymour.

 

Nov. 10, 1893:   A.P. Gibbs and wife returned Saturday from a ten days visit at the World's Fair, and in Northwestern Illinois where                               they were visiting Mrs. Gibbs' brother, M.L. Johnson.

Feb. 2, 1894:     A. P. Gibbs and Company are putting up ice this week.

Aug. 24, 1894:   Arthur and Anna Gibbs visited their uncle O.G. Gibbs at Freetown last week.

Aug. 31, 1894:   A. P. Gibbs, A.J. Lee & George Booker received the contract for building the gravel road north of Sparksville.

Sept. 14, 1894:  A.P. Gibbs has gone to Jackson County with a force of hands to build gravel roads.

Sept. 27, 1895:  A.P. Gibbs went to Ohio last Friday to see his brother Charley who is dangerously ill

May 15, 1896:   A. P. Gibbs has two teams hauling on the Millport Gravel Road.

Sept. 11, 1896:  A.P. Gibbs returned last Saturday from a visit to Daviess & Sullivan County.

Sept. 11, 1896:  Charles Gibbs of Sullivan County, Indiana is visiting his brother, A.P. Gibbs.   It is reported that A.P. Gibbs will                              move to Sullivan Indiana next spring.

April 16, 1897:   A.P. Gibbs moved to Sullivan County, Indiana last week.

 

 

 

 

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More About AL"FRED" * PAGE (2) GIBBS:

Burial: Odd Fellows Cem., Shattuck, OK - unmarked grave

Event 1: Obituary says died in town of Shattuck, OK

Event 2: which is in Ellis Co.

 

Notes for EMILY HARRIETT * PERSINGER:

After She died in 1885 (At age 36!, I have always presumed this was likely from childbirth of another child that died but I can find no evidence of this - her daughter Grace Gertrude Gibbs was only 18 months old when her Mother died) then Alfred P. Gibbs remarried 2.5 years later to one of Emma's Brother's widows (Elizabeth C.) Apparently Elizabeth & Emma's Brother, William L. PERSINGER  had children making Grace & her sibs not only cousins but later raised as 1/2 sibs with the other family.  Apparently Grace only knew her step mother who was also her Aunt as her only Mother due to her real Mother's early death @ age 36.  Mrs Lewis (Alice) Smiley & I believe that Olive Persinger Dennis of Mt Pleasant MI & Malcolm Persinger of Rockville IN are descendents of Elizabeth C. & one of Emma's brothers, William L.

     I am now writing with new evidence (see Alfred's notes also) It is certain now that Alfred's 2nd wife was Elizabeth C(ora). who was previously married to Emmas' brother Louis.  Louis died at age 30. I have still been unable to determine where Elizabeth died and buried but Alfred's obit. states he was survived by his wife and since he died in Oklahoma I think it is likely that she did also, but after 1913.    The records in Sullivan Co, show Cora Elizabeth GIBBS died in Sullivan and is buried at Center Ridge Cem, but the gravestone is not present in the cemetery, so I assume she had a pauper's burial as did her 2nd husband, Alfred P. GIBBS.    Neither have gravestones.

 

 

More About EMILY HARRIETT * PERSINGER:

Burial: Walnut Ridge Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN

 

Notes for ELIZABETH CORA JOHNSON:

