Descendants of John George * PERSINGER
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN GEORGE *6 PERSINGER
(CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Abt. 1759 in Prob. VA; LDS has him b. Jan 19, 1749, and died Dec 10, 1811 in
Kanawha Co VA- now Mason Co, WV. He
married (1) ELIZABETH * KIMBERLING Nov 14, 1778 in VA, Boutetort Co.,
daughter of JACOB KIMBERLING and MARY SCHUMACHER.
She was born 1759 in Augusta Co, WV;or Kimberlin, Kimberlain, Kimbelane
?, and died Abt. 1800 in Probably in Virginia-present day West Viriginia. He married (2) CATHERINE BENNETT STULL Dec
29, 1803 in Botetourt Co, VA -bond on Dec. 23, 1803, daughter of GEORGE STULL. She was born 1762 in Don't know if Bennett is
maiden name or 1st married name or incorrect, and died Sep 18, 1846 in Cedar
Co, Iowa -Believed to be Luke's Step-Mother.
Notes for JOHN GEORGE *
PERSINGER:
Luke's parents have
remained quite controversial. I've
found many different versions. Most do
agree his father was named John, but he may have been John George Persinger and
is likely to have used his middle name.
As of 2005, the jury is still out as to whether Luke even descended from
Jacob the Zumikon, Swiss immigrant of 1735 on the ship Mercury to
Philadelphia. Some say Luke's Father was
John P. PERSINGER and others say John George PERSINGER, many
don't show a middle initial. There were
at least two John Persingers at the time in that area and possibly three. Also there were more than one possible
mother. So, we are going to need some better sources than
what is now available. I've had Luke's
father to be born all the way from 1749 to 1775. Obviously it can't be the latter unless
Luke's BD is much later than we believe.
Luke's BD is set fairly well though at 1783 (all census records &
gravestone). I will maintain the most
likely BD for Luke's father to be 1758 until better evidence shows
otherwise. Now there is a John
Persinger mentioned in a will for wife Rachel in Howard Co, Missouri with an
apparent son mentioned - Andrew. This
is thought by many to be the John, son of Christopher and that our John may in
fact be a son of one of the many Jacob PERSINGERs. In fact it may even be that our John is the
son of the Jacob who was never really a Persinger but was given the name after he was taken
back from the Indians. There is good
documentation that our John, father of Luke, 1st married Elizabeth
KIMBERLING. This is further substantiated
by one of Luke's daughter with given name Kimberlain and I believe he also may
have had a grandchild with the same given name. I've yet to find any confirmatory details on
the Kimberlin family name back in Virginia from Germany that relates to our Luke
or his presumed Father John. Anyway,
the security and witness for both Mary & Elizabeth is Palser
Kimberling. The date for the marriage of
Jacob and Mary is November 10, 1778, and the date for John & Elizabeth is
11-14-78.
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Email below from Doug
Anderson:
"As for John
Persinger, I believe that the John who married Elizabeth Kimberlain is a
brother of Christopher not a son".
Now, over the years of study, this seems to
have become the more prevalent thought.
I've left my datafile showing the original that Christopher was Father
of John George. Proof to me seems hard
to find.
This was part of an
Email from Michelle "Shelly" Dudley from January 1, 2001:
Nitro, The WWI
Boomtown" by William Wentz, Chapter 4, The First Settlers, states that
John and Catherine Persinger moved from Covington to Kanawaha Valley and
settled opposite the mouth of the Coal River.
He was first mentioned in 1799 when he petitioned the Kanawha Co. Court
for a license to operate a ferry across the Kanawha River and Coal River. It also says that John's sister Rebecca
married John Dudding, who was the executor of his estate when he died
in1810. John's son Jacob married Ursula
Blake, dau. of George Blake. John mentions
three sons Luke, John and Jacob and a daughter Elizabeth who married Henry
Harmon. I have this Father John as the brother of Rebecca
Dudding, but I cannot make the connection with the rest.
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1790 & 1800 - I
cannot find any Persingers in the US in these years by the usual spelling.
Jean Cummings has sent
this analysis of a John Persinger census entry for Nov. 1, 1810, Kanawha Co, VA
(now WV)
1810
> Virginia >
KANAWHA > NO TWP LISTED Series: M252 Roll: 69
Page: 413 - PERSINGER, JOHN
John Persinger (presumed one married to Catherine Stull at
that time, just 1 to 2 yrs. before his death)
2 Males under 10 (Henry & George)
2 Males 10-16 (Ben & Elias)
2 Males 16-26 (Luke & Nancy's husband)
1 Male > 45 (John)
2 Females under
10 (Nancy & Mattie)
1 Female 10-16 (Nancy)
...ed-?
1 Female > 45
But this is not
possible to include Luke because there are 3 entries for Persingers in the 1810
Kanawha Co. census one showing
Luke as a householder
himself:
Males Females other free - Slaves
24
1 Persinger, Jacob 4
0 0 1
0 1 0 0 1
0 0 0 - This Jacob & wife shown 26 to 45, with
FOUR males 0-9 & ONE female 0-9
24
6 Persinger, John 2
2 2 0
1 2 1 0 0
1 0 4 - John shown > 45, and the only one of 3
Persingers to own slaves = 4
19
6 Persinger, Luke 1
0 1 0
0 1 0 1 0
0 0 0 - Luke shown here as only 16 to 26
(transcribed correct? - should be 26 or 27)
the above Kanawha Co,
census shows John >45, with TWO male children, ages 0-9, TWO males ages 10-16, & 2 males 16-26
Also John shows TWO
females 0-9, one female 10-16 & one female > 45, note same census
describing Luke's family under notes for Luke
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NOTE: Kanawha county was formed in 1789 and was a
part of Virginia until 1863 when West Virginia separated from Virginia...
ALSO, in the same year
in BOTETORT Co. VA - which is still part of VA and quite a ways SE of Kanawha
Co, VA shows in 1810 TWO more John PERSINGER as heads of households ! - one
listed as a Senior..... I don't believe EITHER of those Johns are Luke's
Father.
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The very intriguing
letter below sent November 5, 1999 from Patrick Hardy:
From:
RiesHardy@aol.com
I'm looking for clues
to a homocide that probably happened between 1825 - 1830 in Kanawha Co. West
Virginia. Here's the story:
I'm a descendant of
John Persinger who lived in Kanawha WV, and operated a ferry service across the
Kanawha river and the Coal river. John
died in 1811. His son, James Persinger
(born in 1795, and married to Polly Gillespie in 1822), moved with his mother
and older brother, Luke,to Washington Co., Indiana (sometime between 1825 -
1830. The curious thing is, however,
that coinciding with his move to Indiana, James and his wife took on the last
name "Hardy". Around 1840,
James moved again; this time to Newton Co., Texas. All his children, born both in Indiana and
Texas, were given the last name "Hardy". Furthermore, all the kids kept a
"P" as their middle initial.
Family oral tradition has it that James killed a man back in West
Virginia, supposedly over "the honor" of his wife, and then made a
quick get away. Is there anyway to find
out something about this "murder
mystery"? James
Persinger (Hardy) was my ggg grandfather.
Thanks for any help
that you may be able to offer.
S.G. Patrick Hardy
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PERSINGER, John, Will,
4-3-1810. Dev.: Wife; Luke, John, sons; Elizabeth
Harmon, dau.
PERSINGER, John, Will, 1811.
It is believed the
1811 is Probate after death, with the will of April 1810 being made before John's
death.
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1810 Census shows the
following Persingers and their counties.
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Andrew Persinger Botetourt County
Barbary Persinger Botetourt County (widow of Christoper)
Henry Persinger Botetourt County
Jacob Persinger
(Younger) Botetourt County
Jacob Persinger Kanawha County
Jacob Persinger
Jr. Botetourt County
Jacob Persinger
Sr. Botetourt County
Jno. Persinger Botetourt County
Jno. Persinger
Sr. Botetourt County
John Persinger Kanawha County <<<
Luke Persinger Kanawha County <<<
Moses Persinger Botetourt County
Moses Persinger Botetourt County
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Personal Property Tax
records of Va. copied from originals in the State
Library, Richmond, Va.
by Don an dGloria Persinger, July, 1965
Persingers, Kanawha
County
1801 John, Jacob
1805 John, Jacob
1807 John Sr., Jacob, Luke
1809 John, Luke
1810 William, John, Luke
1811 Luke, Jacob, John (2) William (John prob
died after this)
1812 Luke, William, Jacob
1813 Luke, Michael, Jacob
1814 Benjamin, Jacob, Luke, Kathrine (This may
be our widow Catherine)
1815 Jacob, James, Kathrine, Michael, Benjamin,
Luke
1816 James, Benjamin, Jacob (No Luke or
Cathrine, assumed gone to Indiana)
1817 Benjamin, Jacob, William, Michael
1818 William, Michael
1819 William, Jacob, Michael
1820 Michael, Jacob 3, William
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March 2003 - Received
this transcribed will of John Persinger from Marvin Persinger via Email - he
states it was sent to him by Bonnie Persinger who died about 1992, It clearly shows
him as Father of LUKE:
"I John Persinger of Kanawha county and
state of Virginia on the third day of April in the year one thousand eight
hundred and ten make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner
following to wit. 1st I desire that as soon as convenient after my decease that
my estate of every kind be appraised, my cash debts to be collected by my
executors hereafter named and to pay all my just debts and funeral expenses,
the remaintder of my estate of every description is to remain in the hands of
my beloved wife and those of my children that are now living with her for their
support and mantainance until my youngest child arrives to the age of eighteen
years at which period my estate is again go be valued by disinterested persons and
sold at public auction, the money acruing from said sale, necessary expenses
first deducted the remainder to be equally divided between my beloved wife and
children, excepting those hereafter mentioned towit, My son Jacob is to have no
part of my estate having paid him in full and took his receipt for the same. My
son Luke, I paid him one hundred dollars which is to be deducted out of the
part of my estate, my son John I paid him five dollars which is to be deducted
out of his part of my estate my daughter Elizabeth now Elizabeth Harmon, I paid
her ninety dollars which is to be deducted out of her part of my estate. Item
it is my desire that my beloved wife if she can give sufficent security to take
all my estate into her hands after the appraisement, just debts and personal
expenses first paid and deducted and support and maintain my children that are
now living with her until my youngest child arrives at the age before mentioned
at which period the amount of the first appraisement of my estate is to be equally
divided amongsgt my surviving children as aforementioned by my executors and I
do make constitute and appoint my beloved wife Catharine Persinger, my friend
John Dudding and Richard McAllister executors of this my last will and
testament and I do disanul and revoke all former wills by me made declaring
this to be my last will and testament in witness whereof I have hereunto set my
hand and affixed my seal the day and year aforesaid-John Persinger (by
mark)"
At a court held for
Kanawha county the 10th day of December 1811 this last will and testament of
John Persinger deceased.