Many confusing things about this lady - the facts are sketchy- most of it culled from death records and census', since those who I believe are her grandchildren, seem to have no knowledge of her or their GrandFather Louis Persinger.  (Malcolm Persinger in Mecca, IN & Olive Dennis in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan, and Chester in Terre Haute, IN). The Death record index book in the Sullivan County Library shows her Birth & death date as shown here & apparently died in Sullivan Co.  However the index of Deaths there refers me to the County Public Health building which I visited in May, 1994.  This book is not copyable, the info was read to me by a clerk there from Book CH-16, page 6.  It says she was the daughter of John Johnson (born in Indiana as was Elizabeth Cora.) & that she died of T.B. (which we think is what killed her 2nd husband, (my Dad's GrandFather) Alfred Gibbs 2 years earlier.  It is not clear, but is likely that Her father - John Johnson is also the 2nd husband of Alfred Persinger's wife (Mary Ann Abbott Persinger-Johnson).  He was from the Washington County area also.   Alfred Gibbs' obituary from Shattuck, Oklahoma does imply that his wife was living at the time of his death, so I presume she was out in Oklahoma with him in 1913?  Now the biggest dilemma regarding Cora is that the death record in Book CH-16 says she was buried in Center Ridge Cemetary in Sullivan (as are most of my Griffith ancestors), but most of the cemetary records were destroyed by fire, and I have traipsed all over that cemetary and could not find evidence she is there, also none of the 5 volume cemetary books in the Sullivan county library show her being buried in Sullivan County!....So was she simply buried as a pauper with no stone? or was the death record book written wrong? ... perhaps at the last minute her son Clarence had her buried elsewhere ... (he and wife Farie were later buried at Palestine, IL...I will sometime try to research that possibility)  Malcolm Persinger seemed to vaguely recall visiting a Grandmother's grave in Sullivan.  We do Know that an Elizabeth C. Persinger was listed in the 1880 Washington County Census living with L.W. Persinger in Ewing (tiny town West of Brownstown), Indiana with children Heubert (age 1), and Asa C. (Carl - age 3 months - the dentist) and L.W.'s brother Amos W. (other son Louis Clarence was born 2 years later).  According to these records its sad to note that Louis William Persinger died while Elizabeth Cora was pregnant with his son Louis Clarence.  (L.W. died October 1881, and Clarence was born in March 1882)- That explains why Clarence's children whom I have spoken to know nothing about their GrandFather Louis William Persinger. (although I would have thought that Clarence would have passed down some information about his Mother Elizabeth Cora, since he was living in the area and was 32 years old when his Mother died.????  It appears from the fact that the 2 daughters that Alfred Gibbs & Elizabeth had together died in infancy and were both buried in Washington County in 1892; then the couple must not have moved to Sullivan County until after 1892.  Note that they are listed as living together in Sullivan in the 1900 census. (See also PgDn notes on Alfred Page Gibbs' & Louis W. Persinger)  I recall Malcolm remembering his Father Chester telling him that Chester didn't like living with those Gibbs', which of course is common with step-children, so I would presume it likely that he didn't see his Mother much after he was old enough to leave the household & therefore may not have been close to his Mother in order to avoid his Step-Father Alfred Gibbs??  I have been sent a letter by the head genealogist at the Sullivan Library; she feels certain that Elizabeth Cora is buried @ Center Ridge Cemetary  without a Headstone, presumably for lack of family money to pay for one.

July 94, I took a trip to Shattuck, Oklhoma.  While there I do believe I established with certainty that Alfred P. Gibbs died there in his Brother Olivers home and was buried there (Also with no headstone) in the same lot next his are his wife Algie and their two children.  There was much to be learned from Mrs. Phillis Ballew (now living in Shattuck) who has kept letters written to her paternal Grandparents (Oliver G. Gibbs and Algie Tucker Gibbs) from many of the Gibbs klan.  Apparently Alfred (they called him Fred....also a new revelation discovered while in OK) did die in Olivers house - see Alfreds details for more.  Alfred's son Arthur Anthony Gibbs (from Lathrop, MO) wrote in telegrams within a week before Alfred died that He has sent telegrams to Cora to get her to come to Alfreds deathbed but that she stated she was also in ill health and therefore unable to come to Shattuck.  Apparently she and Alfred had then been living in Topeka, Kansas.  Cora was working for a Mrs. E.C. Winters at the Progressive oil Company in Topeka.  Arthur also states that he has tried to get hold of Alva and makes derogatory suspicions about Alva using up his parents money.  Another interesting commentary comes from a letter (1918 from Cincinnati, OH) written by Oliver's half sister Nellie Gibbs Burks to Oliver asking "Where was Cora after Fred's death, before she died?" "Was she with you or some of the children?"  Too bad I don't have the answer to that letter.  As of 2000, I had no information as to the whereabouts or names of any descendents of Nellie or her brother Ralph Gibbs, but they might be a good resource to search for (did locate them in 2001).  Phillis also had a photo of Alfed P. & Cora holding a child (may be Alva or one of the girls that died very young).    Elizabeth, age 3 can be found on the 1860 census of Washington Co, Indiana with parents John Johnson & Susan M. (ages 35 & 27 resp), and siblings Nancy Ann 7, Lloyd 5,  Lafayette 2, and living in the same household was hired farm laborer, Hiatt POLLOCK.   This family is living next door to Isaiah Persinger, age 27 & wife, Juliann 24 & children Cornelius 5, James Franklin 4, & Betsey 2 months.    Even though this Elizabeth is not my direct ancestor, she certainly enters in the family  history heavily having first married into the Persingers and then my own Gibbs line - AND was the only Mother my Grandmother Grace ever really knew, since Cora Elizabeth would have raised Grace from a small child - her Father married Cora Elizabeth when my GM Grace was only 3 1/2 yrs. old.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

More About ELIZABETH CORA JOHNSON:

Burial: Center Ridge Cem. -Sullivan, IN -unmarked grave?

 

                  ii.    WILLIAM GEORGE GIBBS, b. April 4, 1851, Ohio; lived @ Newman, IL- Douglas Co. 1910-21; d. March 6, 1928, Indianapolis, Indiana- Robert Long Hosp.-Lip Carcinoma; m. (1) LOUISA JOHNSON, August 7, 1874, Washington Co, IN -this is Wm's 1st wife-H 629; b. May 30, 1851, Indiana - this is William's 1st wife, she died age 27; d. October 17, 1878, Washington Co, IN; m. (2) LUCINDA JOHNSON, September 17, 1881, Jackson Co, IN; H439 - WPA 09276; b. March 1848, Indiana - or 1847?- 1848 per 1900 cen.- Wm's 2nd wife; d. Aft. 1928, did she go to live with daughter, Cora after 1928.

 

Notes for WILLIAM GEORGE GIBBS:

I first became more interested in William George Gibbs when I saw a letter written by other Gibbs cousins that Philis Ballew had - that mentioned William was living in Newman, IL.   Sure enough William is on the 1910 & 1920 Douglas County census living in the city of Newman.   Also in 1920 living within a block is George Henry Gibbs, who is almost certainly William's oldest child.   George is 44 years old in 1920, and living with a wife, Eva and two daughters Edith & Lois and one son, Paul W. Gibbs.    Also, I had a note typed by some uknown cousin that showed William & George's birth & death dates - but didn't clearly show them as father and son, but had them in a group suggesting that.   It also showed a daughter, Cora and her birthdate- and then a woman, Eva Swank listed as Cora's daughter.

1860 census - Page 156B/78 - Washington Co, IN - only census that shows William's middle name is George, age 9.

1870 Census - Page 77B, Washington Co, IN - William living with all his sibs including soon to be married Alfred.

1880 census - Washington Co, IN - page 439 B - William, recently widowed, age 29 is living with siblings and parents George & Mary M. - Here George claims  he is born in NY- in contradiction to other reports that he was born in England.   William stays consistent with his father's inconsistent birth places then, but is correct as is Mary Matilda about her and her parents being born in Ireland.   What I cannot understand here is WHY is his son, George Henry from his first marriage not shown here -? George Henry should be 5 years old there and presumably William has moved back with his parents before he married Louisa's sister, Lucinda a few years later - but I cannot figure out why George Henry is not shown.   Perhaps the census taker got confused, or Geo. Henry was staying with other caretakers.    The 1880 census shows Henry Johnson with 5 of his children living with he and Nancy - including Lucinda (page 441A, Washington Co, Jefferson Twp) but George Henry is not with them either.

1900 census - all 4 in family living at Sullivan Co, IN, Turman Twp, Census sheet 9A, Enumeration Dist. 137.   William is shown as age 49 and occupation as                           Farm Labor.  He lists he and his parents correct BPs as Ohio, England & Ireland - but for some reason Cora & Lucinda are shown born in                          KANSAS ?

1910 census: city of Newman - page 263, Douglas Co, - shows William age 58 (no middle name or initial) shows him born in Ohio and father born in England                          but the mothers birthplace is illegible.

1920 census: city of Newman - page 4B, Douglas Co- shows William, age 68 (but no middle initial or name) shows he born in Ohio)  BUT  both parents born in Ohio (obviously wrong and also contradicting what he said a decade before) - by 1920 he was only living with Lucinda - but his son George Henry is living also in Newman on the 1920 census - page 3B very near his parents. - George then has his 3 children with he and Eva - Edith age 14, Lois 12, & Paul W. 3+.

George & his Father William are listed as giving a $1.00 & $2.00 donation in 1921/22 to a church in Newman - the 1st Methodist Episcopal Church.

Nov. 29, 2000 - I believe I have finally located a descendant of this line - from William's Grandaughter, Edith.   That is Bob Lynn of Anchorage, Alaska - we are exchanging information as there are some differences of opinion as to George Henry's parents - but I believe the fact George on the 1920 census reports his father is born in Ohio makes it very likely we can connect to the William G. that I know is son of George, the immigrant -England> Cincinnati, Ohio> Washington Co, IN > Seymour, IN> Warren Co, OH.   Plus the fact that in 1910, William is in the city of Newman and says his father is from England and he himself is from Ohio.   I suppose the William in 1910 could be a different William Gibbs than is there in 1920, but the ages are consistent - but the parents birthplaces are not.   I did get a marriage certificate for both of William's children, George GIBBS to Eva McQUEEN, March 3, 1903 and  Cora B. GIBBS  to  George W. SWANK, July  21, 1903 > both of his children married within 3 months and both in Douglas County.    Cora was married in Tuscola and William in Murdock, IL.   Both marriages show the Father as William GIBBS and the mother as Lou JOHNSON on Cora's and Lucinda JOHNSON on George's - of course Lucinda was assuming the role of mother for both of them although she was not actually William's genetic Mother.    On that same trip I found a birth certificate showing George's oldest daughter, Edith Gertrude GIBBS - which shows Father as George Henry GIBBS- then adds he born in Washington Co, IN ! - wish I could find him on the 1880 census - since he just isn't with William that year. 