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Marvin Persinger has
written me that he thinks John, Father of Luke could have been born as early as
1745 instead of the later date I show here.
And he also thinks it is likely that this John is a son of Jacob the
immigrant rather than a Grandson of Jacob and that Christopher is therefore a
brother rather than a Father of My John, so all this next supports the idea
that the John, son of Christopher was not in fact the John who was Father of
Luke.
The wife of John
Persinger (son of Christopher) was
Rachel.
Deed book 14 pg 97 23
Aug 1819-John Wright & Catharine his wife, Moses Persinger and Charlotte
his wife, John Persinger & Rachel his wife, John King & Isabelle his
wife, George Fought and Mary his wife, Jacob Persinger & Margaret his wife,
George Persinger, William Persinger & Barbara his wife, Adam Persinger,
George Karnes & Elizabeth his wife sell to Nathan Bush
John & Rachel went
to Missouri
1882 History of
Daviess County, Mo." page 638
Obadiah Perssinger was
born in Botetourt County, Virginia. He was the son of John and Rachel
Persinger, both natives of Virginia, of German descent. They came to Howard
Co., Missouri in 1821 and settled at Old Franklin. After residing there for two
years, they moved to Clay County where they lived 10 years, then moved to
Clinton County and remained there for 4 years. On February 23rd, 1837, Mr.
Obadiah Persinger married Rebecca Elliot, a native of Anderson Co., Kentucky,
born May 14, 1816. Her parents John and Ruth Elliot, were born in Kentucky and
came to Missouri in 1832 and settled in Clinton County. After the marriage of
Mr and Mrs Persinger they settled in Buchanan county and lived there 4 years
and then moved to Gentry County and in the fall of 1859 permanently located on
what is now their beautiful farm in Benton Township. Ten children have been
born to them, nine of who are still living: Elizabeth, Rachel, John, Susan,
Joseph, Martha, Thomas, Rebecca, James W., and Lewis who died when 5 months
old. Mr Obadiah Persinger has been a local preacher in the Methodist church for
many years.
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Here are some
important historical notes about Kanawha Co, VA/ WV that I took off the
counties GenWeb internet site:
Kanawha county was formed in an Act of
the Virginia Legislature in 1789, from portions of Greenbrier and Montgomery
counties. "Kanawha" comes from an indian name meaning "place of
white stone" this was probably because of the salt that was found in the
area. The original county was about 120 miles long and nearly 100 miles wide.
The western border was at the Big Sandy River and the county extended east to
Sewell Mountain on what was the Greenbrier county line. To the north the county
was bounded by the Little Kanawha River and extended south to the boundaries of
Montgomery and Tazewell counties, Virginia and the state of Kentucky. In 1804
and 1809, Mason and Cabell counties respectively, were formed from part of
Kanawha county. Over the first century of the county history, many new counties
would be formed in portions of the original Kanawha county territory: Nicholas
1818, Logan 1824, Fayette 1831, Jackson 1831, Braxton 1836, Boone 1847, Gilmer
1843, Putnam 1848, Calhoun 1855, Roane 1856, Clay 1856, and Lincoln 1867. After
the Civil War erupted in 1861, the northwestern portion of Virginia separated
from Virginia, and Kanawha county became a part of West Virginia.
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From Marriages of
Kanawha Co.
Persinger, Jacob Blake, Ursula June 1, 1802 James Johnston
Persinger, Luke Hull, Esther October 26, 1806 William Williams
Persinger,
Michael Sheredreks, Polly 1813 John Lee
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This is all from Lloyd
Dudding:
JOHN3 PERSINGER, SR.
(CHRISTIAN CHRISTOPHER2, JACOB1) died Abt. 1810. He
married (1) CATHERINE
WIFE OF JOHN PERSINGER SR. (UNKNOWN). He married (2)
ELIZABETH KIMBERLINE
Abt. 1778 in Greenbrier County.
Notes for JOHN
PERSINGER, SR.:
The following
quotation is excerpted from, "From Culpeper County to the Teas
Valley" (Revised
1978) by Mildred Chapman Gibbs, Hqrtford, West Virginia:
"John was the
fourth son of Christopher Persinger. In 1799, after their
children were grown,
they moved to the Kanawha Valley and settled opposite the mouth of the Coal
River where he operated a ferry. Elizabeth died and he married a second time.
John's will carried
the provision that his good friends, John Dudding (also
a brother-in-law) and
Richard McCallister, be appointed executors. After the
sale, the heirs were
paid off in cash. John Dudding conducted the auction.
Many well known names
were listed as purchasers. One was William Dudding, Rebecca's son, the ancestor
of all the family of the Erasmus Chapman line.
After the estate was
settled, Luke, John Jr., and Catherine Persinger all
moved to Washington
County, Indiana.
There are still
members of this pioneer family living in the area of the
Kanawha Valley. There
are also quite a few Persinger records in the Mason
County records, and
are probably of the same family, although I did not make
any effort to connect
them."
Children of JOHN
PERSINGER and ELIZABETH KIMBERLINE are:
i. LUKE4 PERSINGER.
ii. JOHN PERSINGER,
JR..
iii. HARNON PERSINGER.
Notes for HARNON
PERSINGER:
He was the first
settler on Harmon's Creek of the Poca River.
12. iv. JACOB
PERSINGER, SR., b. Abt. 1777; d. 09 May 1856.
8. JACOB3 PERSINGER
(CHRISTIAN CHRISTOPHER2, JACOB1) was born 1772. He
married MILDRED WIFE
OF JACOB PERSINGER (UNKNOWN)
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There are many LDS
submitters for John & Luke:
MARY KATHRYN LEEDING Microfilm:
1394002
2992 BORGE STREET
OAKTON VA Submission: AF83-000419
USA 22124
RLYNN & LAREE
ANDERSON Microfilm: NONE
418 EAST OAK LANE
KAYSVILLE UT Submission:
AF92-106943
USA 84037
RAYMOND B. COROB Microfilm:
NONE
P O BOX 361
27852 PENINSULA DR
NORTH
LAKE ARROWHEAD CA Submission: AF93-108007
USA 92352
DR. JAY CASPER Microfilm: NONE
368 REDWOOD DR
IDAHO FALLS ID Submission: AF96-112195
USA 83401
Casper, Dr Jay W
368 Redwood Dr
Idaho Falls, ID
83401-2948
(208) 523-4368
Karen Hammer
3000 Moxadarla Dr
Zanesville, OH
43701-8356
(740) 450-8885
More About JOHN GEORGE *
PERSINGER:
Burial: Uncertain if
Luke's father John was Christopher's son ?
Notes for ELIZABETH * KIMBERLING:
Children of;
JACOB KIMBERLING and
MARIA SCHMALTZHAF are:
i.
PAULZER5 KUMMERLIN, d. June 17, 1808.
ii.
ELIZABETH CATHERINE KUMMERLIN, b. Botetourt Co., Va.; d. 1817,
Washington Co., Indiana.
iii. MARIA EVA KUMMERLIN, b. October 03, 1741; d.
October 03, 1741, WURTENBERG, Germany.
iv. ADAM JOHANNES KIMBERLING, b. July 07, 1743,
Germany; d. 1805, MASON CO., W.V..
v.
JOHANN REINHARD KUMMERLIN, b. September 22, 1745.
vi. MARIA CATHERINE KUMMERLIN, b. November 18,
1747; d. 1811; m. JACOB PERSINGER, November 14, 1778, Botetourt Co., Va..
vii. MICHAEL JOHANNES KUMMERLIN, b. July 01,
1753; d. May 06, 1826, Allegheny Co., Va..
viii. JACOB KUMMERLIN, b. 1757; d. July 26, 1801,
Knox Co., Tennessee.
ix.
CHRISTIANN KUMMERLIN, b. 1761; d. May 20, 1838, Perry Co., Alabama.
Anyway, the security and witness for both
Mary & Elizabeth is Palser Kimberling.
The date for Jacob and Mary is November 10, 1778, and
the date for John
& Elizabeth is 11-14-78.
However there is an
LDS submission showing the John that married Elizabeth KIMBLING, that
Elizabeth's Mother was:
Mary Magdalene
RHINEHART as 2nd wife for John but does show 1st wife as Maria Eva Katharina
SCHMALTZHAF, but then
adds a 3rd wife:
Maria SCUMACHER !!