 

January 2001 - I finally discovered where William died - his Death Certificate was obtained at the Indiana St. Board of Public Health.   It has at least a few errors and one major surprise - not yet proven however.   He did die on the exact date shown in my handed down papers, March 6, 1928.   Died at the Robert Long Hospital in Indianapolis - this hospital no longer exists but was on the Indiana Univ. Medical School Campus in the earlier 1900s.   He died of Carcinoma of Lip (I bet he chewed tobacco ! ) -  His wife is listed correctly as Lucinda.   His father's BP is correctly shown as England - but the reporters after his death gave William instead of George as the Father's name.   And listed William's Mother as unknown and her BP as Ohio.   Although Mary Matilda did spend her teenage years in Ohio, she certainly was born in Ireland.   His occupation is listed as "Expressman or Drayman" - same as earlier census reports.   The real surprise was where the body was supposedly sent for burial -  Shown clearly as   Pollock Cem. - Washington Co. !! -  Maybe but even though Will's first wife, Louisa and both his parents certainly are buried there - there is no evidence his body made it there.    I wonder if the descendants elected not to go to the trouble of sending him back there?    It is likely he is there in an unmarked paupers grave.    Will need to get records from Washington Co, - hopefully they'll have an obituary and possibly public burial records.    The reporter's name for the Death Certificate is left blank, but it implies they lived at RR #C, 823 Holt Road, Indianapolis - I presume that was George Henry's address.

 

More About WILLIAM GEORGE GIBBS:

Burial: Pollock Cem. - per the death Cert.? stone not found there.

 

More About LOUISA JOHNSON:

Burial: Pollock (Ratt) Cem.

 

Notes for LUCINDA JOHNSON:

Lucinda is on the 1850, 60, 70 & 80  census of jefferson Twp, Washington Co, with parents Henry & Nancy Johnson.   On the 1870 census they are on the same census page as Lucinda & her sister Louisa's future husband William G. Gibbs, then living with his parents, George & Mary Matilda.    Wm. 1st married the younger sister, Louisa and she died soon after their child George H. and then it appears Wm. married Louisa's older sister, Lucinda, with whom he was still living in 1920.   (they were living together on the 1910 & 1920 census in the city of Newman, IL- Douglas co.).    I would like to find out where they died to get an obit and find descendants but as of Oct. 2000 have been unsuccessful.    Louisa is shown living with her sister, Lucinda 3 years older in 1860 & 1870.    Louisa was not born by the 1850 census and was dead before the 1880 census - both of which Lucinda is on.

 

More About LUCINDA JOHNSON:

Burial: She lists age as 63 on 1910 census in Newman Twp.

 

                 iii.    CLARENCE GIBBS, b. November 14, 1853; d. October 22, 1855, Buried at Pollock Cem, Washington Co, IN-less than 2yr..

                 iv.    JOHN FRANCIS GIBBS, b. 1857, Indiana - may have been born 1856; d. 1888, KY? - did he go by Frank ?.

 

Notes for JOHN FRANCIS GIBBS:

I've found 3 newsclippings - see brother Alfred's notes - that suggest Fred's brother, Frank was in Kentucky with a wife in the 1880s and died in late July or very early August 1888.  - "Aug. 3, 1888:  Word received this day that Frank Gibbs a former resident of this place (Oak Grove) was killed Saturday in Kentucky by a falling tree."   We know that George's son, John F. was on the 1880 census  in Washington Co, with George, age 23 then.   Don't know if married in KY or IN ?  Will be very difficult to figure out where John F. was in KY or if Frank is in fact John Francis, as I suspect - since he wasn't in KY in 1880 and died in 1888.   Won't be on any KY census and if spent less than 8 yrs. there, probably didn't leave much of any history behind.

 

a John R. Gibbs mg 9-11-1875 in Jackson Co, IN- I doubt there is a connection to our line ?

 

More About JOHN FRANCIS GIBBS:

Burial: he was 23 y.o. still living with parents in 1880

 

                  v.    MARY "MAGGIE" BELLE GIBBS, b. 1858, Indiana; also went by "Belle" - census show Mary B.; d. December 1905, lived in Colorado Springs- was there by 1889; m. HERBERT ISAIAH REID, April 24, 1884, Washington Co, IN - J 214; b. June 7, 1859, Father probably Isaiah & Mother prob. Hannah LUSK; d. December 6, 1941.

 

More About MARY "MAGGIE" BELLE GIBBS:

Burial: December 28, 1905, Evergreen Cem. - Colorado Springs - Lot #T-011

 

Notes for HERBERT ISAIAH REID:

"Despite the threat of T.B. which eventually caused him to live permanently in Colorado Springs, he became a civil engineer;

was associated with Gen. Wm. Palmer, Winfield Scott Stratton and Spencer Penrose. He was city engineer for fifteen years, was engineer of the Colorado Springs Water System;  constructed the wagon road leading up to Pike's Peak.   Herbert Reid died Dec. 6,1941 from auto injuries." from a copy of a manuscript 'The Reid Line' written by Harriett Morris of Washington Co.,IN and a grand-daughter of Samuel Reid s/o Isaiah #1.