This was given me in a
1999 Email from Ms. Velma Witt. I am
confused by it. It appears that Jacob
Sr. here came over
with his family from
Germany sometime after 1741 and that presumably this ii is John's wife, but
with the marriage date as Jacob
Persingers?
It also would seem
unlikely to have two daughters, one
named Maria Catherine and one Maria Eva.
- It shows only one in Washington Co, - but
my information showed
John's 1st wife to be Elizabeth KIMBERLIN and who died in Virginia long before
this one in 1817. Now granted there is
a Catherine PURSINGER
on the 1820 census of Washington Co, IN - And many feel that Catherine was
Luke's Step-Mother, Catherine STULL and that is what I too believe.
But there are numerous
possibilities here - too many to describe and I'm already too confused thinking
of them all. I've often thought that
Luke's
Step-mother was
married to an earlier husband, STULL and
that her maiden name was NOT Stull - but possibly Bennett as described in the
Washington
Co., historical
biography book.
Notes for CATHERINE BENNETT STULL:
From: Email by Jean Cummings:
My Persinger
information comes from a granddaughter of Catherine Bennett Stull who wrote it
down in an old German
Psalm book, which I have. Back 100 years ago a relative copied it and
it’s a good thing as the writing has faded so
much it’s hard to read. The German psalm book
was printed in the 1700s. Anyway, it tells
that Catherine came from Germany when she was
12. She married a widower, John Persinger, who
had 10 children. Luke was the third child and
third son.
Catherine then had three more children, George, Henry and Martha, my
ancestor.
After John died Catherine went to Washington
County, Ind. with her three children and Luke,
her step-son.
So Henry is a half-brother to Luke.
According to the old writings put in the
German psalm book, an insert,
(Catherine had written
directly into the psalm book several birth dates, I
think I sent them to
you some time back) Catherine spoke only German and used
to walk through the
woods in Iowa, after they moved there, shouting praises
to the Lord in German.
Which must mean that the Persingers in early Indiana
spoke German also.
Catherine’s daughter, Martha, my ancestor, married Preston
Downing in Washington
County, Ind. before migrating to Iowa in if I remember
right, 1839.
Jean also sent me more
details apparently all written in
January 1910 by her Grand-daughter, Mary
(Mrs. William
Elliott), but came from an old German hymn book dated 1762:
Katie Stull Persinger
came from Germany when 12 yrs. old, locating in West Virginia in the Western
part near the Kanawa
River - was educated in German. She
married a widower by the name of
John Persinger who had
4 children, Nancy, Elias, Ben &
Luke. Catherine Persinger, my
Grandmother
had 3 children Henry,
George & Mattie (My Mother). Mother
was 2 years old when Grandpa died (John P.)
Nancy Persinger, the
oldest step-daughter married William Gordon and lived on Grandma's farm - owned
slaves, was her
administrator of Estate. Mother, Mattie
Persinger was born Nov. 17, 1809, was married
to Preston Downing in
November 1826. Grandma took the 6
children - 3 step-children and 3 of her own
and journeyed to
Indiana somewhere between 1809 & 1826 and located in Washington County,
Indiana.
Elias Persinger &
Robert Elliott (Wm. Elliott's Father) went to Alabama. Elias stayed there, married a rich
planter's girl - was
rich but all was destroyed in the rebellion -died about that time. Uncle Luke and and
Ben Persinger lived
till death in Washington County. I
don't know what became of Henry and George.
Grandmother Persinger
(Catherine) came to Iowa with us in 1842 and lived with us till her death in
1846.
- and was laid to rest
in Union Church yard - her choice.
Wanted to be buried on her own land that is a
part of Grandmas' 40 -
aged 80 or more - lost the records.
(ed.- this cemetery is near Mechanicsville, IA -ag)
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Next the text below is
from an Email by Ilene Kreider:
By the way, the
cemetery she is buried in is called Union-Clear Creek Cemetery and it used
to be a part of Preston Downing's farm. And Preston didn't come to Iowa until after
1839
because his last child born in Indiana was
born that year. This cemetery is in
Pioneer
Township, Cedar
County, Iowa only about 2 miles south of Hwy. 30. You would probably
have to go west out of Mechanicsville about 4
or 5 miles to get to the gravel road that leads
to the cemetery after some twists and
turns. It's right near the road and
fairly easy to get
too.
I'll have to scan my map of the township and send it to you.
More About CATHERINE BENNETT STULL:
Burial: Union-Clear
Creek. Cem.- Pioneer Twp, Cedar Co, Iowa
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
ELIZABETH KIMBERLING are:
i. JOHN7 PERSINGER,
b. Abt. 1779, Kanawha, Virginia; d. Aft. 1811.
2. ii. ELIZABETH PERSINGER, b. 1781, Kanawha, Virginia; d. Jan 19,
1863, Putnam Co, WV; or 1868.
3. iii. JACOB PERSINGER, b. 1778, Kanawha, Virginia; d. Aug 09,
1856, Putnam Co, WV.
4. iv. LUKE * PERSINGER, b. 1783, Virginia; came to IN w/ wife &
St. Mo. abt. 1816; d. Jan 02, 1871, Washington Co. IN- Jefferson Twp..
v. BARBARA JANE PERSINGER, b. Apr 15, 1784, Kanawha Co, VA; Or
Barbary; d. 1862.
vi. MICHAEL B. PERSINGER, b. Jan 1788, Kanawha Co, VA; d. Jun 06,
1875.
vii. JAMES PERSINGER, b. Nov 19, 1791, Changed his surname to
Hardy; d. 1855, Texas - was at Newton Co, 1850, age 55; m. MARY POLLY GILLESPIE,
Feb 14, 1822, Kanawha Co, VA; b. Abt. 1796.
Notes for JAMES PERSINGER:
Varying dates for James
exists: Dec 25, 1797 & Nov. 19, 1791
are the two most commonly seen but are quite far apart, making me very wary of
claiming either.
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This very intriguing
letter below sent November 5, 1999 from Patrick Hardy:
From: RiesHardy@aol.com
I'm looking for clues
to a homocide that probably happened between 1825 - 1830 in Kanawha Co. West
Virginia. Here's the story:
I'm a descendant of
John Persinger who lived in Kanawha WV, and operated a ferry service across the
Kanawha river and the Coal river. John
died in 1811. His son, James Persinger
(born in 1795, and married to Polly Gillespie in 1822), moved with his mother
and older brother, Luke,to Washington Co., Indiana (sometime between 1825 -
1830. The curious thing is, however, that
coinciding with his move to Indiana, James and his wife took on the last name
"Hardy". Around 1840, James
moved again; this time to Newton Co., Texas.
All his children, born both in Indiana and Texas, were given the last
name "Hardy". Furthermore, all
the kids kept a "P" as their middle initial. Family oral tradition has it that James
killed a man back in West Virginia, supposedly over "the honor" of
his wife, and then made a quick get away.
Is there anyway to find out something about this "murder
mystery"? James
Persinger (Hardy) was my ggg grandfather.
Thanks for any help
that you may be able to offer.
S.G. Patrick Hardy
RiesHardy@suscom.net
5. viii. SARAH PERSINGER, b. Oct 06, 1797, Came to Indiana with
brother Luke; d. Dec 16, 1836.
6. ix. ANDREW ALEXANDER PERSINGER, b. 1799, VA; Lois Downour's ancestor; d.
Aft. 1880, This work by Lois Downour and Bev Bakos.
x. NANCY PERSINGER, b. Oct 26, 1800; d. between 1850-60; m. WILLIAM GORDON; b.
Abt. 1800.
Notes for WILLIAM GORDON:
Note there are two
William Gordon men on the 1820 Washington Co, IN census, page 307 & 311 -
Luke and his presumed step-mother Katherine are at the bottom of Page 305:
1820
> Indiana >
WASHINGTON > NO TWP LISTED Series: M33 Roll: 14
Page: 307
GORDON
WILLIAM
1820
> Indiana >
WASHINGTON > NO TWP LISTED Series: M33 Roll: 14
Page: 311
GORDON WILLIAM
Gordan, William 203
100110 10010 200 - Male: 1<10, 1=16-25, 1= 26-44;
Female: 1<10, 26-44
Gordon, Aaron 202
011201 01001 300
Gordon, Horsard 208
300010 20100 100
Gordon, Samuel 209
210001 10210 200
Gordon, William 207
310101 01101 300 - Male: 3<10, 1= 10-15, 1=26-44, 1>45; Female: 1=10-15, 1=13-25,
1>45
Males: place 1=under ten, place 2=ten to fifteen, place 3=sixteen to eighteen, place 4=sixteen to twenty-five, place
5=twenty-six to forty-four, place 6=forty-five and upwards
Females: place 1=under ten, place 2=ten to fifteen,
place 3=sixteen to twenty-five, place 4=twenty-six to forty-four,
place 5=forty-five and upwards
5th Column Work that
the individuals were engaged in. Example=0200 place=1234 place 1=foreigners not
naturalized place 2=number of persons engaged in Agriculture place 3=number of
persons engaged in Commerce place 4=number of persons engaged in Manufactures.
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The only marriages in
Washington Co IN on the early Indiana marriages website for a William Gordon
were in 1835 & 1848 - neither to a Persinger; so perhaps they married in
Virginia ?
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xi. BENJAMIN PERSINGER, b. 1795, Botetourt Co, VA; or Dec. 26,
1797; d. 1864; m. MARTHA ELLEN ANN LOWRY, Feb 10, 1843, Perry Co, IN; b. Abt. 1816, Jessamine
Co, KY.