 

More About HERBERT ISAIAH REID:

Burial: December 9, 1941, Evergreen Cem. - Colorado Springs

 

                 vi.    LUCY GIBBS, b. March 28, 1861, never married; d. January 13, 1889, Colorado Springs, CO (While visiting sister Mary Reid).

 

Notes for LUCY GIBBS:

There is a Lucy Gibbs listed in the 1880 census living in the city of Seymour, IN; it states she is 27 y.o. & widowed, living with 2 children:

Eliza (or Elva), 12 y.o. & Frederick, 9 y.o. This age and name fits but nothing else could be traced.  It does however add confusion as to her and/or our heritage in that it states her Father was from Michigan & her mother from Indiana.  According to our records, her Father should be shown from England? & Her Mother from Ireland?  Probably a different Lucy GIBBS ?

There is an obituary for our Lucy Gibbs in the Salem Republican Leader - Jan. 25, 1889:

"Miss Lucy Gibbs, Daughter of George Gibbs, of Seymour and a sister of A. P. Gibbs of this County, died at Colorado Springs, Colorado, Jan 13th.  Miss Gibbs had gone to Colorado to visit her sister, Mrs. H.I. Reid and had been there about four months. 

 

 

More About LUCY GIBBS:

Burial: Evergreen Cem. - Colorado Springs, CO - lot # T011

Event 1: 1880, there is a Lucy Gibbs (widowed) in census

Event 2: Jackson Co., city of Seymour 27 y.o.

 

                vii.    NANCY GIBBS, b. 1863, She is with the family on the 1870 census - Page 77B.

               viii.    OLIVER GRANT GIBBS, b. May 4, 1865, Washington Co., IN; moved from IN in 1902; d. December 20, 1953, Shattuck, Oklahoma (Shattuck Hospital) at 89 yrs.; m. ALGENETTE HAZELTINE TUCKER, May 25, 1893, New Philadelphia, Indiana; b. September 18, 1867, raised in New Philadelphia, IN; d. March 15, 1954, Shattuck, OK.

 

Notes for OLIVER GRANT GIBBS:

Oliver, known in Shattuck, Oklahoma as O.G. spent much of his time in Oklahoma on lands he built up on the Northwest side of town.  All of my knowledge of him comes from his Grandaughter Phillis Ballew who I met in July 94 in Shattuck.  She has written a beautiful short story of the family and the childrens hard life on the farm and ranch; it is titled:  "From Schoolroom to Plumb Thicket".     Philis was also the source of the death information on Oliver's older brother Alfred Page.   Philis told me the story that she has always remembered her Grandfather telling her when pointing to one corner of the room in the house she now lives in - "that is where my brother died when he was visiting me".   Philis had old telegrams which I've got and are from Arthur Anthony Gibbs, Oliver's nephew discussing the imminent death of Alfred and how to deal with the body, etc.   Luckily Oliver kept these and other very helpful letters - unlike other members of the family (who didn't seem to keep anything in the way of family historical information) - I attribute this to the fact that Oliver was better educated than most of the other Gibbs family of that era.            

I found only one birth listed of GIBBS' in Washington Co, - this must be Geoffrey L. GIBBS - Olivers child - but the listing erred in Oliver's middle initial below.                                        

Gibbs, ______    -  O.E. Gibbs  -    Alge Tucker   -  Male  -    Oct. 19, 1901   -  Book H-5,  Pg. 11   - Washington Co, IN  

 

 

The biography below was sent to me by Oliver's Grandaughter, Philis Gibbs Ballew in September 2001

 

       Oliver Grant, or "Ollie", Gibbs as he was known then, was born May 4, 1865.  He left his home in Washington County Indiana at age 16 to go to the Academy at Mitchell, Indiana and then on to Valparaiso University.  After the session he was offered a position teaching the summer term at New Philadelphia Station just outside of Salem, Indiana.  One of his students that term was Algenette Tucker.

       Algenette, of the dark brown hair, found her teacher increasingly interesting and soon discovered herself to be in love with him.  And although he was the teacher, he was only two years her elder.  After much teasing they were wedded in her family home.  Mr. and Mrs. Oliver Grant Gibbs remained in Indiana where he taught and after learning telegraphy was the railroad agent in several different towns until 1902 when the call of the west became too strong.  Alge had cousins who had already moved to far away Great Bend, Kansas.  So the family put their furniture, including Alge's beloved pump organ, in the baggage car, along with a sewing machine and a fine looking trunk containing her wedding and graduations dresses.  Because the livestock needed attention, O.G. and their oldest son, Kenneth, age 7,  spent much of their time in the boxcar with the farm animals.  Algenette, Mary Eliza, age 5, and Geoffrey, age one year, traveled in the passenger section.