Notes for BENJAMIN PERSINGER:
For those claiming to
believe John's Benjamin went to Perry County, Indiana. Albeit there is a Benjamin there at Perry
County, Indiana in 1820 & 1830. I
have Abraham there from 1850 census on, but cannot find Benjamin 1850 or 1860
- I believe the Abraham below is son of
James who was on the 1830 census with a
son the age group 5 to under 10, but Benjamin didn't have one in that age
group. James & Benjamin are shown
adjacent on the 1830 Troy Twp, Perry County census, Page 299.
1880:
Abe PURSINGER
Self W Male W 58 OH Coal Digger
VA ATLANTIC OCEAN
Chas. PURSINGER Son S Male W 20 IN Coal
Digger OH NJ
John PURSINGER
Son S Male W 12 IN OH NJ
Barbara PURSINGER Dau S Female W 9 IN OH NJ
Source Information:
Census
Place Troy, Perry, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254304
NA
Film Number T9-0304
Page
Number 75A
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
CATHERINE STULL are:
xii. NANCY7 PERSINGER,
b. Oct 26, 1804, VA; m. WILLIAM GORDON; b. Abt. 1803.
7. xiii. GEORGE PERSINGER, b. Feb 06, 1805, VA-these children from the
LDS website; d. Bet. 1842 - 1849, Needs more proof these are his line.
8. xiv. HENRY PERSINGER, b. Oct 26, 1807, VA- ancestor of Geo.
Persinger; d. Bet. 1856 - Jul 21 1860, 3 daughts. shown w. Mary Ann are fr.
1860 cen..
9. xv. MARTHA "MATTIE" PERSINGER, b. Nov 17, 1809, VA-ancestor of Jean
Cummings; d. Jan 14, 1860, Cedar Co, IA.
Generation No. 2
2. ELIZABETH7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1781 in Kanawha, Virginia, and died Jan 19, 1863 in Putnam Co, WV; or
1868. She married HENRY H. HARMON Apr 26,
1800 in Cabell, Virginia, son of THOMAS HARMON and NANCY PARKINS. He
was born May 03, 1777 in Botetort Co, VA-these LDS records are of suspect
accuracy, and died Oct 21, 1854 in Putnam Co, WV.
Notes for HENRY H. HARMON:
There are two Henry
Harmon men in Kanawha Co, VA in 1810,
one on the same page 408 as Luke Persinger. That page also has at least 2 other Harmon
men- John & Thomas, who I assume are likely sons of Henry ? The other page 405 is in the city of
Charleston. By 1820, both Henry's are
still present in Kanawha Co, one each on
pages 18 & 19.
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The submitter below,
but some of the children alleged born on the LDS site are well past possibility
unless Henry Harmon had a younger wife later.
DON H. STRONG Microfilm: NONE
239 SO 2ND WEST
PRESTON IDAHO Submission: AF92-106325
83263
Children of ELIZABETH
PERSINGER and HENRY HARMON are:
i. MARY ANN ELIZABETH BETTIE"8 HARMON, b.
Abt. 1796, VA.
ii. SALLIE HARMON, b. Abt. 1798, VA.
iii. WINSTON HARMON, b. Jul 04, 1800, VA.
iv. MARY A. HARMON, b. 1803, VA; d. 1855, Putnam Co, WV.
v. PATSY HARMON, b. Abt. 1805, VA.
vi. WEST HARMON, b. Abt. 1808, VA.
vii. EDWARD NED HARMON, b. 1812, VA.
viii. ELI FERDINAND HARMON, b. 1815, VA.
ix. MARTHA HARMON, b. Abt. 1818, VA.
x. SYDNEY A. HARMON, b. Abt. 1823, VA.
3. JACOB7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1778 in Kanawha, Virginia, and died Aug 09, 1856 in Putnam Co, WV. He married URSULA BLAKE Apr 26, 1800 in
Kanawha Co, VA, daughter of GEORGE BLAKE and SARAH NEWTON. She
was born Jan 1783 in Greenbriar Co, VA, and died Aug 21, 1859 in Putnam Co, WV.
Notes for JACOB PERSINGER:
Information here from
LDS submissions - some is very suspect for credibility - I doubt much of it -
ag:
1.) Laura Ann MENARD
2905 Ben Stoutamire
Road Tallahassee FL 32310
2.) Karen HAMMER
3000 Moxadarla Road
Lot #50 Zanesville, Ohio 43701
Hammer, Glenn A
3000 Moxadarla Dr
Zanesville, OH
43701-8356
(740) 450-8885
MARY KATHRYN
LEEDING Microfilm: 1394002
2992 BORGE STREET
OAKTON VA Submission: AF83-000419
USA 22124
JENNINGS C FISH Microfilm:
1394497
8165 SOUTH MILL ROAD
SPANISH FORK UT Submission:
AF88-001577
USA 84660
CECILIA B YOUNG Microfilm:
NONE
2825 N 7500 W
HINCKLEY UT Submission:
AF92-103055
USA 84635
RLYNN & LAREE
ANDERSON Microfilm: NONE
418 EAST OAK LANE
KAYSVILLE UT Submission:
AF92-106943
USA 84037
DR. JAY CASPER Microfilm: NONE
368 REDWOOD DR
IDAHO FALLS ID Submission: AF96-112195
USA 83401
Casper, Dr Jay W
368 Redwood Dr
Idaho Falls, ID
83401-2948
(208) 523-4368
Notes for URSULA BLAKE:
Information here from
LDS submissions:
1.) Laura Ann MENARD
2905 Ben Stoutamire
Road Tallahassee FL 32310
2.) Karen HAMMER
3000 Moxadarla Road
Lot #50 Zanesville, Ohio 43701
Children of JACOB PERSINGER
and URSULA BLAKE are:
10. i. KENNETH A.8 PERSINGER,
b. 1801, Kanawha Co, VA; d. Jul 06, 1890, Putnam Co, WV; settled near Poca
River.
ii. NANCY PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1805, Kanawha Co. VA; m. JAMES HARRISON, Mar
15, 1827, Kanawha Co, VA; b. Abt. 1802, VA.
Notes for NANCY PERSINGER:
LDS submitters of this
information on Nancy Persinger, d/o Ursula Blake & Jacob Persinger:
MARY KATHRYN
LEEDING Microfilm: 1394002
2992 BORGE STREET
OAKTON VA Submission:
AF83-000419
USA 22124
DR. JAY CASPER Microfilm: NONE
368 REDWOOD DR
IDAHO FALLS ID Submission: AF96-110140
USA 83401
iii. JOHN PERSINGER, b. 1807, Kanawha Co. VA.
iv. JACOB PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1809, Kanawha Co, VA; m. ELIZABETH (?) PERSINGER, Dec
20, 1833; b. Abt. 1810.
v. MARGARET PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1811, Kanawha Co. VA.
11. vi. HELENA PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1812, Kanawha Co, VA.
12. vii. SARAH NEWTON PERSINGER, b. Feb 26, 1816, Kanawha Co, VA; d. Sep 25,
1889, Moroni, Sanpete, Utah - all from LDS rec..
4. LUKE *7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1783 in Virginia; came to IN w/ wife & St. Mo. abt. 1816, and died Jan 02,
1871 in Washington Co. IN- Jefferson Twp..
He married (1) ESTHER HULL Oct 26, 1806 in Kanawha Co. VA. She was born Abt. 1785 in name poss. Steel,
Hall, Stull ? -same as Step-Mom?, and died 1822 in presumably Washington Co.-
Luke's 1st wife & family. He married
(2) ELIZABETH * NEWSOM Mar 10, 1824 in Washington Co.IN Book A110-his
2nd mg, daughter of RICHARD NEWSOM and MARY NEWSOM. She
was born 1803 in Steubenville, Jefferson Co.,OH; see Notes, and died Aug 02,
1871 in Washington Co., IN (Will Book D, Pg. 501).
Notes for LUKE * PERSINGER:
October 1992: My first extension of Persinger knowledge
further back than my Great-Grandmother, Emma Harriet Persinger came from a
contact to George E. Persinger in
Seymour, IN (who later moved to Omaha, IL):
Luke came to Indiana from VA with his wife & Mother after his
father, John died. John had a half
brother named Henry and this is George E. Persingers direct ancestor (Not
Luke) However he is certain that Alfred
R. Persinger was the 1st child from Luke's 2nd wife Elizabeth (NEWSOM)
PERSINGER. Later information found at
the Historical Museum in Salem, IN (Jefferson Twp. cemetary records) shows Luke
and Elizabeth are buried together there.
I have visited and photographed the grave site at the Haley Cemetery and
found it very pretty but hard to get to and hard to find. There were 2 fawns in the small cemetary
which desperately tried to get out. Also
the Historical museum had an old gun and powder holder which the museum had
labeled as belonging to Luke Persinger, early Washington County Pioneer. The gun was allegedly made at the United
States Armory at Harper's Ferry between 1800-1820. The museum points out that Luke Persinger
was an early pioneer hunter & trapper to the county and is believed to have
arrived there about 1815 / 16. The
museum personnel seemed excited to show me these treasures and seemed happy to
see a Persinger descendant had come from far away to research the clan and they
were obviously proud of their work there.
I have had some researchers tell me that Luke had 3 wives instead of 2
but I have not been able to verify that or get a name other than NEWSOM &
HULL as the wives. - see notes on Elizabeth Newsom & her suspected
ancestry. One major source of confusion
is that Luke's father also had two wives and was having children the same time
that Luke was and further more Luke's Step-Mother (John's 2nd wife) had maiden
name STULL whereas Luke's 1st wife had maiden name HULL. Making many think that both women actually
probably had the same maiden name, but which name ?... also other names have
popped up with variations of STEELE
& STUHL... making the findings and assumptions very murky indeed.