       Somehow Kansas didn't seem the right place.  And so, because O.G. had friends who'd recently moved on to Oklahoma Territory close to the farming community of Shattuck, he decided to go down and have a look.  Lee (Ollie) Denny and John Kirkpatrick continued to brag about the "wonderful farmland".  And although it was winter when O.G. arrived and snow covered the ground, undaunted, he dug down through the snow for a handful of soil and decided to move his family.

       Once again, in May 1903, Oliver loaded the family goods on the Santa Fe and headed south where he bought a relinquishment of 160 acres.  Kenneth remembers riding again with the livestock while the other members of the family went in the passenger section. The family horses and mules were brought down from Great Bend as well as the cows.                                                      

       For a short time Oliver acted as station agent at the Shattuck

Santa Fe depot when it was still in a boxcar, farmed, and also taught school several terms at Hembel School, about five miles a little southwest from their homeplace and at Ivanhoe School about 3 miles northwest across Wolf Creek or Wolf River as it was called then.  School was usually in session for only four or five months during the winter.  By this time Kenneth was going to school and he remembers his Dad riding a saddlehorse while he rode a donkey to the one-room schoolhouse at Ivanhoe every day for two years.  Kenneth's donkey would let two or three big 15 or 16 year-old boys on its back and run the length of the schoolyard where it dumped them off over his head.  School lunches were usually biscuits and cold sausage and sometimes smoked pork or crackers and cheese. A student was really fortunate if he had an apple for these came in on the train in the freight car from New Mexico.  In the wintertime lunch boxes that were set in the hall window would freeze before noon.

 

Clips from the Salem Rupublic-Leader: 

Feb 2, 1894:     O.G. Gibbs, telegraph operator at Alert, Indiana is visting

relatives in the county.  He has just recovered from an attack of pneumonia.

 

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Aug. 24, 1894:    Arthur and Anna Gibbs visited their uncle O.G. Gibbs at

Freetown last week

                                        

 

More About OLIVER GRANT GIBBS:

Burial: Shattuck Cem.

 

More About ALGENETTE HAZELTINE TUCKER:

Burial: Buried together in the Shattuck Cem.

 

                  ix.    JAMES E. GIBBS, b. December 1, 1866.

                   x.    CHARLES C. GIBBS, b. December 29, 1868, Washington Co. Indiana; Possibly b:12-9-68; d. July 20, 1953, Lathrop, Missouri; left IN in 1900; see notes; m. AUGUSTA LOUISE HERGEMUELLER, no children; b. August 30, 1884; d. May 7, 1967, She is the sister of Malvina, Arthur A. Gibbs 2nd wife.

 

Notes for CHARLES C. GIBBS:

According to an obituary he spent most of his life on a farm, lived for many years near his nephew Arthur Anthony Gibbs.  He left Indiana in 1900 for Oklahoma; after a short time there he farmed at Hickman Mills, MO and near Elmira, MO.  Later he moved to Lathrop, MO and spent his last 22 years there.  Memorial services were held July 23, 1953 at Crunk Funeral Home with Rev. Harry Ezell conducting.  Cremation at Kansas City followed the service.  I suspect he is what encouraged Arthur Anthony to settle near him in Missouri.

 

August 2002 - I've found some interesting newsclippings from the Salem/ Washington County Newspaper showing Charles Gibbs lived in Sullivan County, IN in the 1890s.... and also another man Edward Gibbs was in Sullivan IN - could he be James Edward ? - they are both said to be brothers of A.P. Gibbs of Washington County.

 

More About CHARLES C. GIBBS:

Burial: He had  NO  children

Event 1: Obituary states he lived on the old Watt

Event 2: farm for 22 years, southwest of Lathrop,MO

 

       

Children of GEORGE GIBBS and MARY LOGAN are:

                  xi.    RALPH L.4 GIBBS, b. 1885, IN; was @ S. Lebanon 1910 & Springfield, OH in 1920; d. May 8, 1963, West Palm Beach, FL- moved there in 1946; m. RUBY COOPER, Abt. 1908; b. August 23, 1890, Union Twp, Warren Co, OH - pg. 443, Warren Co.births; d. April 1, 1979, W. Palm Beach, FL - last death benefit =Lake Worth, FL.

 

Notes for RALPH L. GIBBS:

1910 census of Warren Co, OH @ South Lebanon shows he, age 25, born in IN and wife, Ruby age 19 with son Harold.. no age on Harold.   I have found two such names on the social security records - both dying in Florida and both have SS issued in Ohio  - a Ralph born March 29, 1883 and died 1963 and Ruby born Aug. 23,  1890 - she died in West Palm Beach, FL in 1979.   Will need to track this family.   Birthdates of children from Warren Co, records.  In those records the middle initial "L" was found - I bet it stands for "Logan" as his mother's maiden name.   This Ralph's bd of 1883 certainly seems to be too early to be ours since they Geo. & Mary Logan didn't marry til 1884.