It is important to note that Luke is on
the Kanawha Co, VA tax records nearly each year from 1807 thru and including 1815
! Also it is critical to note that Luke
is on the 1820 Washington Co, INdiana census - BUT the index listing is
MISSPELLED as PUrsinger, Luke (that's right -- a "U" not an
"E" as the 2nd letter in Persinger) - and is on that census at Page
208. This accounts for why many people
claim he is not found on the 1820 census anyplace !
There is much written about The known
Swiss-Germany immigrant, Jacob Persinger, Sr. (Bertschinger>
Perdschinger> Persinger) - who migrated to America at Philadelpia in 1735 on
the ship "Mercury" - but it is really not absolutely certain that
Luke is connected in the way I show on my family sheets in this genealogy
database = Jacob> Christopher >
John > Luke - mainly because there
was more than one John Persinger in the Virginia area at that time. It seems certain that Luke's father was a
John however, based on John's will mentioning Luke - others claim there was
also more that one around the 1770s-1800, but I have not found one.... but we
believe that both Jacob Jr. and Christopher had sons named John. - Every generation of mothers are just as
confusing. - and to make matters much
more confused, the Jacob Jr. who I don't show as Luke's Grandfather - but could
be our Luke's Grandfather, may have been an adopted child anyway and not even a
Persinger at all !! Thus my pessimism
pervades much of my own research and remarks on My father's Persinger line.
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Directions to the
Haley Cemetery:
HALEY CEMETERY, page
80, Jefferson Twp. Cemeteries
Located in SW 1/4,
Section 11, T3N, R3E. (10.5 miles from the Courthouse)
Directions: From the
Courthouse at Salem, go north on N. Main St. (SR 135) 7.0 miles to the
intersection of Walnut Ridge Road, turn left, go 3.2 miles to an old lane on
the left, turn left, follow the lane along the edge of the field, go 0.3 miles
to the Haley Cemetary. (This is four wheel drive territory) At the back side of
the field, the lane enters woods and makes a square corner to the right and
then the left, keep following the lane, and at what appears to be the end of
the lane, it turns left again; the cemetery is at the top of the rise on the
right.
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1st marriage
documentation: Early Kanawha Co.
Marriages, Registry I (1794-1826) - Luke Persinger married Esther HULL on 26 Oct 1806
Census Summary:
1810 - Kanawha Co, VA - Page 209 / 408 - This area is
NOW in West Virginia (and he is here on tax records from 1807-1815)
1820 - Washington Co,
IN - page 208 - spelled PURSINGER adjacent to Katherine PURSINGER, his presumed
Step-Mother.
1830 - "
- Pg. 342 / 682
1840 - "
- Pg. 173 / 170 - Monroe Twp.
1850 - "
- Pg. 390 - Monroe Twp.
1860 - "
- Pg. 169 - Jefferson Twp.
1870 - "
Pg. 29/ 79 - Jefferson Twp.
Census details:
Kanawha 1810 Census:
Pg.
Ln.
Males Females Other free Slaves
24
1 Persinger, Jacob 4 0 0
1 0 1
0 0 1
0 0 0
24
6 Persinger, John 2 2 2
0 1 2
1 0 0
1 0 4
19
6 Persinger, Luke 1 0 1
0 0 1
0 1 0 0 0 0
The above census shows
Luke, age group 16-25 (anticipated age 26?)
with only one male
child and he age 0-9, this is probably Elias age 2 or 3, further corroborating
story that Elias was Luke's child, but was he the Alabama migrant?
with one female child,
she age 0-9, this is probably Elizabeth, about age 1
and one female age
16-25, implying Esther, Luke's first wife.
This 1810 census is on
Page 408 and is 5 pages prior to the page his father, John & Brother Jacob
are on - Page 413.
NOTE: Kanawha county was formed in 1789 and was a
part of Virginia until 1863 when West Virginia separated from Virginia. It is important to note that by 1810, Luke
was quite a ways NW of Botetort County, VA, where we have presumed he was prior
to 1810.
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1820 Washington Co,
Indiana cenusus, Page 208, note both misspelled
Pursinger,
Katharine 208 020000
01001 200
Pursinger, Luke 208 210110
32110 300
The above 1820 census
shows the following at Luke's residence:
TWO adult males? - one age 18-25, and one
26-44, the eldest being Luke,
anticipated age then at 36. Then the
Females with Luke are THREE at ages
0-9, TWO ages 10-15, ONE age 16-18 &
ONE age 18-25.
The 2 digit for Katharine at the Right,
indicates 3 persons involved in Agriculture and 3 at Luke's residence in
agriculture. We assume this Katharine
was Luke's step-mother, John's 2nd wife.
Katharine shows at her residence: TWO males age 10-15, ONE female 10-15, and
Katharine > 45.
__________________________________________________________
Please note the short
letter of 1926 written about Luke's gun on the notes of John Freemont Wright in
this database.
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Personal Property Tax
records of Va. copied from originals in the State
Library, Richmond, Va.
by Don an dGloria Persinger, July, 1965
Persingers, Kanawha
County
1801 John, Jacob
1805 John, Jacob
1807 John Sr., Jacob, Luke
1809 John, Luke
1810 William, John, Luke
1811 Luke, Jacob, John (2) William (John prob
died after this)
1812 Luke, William, Jacob
1813 Luke, Michael, Jacob
1814 Benjamin, Jacob, Luke, Kathrine (This may
be our widow Catherine)
1815 Jacob, James, Kathrine, Michael, Benjamin,
Luke
1816 James, Benjamin, Jacob (No Luke or
Cathrine, gone to Indiana)
1817 Benjamin, Jacob, William, Michael
1818 William, Michael
1819 William, Jacob, Michael
1820 Michael, Jacob 3, William
More About LUKE * PERSINGER:
Burial: Haley
Cemetery, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Notes for ESTHER HULL:
There is one LDS
record showing her name as Elizabeth Ester HULL and another LDS record showing
her as Esther DOWNING.
More About ESTHER HULL:
Burial: Unknown -
appears to be on the 1820 census w. Luke
Notes for ELIZABETH * NEWSOM:
Luke's 2nd wife is
one. I always had the name Newsom until
I received a copy of a letter that Betty Jo Fletcher got from the Washington
Co. Historical Society re: Luke's gun and shot pouch donated by either a Wm. or
John Wright in 1928. It is mailed from
Dexter Missouri Nov. 1, 1928 and lists Wife Elizabeth as being a Haley or
Gullet. I strongly believe these two
surnames are in error, but they need to be considered since the overall
evidence is so murky. Luke &
Elizabeth both outlived the son that is my ancestor (Alfred R. Persinger) by 5 years. Elizabeth allegedly was of Irish
descent. See my NOTES on Elizabeth's
alleged Father Richard NEWSAM. (spelled
then with an A rather than an O.) Her
cemetary stone lists 1871 - Same year as husband Luke's death. I think there is strong evidence that
Elizabeth's maiden name was NEWSOM.
She is buried next to Luke in the Halley
cemetary and their tombstone states:
LUKE PERSINGER died
Jan. 2, 1871, aged 88 years
ELIZABETH PERSINGER
died Aug.2, 1871, aged 68 years.
More About ELIZABETH * NEWSOM:
Burial: Haley Cemetery
Event 1: Apparently
she was Scotch & German descent
Event 2: 1871, Both
Buried @ Haley Cem., Washington Co.IN
Children of LUKE PERSINGER and
ESTHER
HULL are:
13. i. ELIAS E.8 PERSINGER,
b. Sep 04, 1807, VA -it is possible Elias is Luke's Half-brother, not son??; d.
Dec 27, 1865, Northport, Alabama, Tuscaloosa Co.-or 12-27-1865.
14. ii. ELIZABETH PERSINGER, b. May 20, 1809, Virginia -1860 census
agrees on VA, but says 45 y.o.; d. Aug 15, 1885, Callaway Co, MO - but is she
really a Persinger or Smith?.
15. iii. BENJAMIN PERSINGER, b. Apr 06, 1811, Virginia; Note He md. 2
wives, Mary fr. Ohio; d. Jan 01, 1890, He may have also married a 3rd wife,
Martha West ?.
iv. KIMBERLAIN PERSINGER, b. Jul 30, 1813; d. did she really exist ?.
16. v. CHARLOTTE PERSINGER, b. Oct 04, 1815, Indiana; d. Aft. 1870,
probably in Missouri-was living alone by 1870.
17. vi. PHEBE PERSINGER, b. Feb 13, 1818, Indiana; d. Aft. 1880.
vii. EBENDER PERSINGER, b. May 15, 1820, this name may be Elender
(M or F?).
18. viii. CATHERINE E. PERSINGER, b. May 04, 1822, Indiana; d. Feb 13, 1892,
Washington County, IN.
Children of LUKE PERSINGER and
ELIZABETH NEWSOM are:
19. ix. ALFRED RICHARD *8 PERSINGER,
b. Jan 05, 1825, Washington Co, Indiana; d. Jul 01, 1866, Washington Co.,IN;
age 41.
x. WILLIAM PERSINGER, b. Sep 10, 1826, Indiana; d. Not certain of
his existence?.
xi. MARY ANN PERSINGER, b. Mar 17, 1828, Indiana; d. Mar 17, 1828,
Died at birth.
xii. NANCY D. PERSINGER, b. Aug 17, 1829, Never married ? -living
with brother Randall in 1880; d. Aft. 1880.
20. xiii. AMERICA JANE PERSINGER, b. Mar 16, 1831, Washington Co, IN - moved
to Clay Co, IL 1866; d. Feb 13, 1880, Louisville, Clay Co, IL -48 yrs, 10m
27d..
21. xiv. ISAIAH IRA PERSINGER, b. Dec 25, 1833, Indiana- I'm not convinced
any of these are his; d. Feb 18, 1863, Died @ Young's Pt., LA in Civil War
-Co.B,16th Reg.
22. xv. RANDALL W. PERSINGER, b. Nov 24, 1836, Washington Co, IN; d. Apr
15, 1914, bur. at Wheeler Cem., Washington Co, IN.
23. xvi. JAMES HAMILTON PERSINGER, b. Feb 07, 1838, Indiana - His 1st wife was
Rachel BOLING; d. Jan 18, 1885, Washington Co, Indiana.
24. xvii. SARAH ANN PERSINGER, b. Aug 20, 1839, Washington Co, IN; GrGM of
Mary Ewing; d. Sep 17, 1938, Washington Co, IN; 98 yrs.
25. xviii. ELIZA MATILDA PERSINGER, b. Nov 07, 1842, Washington Co, Indiana; d.
Jan 18, 1939, another source says D: 1938.
26. xix. MARY POLLY PERSINGER, b. Jun 12, 1847, IN; all census including
1900 verify 1847 BD; d. Dec 21, 1935, died @ 88 years old, bur. w Wm. Sr..
5. SARAH7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Oct 06, 1797 in Came to Indiana with brother Luke, and died Dec 16, 1836. She married JOHN MARTIN FULTZ Dec
16, 1819 in Roanoke, VA, son of JOHN FULTZ and SUSANNA SHUTZER. He
was born 1797, and died Jan 01, 1853.
More About SARAH PERSINGER:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem, Salem, Washington Co, IN
More About JOHN MARTIN FULTZ:
Burial: w. Sarah at
Crown Hill Cem, Salem, IN
Children of SARAH PERSINGER
and JOHN FULTZ are:
27. i. ELIZABETH8 FULTZ, b.
Jan 07, 1822, VA: name is spelled FULTS on the marriage; d. Nov 22, 1905,
Salem, IN -3 children per 1900 cen.
ii. GEORGE C. FULTZ, b. Oct 14, 1825, VA or IN?; may have also
married Mary E. TELLE ?; d. Apr 03, 1901, He was the Sheriff of Washington Co
1870; m. (1) MARY E. WRIGHT, Jul 15, 1857, Washington Co, IN - his 1st
marriage; b. Mar 18, 1816, Washington Co, IN; other BDs poss. to 1839; d. Jun
30, 1890, Near Canton, Washington Co, IN; m. (2) MARY ELIZABETH TELLE,
Jul 08, 1891, Washington Co, IN - his 2nd marriage; b. Aug 10, 1842; d. Aug 13,
1915.
Notes for GEORGE C. FULTZ:
1880:
George FULTZ Self
M Male W 54
VA Farmer And Sheriff VA PA
Mary FULTZ
Wife M Female W 60 IN Keeping House NC
NC
Source Information:
Census
Place Washington, Washington, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 535A
More About GEORGE C. FULTZ:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
Notes for MARY E. WRIGHT:
Mary's BD is all over
the place. In 1880 she claims only 6
years older than George at her 60, he 54.
Other sources show her born 1816, believe that comes from the cemetery
stone as it is the Richard Wright descendant database.
6. ANDREW ALEXANDER7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1799 in VA; Lois Downour's ancestor, and died Aft. 1880 in This work by Lois
Downour and Bev Bakos. He married (1) MARTHA PATSY MAYES Jun
04, 1821 in Mason Co, WV. She was born
Abt. 1803 in Or MAZE, and died 1855. He
married (2) MARY CHAPMAN Jan 30, 1860 in Mason Co, WV. She was born 1826 in she is his 2nd
wife-Chapman is prob. 1st marriage name.
Notes for ANDREW ALEXANDER
PERSINGER:
Note all the work
contained in my file on Andrew Alexander Persinger and all his descendants and
other connections, was sent to me by Lois Downour, November 2005 with much of
the credit for research and transcription attributed to Bev Bakos.
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1840 Census
record marriage license record
married Jan 4th 1821 Mason,co VA
Alexander Persinger
1 male ,under 5 James b,1839 is listed in 1850 with
parents Alexander and Martha
1 male,5-10 Unknown Male born bet 1830-1835
1 male 10-15 unknown male born bet 1825 -1830
2 males,15-20 Alexander II b, 1822 Ansel b,1824 listed in most census under
Ansel except 1880 LDS census which he is listed as Russell which is wrong and
whoever put it as Russell misstook it for Russell because in the real census if
one looks closely it is Ansell but could have been taken as Russell
1 male,40-50 Alexander b, 1799( Father)
1 female,under 5 Martha Susan b, 1836
1 female,5-10 Elizabeth A b,1834
1 female 10-15 unknown female born bet 1825-1830
1 female,40-50 Martha Patsy b, abt 1801(Mother)
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1850: w. wife Martha
and 5 children still at home ranging in age from 16 (Elizabeth) to 4 yrs. (Catherine).
census Va, Mason co,
38th district roll#M432_ 959, p, 385 B image 292, enumerated 16 Aug
1850(transcribed1998 by household#344/345 line #36
Bev Bakos,Mtn View,CA
Alexander Persinger,
51 ,m , Farmer ,VA, cannot read /write
Martha , 49 f, VA,
can't read /write
Elizabeth A, 16 ,f, Va
Martha S, 14,f , VA,
in school
James middle initial
could be F,or T, 11, m,, VA
Joseph 8 m, VA
Catharine, 4 ,f,
VA
Ancell and Alexander were
not in this census because Alexander married in 1847 and Ansel in 1849
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1860: Here he is still at Mason Co, VA, is 61
yr.old but with a wife Mary 33. All the
children don't fit but are labeled Persinger.
I suspect they are mostly Mary's children from an earlier marriage
and likely not really Alex's children.
PERSINGER, ALEX (1860 U.S. Census)
VIRGINIA , MASON,
HARTFORD CITY
Age: 61, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: VA
Series: M653 Roll:
1361 Page: 863
after Martha died IN 1855 this next census for
1860 is Alexander and second wife Mary Chapman,
1860 Census Mason co,
VA image #422 roll #M653_1361 dist#2
Hereford or Hareford post office pg #35 ancestry says pg #863
Alex Persinger 61 ,VA
Farmer
Mary 43 VA (this is his second wife Mary
Chapman)
James F 19
Rebecca 13
Joseph F 11
if you notice in this
census Joseph and James are listed in the 1850 census with Alexander and his
first wife Martha Patsy Maze also.
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PERSINGER,
ALEXANDER (1870 U.S. Census)
WEST VIRGINIA , MASON,
CLENDENIN TWP
Age: 74, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: VA
Series: M593 Roll:
1692 Page: 144
1870 Census West Virginia mason co, Clendenen
Twp,,Proctorville OH P,O .
# M593_1632 pg 144
Enumerated 24 July 1870 (transcribed Feb 2002 by Bev Bakos Mtn View CA)
182/184 Image #297
Persinger Alexander,
74 ,m, w, Laborer ,$___/150,VA can't read/write
Mary , 43 f, w ,
keeping house ,VA cant read/write
Chapman, Robt, 18, m,
w, Laborer, VA cant read/ write
Children of ANDREW PERSINGER
and MARTHA MAYES are:
28. i. JOHN ALEXANDER8 PERSINGER,
b. 1822, VA.
29. ii. ANSEL PERSINGER, b. 1825, VA -went by Russell, middle name.
iii. ELIZABETH A. PERSINGER, b. 1833, VA; m. JOHN HUGHES, May
13, 1852, Galliopolis, Gallia Co, OH; b. Abt. 1832.
30. iv. MARTHA SUSAN PERSINGER, b. Mar 18, 1837, VA; d. Jul 05, 1889, Mason
Co, WV.
v. JAMES F. PERSINGER, b. 1839, VA.
vi. JOSEPH F. PERSINGER, b. 1841, VA.
31. vii. MARY CATHERINE PERSINGER, b. 1846, Hogsett, Kanawha Co, WV.
viii. REBECCA PERSINGER, b. 1847, VA; m. MR. BALAY; b. Abt.
1845.
7. GEORGE7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 06, 1805 in VA-these children from the LDS website, and died Bet. 1842 -
1849 in Needs more proof these are his line.
He married (1) ELENDER GORDON Jul 26, 1826 in Washington Co, IN - or July
27. She was born Abt. 1806 in or Eleanor
JORDAN (probably not?). He married (2) CATHERINE "CATY" DOWNING
Mar 18, 1830 in Washington Co, IN, daughter of MICHAEL DOWNING and MRS. DOWNING. She was born Abt. 1807, and died Bet. 1833 -
1836. He married (3) ELIZABETH BAKER
Nov 17, 1836 in Washington Co, IN, daughter of HENRY BAKER and CATHERINE
AUSTIN. She was born 1818 in NC as in
1860 & 70 cen. or VA as in 1850 cen., and died Aft. 1870.