 

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Federal Census 1910 - Warren County - Union Township - E.D. 157  -- 108/111  -

South Lebanon - Forest Avenue

 

Gibbs,  Ralph, head, MW, 25, married, 1 year, Ind, Eng, Ind

"           Ruby, wife, 19, married, 1 year, Ohio, Ind, Ohio

"           Harold, son 7/12, Ohio, Ind, Ohio

 

118/121 - South Lebanon - Forest Avenue

 

Gibbs, Mary, head, FW, 64, widowed, 2 children/2 living, Ind, Ind, Delaware

 

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Federal Census 1920 - Clark County - Enumeration District- 67, p1, line 75.  -

address 451  Sherman Avenue - Springfield - rented the home

 

Gibbs,  Ralph, head,  MW, 34,

"           Ruby, wife,     FW, 29

"           Harold C, son,      10

"           Paul B, son,    4 5/12

 

Their residence in 1928 was 608 W. High St. -  Harold C. was living with them then.   In 1929 they had moved to 824 S. Fountain Ave. and Harold was still living  with them there in 1931.   By 1933 Paul (but not Harold) was living with them at 21 W. Mulberry - still in Springfield, OH.   In 1939 (below) they were still at 21 W. Mulberry - but neither son is with them by then.

 

1939 - Ralph L. (Ruby C.) clk, Tracy G. Current, h (home?), 21 W. Mulberry - Mrs. Ruby C. Gibbs, alterator, Bancroft's, 21 W. Mulberry - other Gibbs in this directory are Clifford Gibbs, Mrs. Edna Gibbs, Jas (Louise) Gibbs, and Louise Gibbs - none are at 21 W. Mulberry - where are Harold and Paul? I cannot find any evidence that Tracy G. Current or Bancroft's are businesses that exist today. The word "alterator" is spelled exactly as it was listed in the directory.

  

Ralph apparently had many occupations - he is listed on the 1910 census @ South Lebanon as "Loader-Cartridge works" - we believe this was probably for the King's Powder Company at Kings Mills, OH.   In 1920 @ Springfield, OH, he is listed as "Inspector - Manuf. Machinery".    The city directory of Springfield lists him in 1928 as an "Autoworker".     In 1931 on the Springfield city directory he is listed as a "Meat Cutter".   In 1939 he is listed as a "Clerk" - Then in the obit that is in the Springfield newspaper says he is a retired "Painter".

 

Jan. 2001 - I received Ralph's OHIO  obituary by Email - Springfield News (Ohio) - May 18, 1963.

RALPH L GIBBS, 80, of West Palm Beach, Fla, died May 8 in a West Palm Beach hospital following an extended illness.   Mr. Gibbs, a former Springfield resident, had resided in West Palm Beach since 1946.  A retired painter, he was a member of the Wagg Memorial Church, West Palm Beach. Survivors include his widow, Ruby; one son, Paul B Gibbs of Fort Lauderdale;  two grandchildren and one great-grandchild.  A son, Harold C. Gibbs of Springfield, preceded him in death in 1957, and his widow, Mrs. Jean Gibbs also survives.  Funeral services were held in the Mizell-Taville Zern Hebiscus funeral home,  West Palm Beach, and burial was in Memory Gardens in Lake Worth, Fla.

 

The following are Gibbs found in the library obituary database & the

publication date of when it appeared in the Springfield, Ohio Newspaper

(I now don't believe any of these are related to ours):

Harry R Gibbs   -  4/7/1958

Harold J Gibbs  - 1/11/1985

Mary Catharine Gibbs - 2/11/1985

 

The Social Security records all show the BD of this Ralph to be March 29, 1883.   That is over 1 year before the marriage license for George & Mary Logan.  - Greater than One year before George married Mary LOGAN.  and only about 4 months after Mary Matilda died.   The 1910 & 1920 census suggests the 1885 Birth year I had previously assumed - but this is confusing.   It is likely this social security index below is in error ?   But it is certainly possible that Ralph was born out of wedlock between the two of them or that Ralph was either adopted or was really the child of one of them and someone else ?   Need to get a death certificate on Ralph.

 

RALPH GIBBS   SSN  274-12-6019 - Residence:   Florida  - Born  29 Mar 1883,  Died  May 1963;  Issued:  OH (Before 1951)

 

Aug. 2001:  Spoke with staff at Memory Gardens Cemetery at Lake Worth, FL - They gave me the year of 1885 listed as Ralph's BD.  They had two death notices, one an obit May 9, 1963 and a smaller burial notice on May 11, 1963, both in the Palm Beach Post.   They also verified Ruby was buried next to them and so was their son, Harold who died first of the 3.   It appears they bought the plots in 1957, which is when Harold died - So, I assume they purchased the lots due to Harold's death.   The obits were not helpful, listing no descendants by name except Paul.   I've always wondered if Ralph was a son of Mary's from an earlier marriage and George adopted him.  That could explain the 1883 date.  Maybe his parents tried to cover up his being an adopted Gibbs by suggesting his BD as 1885 ?   Other information on Mary LOGAN suggest she was NOT married previously however, so I think Ralph is Mary Logan & George Gibbs full blooded son.