Notes for GEORGE PERSINGER:
These marriages are
all from Washington Co, and I assume all the same George Persinger, son of John
George, but I cannot be sure:
PERSINGER, GEORGE
to BAKER, ELIZABETH 11-17-1836
PERSINGER, GEORGE
to DOWNING, CATY 3-18-1830
PERSINGER, GEORGE
to JORDAN, ELEANOR
7-26-1826
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MARRIAGE:
Caty Downing George
Persinger 18 Mar 1830 Washington Co., IN
VERIFIED via Michael
DOWNING's will - deceased daughter Catherine (aka Caty) PERSINGER in 1851.
(Michael DOWNING, born
Ireland (b. abt 1769, d., Aft. May 24, 1851 Jackson Co., IN), formerly OF VA.
They
had, as well, migrated
to Jackson Co., IN at some point.)
PROBATE ORDER BOOK # 1
JANUARY 1853-1860
PAGES 250-251
At this time comes
into the Court JOHN DOWNING and proves to the satisfaction of the Court by two
competent and disinterested witnesses, that MICHAEL DOWNING lately deceased in
Jackson County, Indiana without leaving a widow, but left surviving him Grandchildren
as follows. To Wit: ELIZABETH ENGLAND, who is married to JOSEPH ENGLAND; MARY
WRINK, who is married to LAWSON WRINK, MARGARET WRINK who is married ELI WRINK;
GEORGE W. MAY; WILLIAM MAY; ELLEN CUMMINS, who is married to WILLIAM CUMMINS,
who were children of MARGARET MAY, who is now deceased and a daughter of the
said MICHAEL DOWNING deceased, and also the following Grandchildren To wit:
MARGARET PERSINGER; ANN PERSINGER; and MARTHA PERSINGER, who were children of
CATHERINE PERSINGER who is now deceased and the daughter of said MICHAEL
DOWNING deceased and also the following Grandchildren To Wit: AMER M. CAVENS,
who was daughter of ALEXANDER DOWNING who is now deceased and a son of the said
MICHAEL DOWNING deceased, and the following Children To Wit: JOHN DOWNING;
ANDREW DOWNING; GALLATIN DOWNING; ALBERT DOWNING; and PAUL DOWNING, being all
the Grandchildren and Children surviving the said MICHAEL DOWNING deceased and
who are all the persons entitled to share in the distribution of his estate. It
is also proved to the satisfaction of the Court that the said MICHAEL DOWNING
deceased is the identical person named in Military Land Warrant Number 4244
issued under the act of September 28th, 1850, which Warrant bears date the 24th
day of May, 1851 and that the same was in his possession at the time of his
death.
Respectfully
Re-Submitted/Quiried,
Sandra HUMPHRIES
RAEDEL
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I have not been able
to find George in any census except 1830.
His wherabouts and existence remain a mystery as of November 2005.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The LDS website has
this interesting family but no submitter shown - not even a county is shown,
only Indiana - but the key here is the wife, Elizabeth Baker, same as the
marriage we know in Washington Co, 1836 above:
George Persinger
Wife Elizabeth Baker
Children
1. Henry Persinger
Birth:
About 1837 , , Indiana
2. Catherine Persinger
Birth:
About 1839 , , Indiana
3. William L. Persinger
Birth: About 1841 , , Indiana
4. Elizabeth Persinger
Birth: About 1843 , , Indiana
I believe these come
from the 1850 census when these same 4 children, apparently orphaned are
living, with Nicholas Bottorff.... but I cannot find reasonable proof they are
George's children.
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Believe this is the
eldest shown here, Henry in 1860 living unmarried with a Nicholas Bottorff
family.
PERSINGER, HENRY (1860 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
WASHINGTON TWP
Age: 22, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M653 Roll: 306
Page: 219
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Then this unmarried
William L, 27 y.o. man in 1870 at Washington Twp, Washington Co, Salem PO and
he is living immediately next door to 30 y.o. Henry Persinger !... who I
presume is the brother shown above.
PERSINGER, WILLIAM
L (1870 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
WASHINGTON TWP
Age: 27, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M593 Roll: 369
Page: 203
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There is a William
Persinger, born about 1842 at Carr Twp, in Jackson Co, in 1880 and a son named
William H. Persinger
Wm. PERSINGER Self M Male W 37 IN Farmer IN IN
Mary PERSINGER
Wife M Female W 30 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Wm. H. PERSINGER Son S Male W 8 IN At
Home IN IN
Emma O. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 1 IN At
Home IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Carr, Jackson, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254286
NA
Film Number T9-0286
Page
Number 52B
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- then found that son
in 1900 same Twp. & County with widowed Mother Mary:
PERSINGER, MARY (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
CARR TWP
Age: 51, Female, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 378
Page: 38
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I cannot be sure of
course that these 2 William's, (one shown b.1841 from George, and one in 1880,
age 37, therefore born 1842/ 43), are the same but I cannot account for any
known parents of a William born near that time.
One confusing point is that neither this Henry nor William L. can be
found in 1850 or 1860 at Washington or Jackson Co, IN.
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These Persinger's
listed for Jackson Co, IN:
Persinger,
Darrell
3142 S County Road 740
W
Medora, IN 47260-9736
(812) 966-2513
Persinger, David
9075 E Foxhall Dr
Seymour, IN 47274-9292
(812) 523-2415
Persinger, Harold
L
8634 N Us Highway 31
Seymour, IN 47274-9772
(812) 445-3447
Persinger, Janet
5087 W County Road 440
N
Freetown, IN
47235-8522
(812) 497-0301
Persinger, Joseph
3270 N County Road 450
W
Freetown, IN
47235-8724
(812) 358-5203
Persinger, M K
Brownstown, IN 47220
(812) 358-2438
Persinger, Mark
4875 W County Road 440
N
Freetown, IN
47235-9522
(812) 497-0127
Persinger,
Matthew
361 E State Road 250
Brownstown, IN
47220-9619
(812) 358-5631
Persinger, Molly
K
196 E County Road 340
S
Vallonia, IN
47281-9739
(812) 358-5458
Persinger, Paul
5299 S County Road 925
W
Medora, IN 47260-8723
(812) 966-2120
Children of GEORGE PERSINGER
and CATHERINE DOWNING are:
i. MARGARET8 PERSINGER,
b. Abt. 1831.
ii. ANN PERSINGER PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1833.
iii. MARTHA PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1835.
Children of GEORGE PERSINGER
and ELIZABETH BAKER are:
32. iv. HENRY8 PERSINGER,
b. 1838, Indiana; d. Bet. 1880 - 1900, Probably Grayson Co, KY.
v. CATHERINE PERSINGER, b. 1839, Indiana.
33. vi. WILLIAM L. PERSINGER, b. 1842, Indiana; d. Bet. 1880 - 1900.
vii. ELIZABETH PERSINGER, b. 1843, Indiana.
8. HENRY7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Oct 26, 1807 in VA- ancestor of Geo. Persinger, and died Bet. 1856 - Jul 21
1860 in 3 daughts. shown w. Mary Ann are fr. 1860 cen.. He married (1) ELIZABETH REBECCA MAY Jan
04, 1824 in Washington Co, IN - bond Dec. 31, 1823. She was born 1808 in Did she divorce Henry ?,
and died Jul 26, 1833 in Washington Co, IN - bur. at Haley Cem.. He married (2) MARY ANN WESTON May 24,
1849 in Jackson Co, IN -Both of their 2nd marriage. She was born 1817 in IN; marriage records as
Western or Rester, and died Aft. 1880 in Henry Persinger is her 2nd husband-a
widow on 1870 census -.
Notes for HENRY PERSINGER:
Below is genealogist
who supplied me with some of my earliest leads to Luke, who was his ancestor,
Henry's half-brother. I talked to
George when he lived at Seymour, Indiana before moving to Illinois.
Persinger, George
2545 Washington Rd
Omaha, IL 62871-2021
Home: 618-962-3161
Work: 618-378-3323
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I have not been able
to find evidence of Henry's death, but it must be presumed to be before the
1860 census and within 9 months before the birth of the last child which
appears to be Nancy Ann who is presumed to be born about 1857-58... so the
period should be between 1856-1860.
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Another source of
trying to figure out the Henry Persinger line might be to locate some
descendents of his 2nd wife's first family, named ENGLAND.
Below are all the
listed England names near Medora, & Salem, IL which covers most of
Washington & Jackson Counties:
England, Betty
106 S George
Medora, IN 47260
(812) 966-2878
England, Charles
417 S Poplar St
Seymour, IN 47274-2958
(812) 523-1848
England, David
9546 W County Road 150
S
Medora, IN 47260-9788
(812) 966-2792
England, Earl
217 W Main
Medora, IN 47260
(812) 966-2779
England, I &
C
509 W Walnut St
Brownstown, IN
47220-1838
(812) 358-2432
England, James
2277 S Main St
Vallonia, IN
47281-9757
(812) 358-4804
England, Kelley
420 S Sugar St
Brownstown, IN
47220-2033
(812) 358-2543
England, Kenneth J
Jr
605 Moore St
Crothersville, IN
47229-1623
(812) 793-2914
England, Leslie
9100 W County Road 125
S
Medora, IN 47260-9768
(812) 966-2698
England, Pam
498 N County Road 350
W
Freetown, IN
47235-9733
(812) 358-5178
England, Allen B
6520 E Motsinger Rd
Pekin, IN 47165-8341
(812) 883-5574
England, Bill &
Jacquelyn
3793 W Mount Zion Rd
Salem, IN 47167-6422
(812) 883-3814
England, Craig more info
5425 E Elmer Martin Rd
Pekin, IN 47165-7147
(812) 967-5234
England, Dennis
5474 W Mount Carmel Rd
Fredericksburg, IN
47120-8625
(812) 472-3865
England, Diana
4190 S Cindy Ln
Salem, IN 47167-6077
(812) 896-1984
England, Jennifer
Pekin, IN 47165
(812) 883-6375
England, Ralph G
1392 S Southway Dr
Salem, IN 47167-7507
(812) 883-4203
England, Ricky
Salem, IN 47167
(812) 883-1029
England, Vicky
Salem, IN 47167
(812) 883-7402
Notes for ELIZABETH REBECCA MAY:
This was put on
Rootsweb Washington County, Indiana message board by Kathy Houx in 2001.