 

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Burial: Memory Gardens, Lake Worth, FL

 

Notes for RUBY COOPER:

5 lines below copied and pasted directly from Social Security records  - reasonbly certain this is Ralph's wife is the exact same birthdate as given in Warren Co. birth Records - 1888-1892 and of course has same name.

SS#: 301-09-5905   -  Issued in: Ohio

Birth date: Aug 23, 1890;     Death date: Apr 1979

Residence code: Florida;     ZIP Code of last known residence: 33401

Primary location associated with this ZIP Code:   West Palm Beach, Florida

ZIP Code of address where death benefit payment was sent: 33460

Primary location associated with this ZIP Code:     Lake Worth, Florida

 

See Ruby's gravestone on husband Ralph's scrapbook, photo sent by Barbara Gibs Nailler.

 

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Burial: Memory Gardens, Lake Worth, FL

 

                 xii.    NELLIE GIBBS, b. August 6, 1889, Seymour, IN - Jackson Co.; d. September 1953, Cincinnati, OH - Hamilton Co.; m. JEAN E. BURKE, Abt. 1909; b. 1881, Ilinois - (Not spelled BURK) - both parents from Indiana; d. July 18, 1943, Warren Co, OH - while fishing near Foster, OH.

 

Notes for NELLIE GIBBS:

Nellie must have moved to Cincinnati, Hamilton Co, OH either late in 1909 or early 1910.   Her first child is shown born in Warren Co, OH in 1909 and she is on the Hamilton Co, 1910 census living with husband Jean BURKE. - page or Enumeration district  0372.   That census index shows jean as 29 y.o. and Nellie as 20 - but the index at least doesn't show a child listed - but I don't know the exact date of the census Mary Gertrude was born June 1910.    Then we have a letter from her written in 1918 from Cincinnati.   Then she was residing at 4018 W. Liberty St. in Cincinnati - but 2 years later they had moved to another location in Cincinnati - below, note they are living with her widowed Mother in 1920.

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Federal Census - 1920 - Hamilton County - E.D. 349, p2, line 2.  -  2819 Claypool Avenue - Cincinnati

 

Burke,  Jean  -    head,     MW,      38,  married,     Ill,    Ind,     Ind,        salesman

"           Nellie,    wife,       FW,       30,  married,    Ind,   Ind,   England,  no occupation

"           Mary Gertrude,  daughter,   9,                  Ohio,   Ill,      Ind.

"           Ethel,                daughter,    2 11/12,        Ohio,   Ill,      Ind

Gibbs,  Mary,     mother-in-law,      73, widowed,   Ind,   Ind,   England

 

October 2001:   Finally discovered considerable information on Nellie when I traveled to Cincinnati, and discovered that in fact Nellie lived all her adult life in Cincinnati.    Found her and Jean on City Directories in the 1910 period through the 1950s.    Her husband, Jeane Burke was a salesman and died 10 years before Nellie.    With the information from Nellie & Jean's obituaries, I was able to make contact with one of their daughter's (Mary Gertrude Burke) two children, Jack & Patty Arbino, who both still live in Cincinnati.   Also see information I've written on Jean Burke.    Those two of Nellie's Grandchildren also led me to the husband of Ethel Burke (Nellie's other daughter) - Ethel went by the name of "Mickey" died in California.   Her husband's name is Lee Tomlin, who, as of 2002 lives in Whittier, California.   Have not established very many new facts from Nellie's grandchildren, but they were aware of George's Civil War leg amputation and of his train crash death near Cincinnati.    Will hope to keep in touch with them and possibly exchange more family historical information.    I have sent them the photo I had that I thought was Nellie as a young adult - or teenager?, and that they verified was in fact their GrandMother Nellie.

 

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Burial: Maple Grove Cem., Brookville, IN - Franklin Co.

 

Notes for JEAN E. BURKE:

November 2001:

Jack Arbino & Lee Tomlin have both offered stories about Jean's parents although didn't know their names.   Apparently Jean's Mother died young in childbirth.   Then Jean's father died when Jean was only about 10 years old, leaving him orphaned.   He was raised by a family named SCHNUCK.    The Schnuck home was across the road from the George & Mary GIBBS farm.    Thus Jean & Nellie grew up across from each other's families.    Jean's Father apparently owned a circus and was on the road much of the time.   The Father apparently died of pneumonia while traveling.    Jack also corroborates the story about Jean's death of a type of stroke while fishing on Hoppe's Island near Foster.    Jack Arbino helped me find Lee Tomlin, husband of Ethel "Mickey" Burke at Whittier, California who has also assisted with information on this line.

 

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Burial: Maple Grove Cem. Franklin Co, IN - per Jack Arbino