Elizabeth May married
Henry Persinger Jan.3,1924 and then married Joseph England May 11, 1843
Elizabeth and Joseph had five children. the first one was born before their
wedding date Whyle Green July 7, 1841 I don't know if this from a previous
marriage or what. I also have not found any more about Henry. Joseph and
Elizabeth were my gggrandparents. They were married in Jackson Co.
Then there are these
on the Indiana early marriages site both at Jackson County, Indiana:
ENGLAND, Joseph to
ANDERSON, Rebecca 3-13-1848
ENGLAND, Joseph to
PERSINGER, Elizabeth 5-11-1843
Houx, Jay D &
Kathy
216 E Cole Rd
Wheatland, WY
82201-8988
(307) 322-5175
Houx, Kathleen more info
Rio Dell, CA 95562
(707) 764-3262
More About ELIZABETH REBECCA MAY:
Burial: Haley
Cemetery, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Notes for MARY ANN WESTON:
ENGLAND, Henry J.
to WESTERN, Mary Ann
at Washington Co. 4-4-1839.
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There were other
Weston (or Western)-England couples at Washington Co in same era.:
George Western to
Rebecca England 1810-1892, married 7-26-1832
William W. Weston to
Louisa England 1824-1859, married 9-24-1840
See her on the 1850,
census with her 2nd husband, Henry Persinger on his scrapbook, and in Henry's
scrapbook for 1860 & 1870, even though he was dead by 1860. Shown this way for consistency.
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1880:
Mary A. PERSINGER Self W Female W 60 IN Keeping House
PA TN
Collumbus ENGLAND Son S Male W 40 IN Carpenter
IN IN
Marion ENGLAND
Son S Male W 35 IN Engineer
IN IN
Sarah P. RESTER Dau W Female W 27 IN Housekeeper
IN IN
Nancy SIMPSON
Dau
W Female W 23 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Willie M. SIMPSON Son S Male W 5 IN IN IN
Stephen RESTER
Nephew S Male W 2 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 437C
I'm presuming the
RESTER name is actually Mary Ann's maiden name of WESTON, however her marriage
record allegedly shows Western. Suppose
any of the 3 names could be the correct one.
I'm sticking with Weston til better sources - mainly due to the fact that
there are many males named Weston nearby from 1850 on- They are likely brothers
of Mary Ann. I see no one named Rester or Western except those living with Mary
Ann.
Child of HENRY PERSINGER
and ELIZABETH MAY is:
34. i. JOHN8 PERSINGER,
b. Mar 1824, Indiana -per death certificate 92 y.o.; d. Jan 30, 1916, Madison,
IN, Madison St. Hospital; Brownstown Cem..
Children of HENRY PERSINGER
and MARY WESTON are:
ii. SARAH8 PERSINGER,
b. 1851, Indiana; d. Aft. 1870; m. MR. RESTER; b. Abt. 1850.
35. iii. MARTHA ELLEN PERSINGER, b. 1856, Indiana- prob. w/o Wm.D.Thompson;
d. Bet. 1880 - 1891.
36. iv. NANCY ANN PERSINGER, b. 1857, Indiana; d. Aft. 1880.
9. MARTHA "MATTIE"7 PERSINGER (JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 17, 1809 in VA-ancestor of Jean Cummings, and died Jan 14, 1860 in Cedar
Co, IA. She married PRESTON GEORGE DOWNING Nov
23, 1826 in Botetourt Co, VA. He was
born 1806 in Virginia, and died Jun 02, 1881 in Iowa.
Notes for PRESTON GEORGE DOWNING:
DOWNING, PRESTON (1860 U.S. Census)
IOWA , CEDAR, PIONEER
TWP
Age: 50, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: VA
Series: M653 Roll: 314
Page: 229
From the above census
in August 1860, it appears he remarried within 6 months after Mattie died, and
had two children by the new wife.
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DOWNING, PRESTON (1870 U.S. Census)
IOWA , CEDAR, PIONEER
TWP
Age: 60, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: VA
Series: M593 Roll: 380
Page: 309
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1880, with 2nd wife
and children with her:
Preston DOWNING Self M Male W 72 VA Farmer IRE IRE
Margaret DOWNING Wife M Female W 48 OH Keeping House
PA PA
George DOWNING
Son S Male W 19 IA Farm Laborer
VA OH
Olive DOWNING
Dau S Female W 17 IA At Home
VA OH
Source Information:
Census
Place Pioneer, Cedar, Iowa
Family
History Library Film 1254331
NA
Film Number T9-0331
Page
Number 4C
Children of MARTHA PERSINGER
and PRESTON DOWNING are:
i. AMANDA8 DOWNING,
b. Sep 01, 1827, Washington Co, IN; d. Apr 25, 1898, Des Moines, IA; m. DAVID PLATNER; b.
Abt. 1826.
ii. ELIZABETH L. DOWNING, b. Jul 29, 1829, Washington Co, IN; d. Jul
07, 1868, Nevada, IA; m. PHILO DAVID HUMPHREY; b. Abt. 1828.
iii. NANCY DOWNING, b. Nov 27, 1830, Washington Co, IN; d. May
14, 1902; m. ANDREW ANDRE; b. Abt. 1830.
iv. WILLIAM DOWNING, b. Apr 22, 1832; d. Jun 12, 1844.
37. v. MARY DOWNING, b. Nov 07, 1833, Washington Co, IN- Jean
Cummings' G-GM; d. Jan 29, 1911, Mechanicsville, IA.
vi. JAMES MADISON DOWNING, b. Sep 15, 1835, Washington Co, IN; d. Oct
22, 1913; m. ELIZABETH PIERCE; b. Abt. 1836.
vii. ELIAS BENJAMIN DOWNING, b. Dec 15, 1837; d. Aug 1844.
viii. ISAAC THOMAS DOWNING, b. Feb 20, 1839, Washington Co, IN; d. Feb
24, 1905; m. HENRIETTA KAIZER; b. Abt. 1840.
ix. SALLY "SARAH" ANN DOWNING, b. Mar 24, 1841; d. Jun 27, 1842.
x. JOSEPH BENTON DOWNING, b. Mar 24, 1843, near Lisbon, IA; d. Dec 21,
1926, Pipestone, MN; m. OLIVE WILSON; b. Abt. 1844.
xi. HENRY ALDEN DOWNING, b. Oct 30, 1845, IA- or Oct. 4, 1844?; d. Oct
22, 1913; m. ISABELLE KISER; b. Abt. 1846.
xii. JOHN ANDREW DOWNING, b. Apr 05, 1847, IA; d. Dec 05, 1923; m. RACHAEL EMILIE KELLY; b.
Abt. 1848.
Generation No. 3
10. KENNETH A.8 PERSINGER (JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1801 in Kanawha Co, VA, and died Jul 06, 1890 in Putnam Co, WV; settled near
Poca River. He married LUCINDA REYNOLDS
Apr 07, 1831 in Kelly's Creek, Kanawha Co, VA, daughter of CHARLES REYNOLDS
and SARAH HORNICKLE. She was born 1808 in
VA, and died Dec 19, 1891 in Putnam Co, WV.
Notes for KENNETH A. PERSINGER:
Most of the
information I have here on Kenneth Persinger comes from LDS records, none from
my own research - there are various submitters
Children of KENNETH PERSINGER
and LUCINDA REYNOLDS are:
i. MARGARET9 PERSINGER,
b. 1831; m. PAUL DICKINSON, 1860; b. Abt. 1830.
ii. URSULA PERSINGER, b. 1833; m. HARRISON PAINTER, Dec 24, 1857,
Kanawha Co, VA; b. Abt. 1830.
38. iii. MARY CATHERINE PERSINGER, b. 1834.
39. iv. SARAH JANE PERSINGER, b. Mar 15, 1840, Or Sally; d. Apr 03, 1931,
Ogden, UT.
v. CHARLES PERSINGER, b. 1841; m. EMILY HILL, Apr 25, 1861, Kanawha
Co, VA; b. Abt. 1842.
vi. ANDERSON PERSINGER, b. 1844; m. MS. GOLF, 1863, Kanawha Co, VA; b.
Abt. 1845.
40. vii. RACHEL PERSINGER, b. 1847; d. 1918, Bur. Clark Cem, Kelly's
Crk, Sissonville.
viii. LUCINDA PERSINGER, b. Jul 04, 1851, Or 1851; d. Mar 30, 1917;
m. DAVID WILKINSON, May 02, 1866, Kanawha Co, VA; b. Abt. 1845.
ix. MELISSA PERSINGER, b. Dec 12, 1856; m. THOMAS BRITTON, Mar
11, 1871, Kanawha Co, WV; b. Abt. 1847.
11. HELENA8 PERSINGER (JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Abt. 1812 in Kanawha Co, VA. She married
GUSTAVUS FERDINAND SHEPHERD 1843 in Kanawha Co, VA - now part of
WV. He was born Abt. 1810.
Child of HELENA PERSINGER
and GUSTAVUS SHEPHERD is:
i. NANCY JANE9 SHEPHERD,
b. Abt. 1848; m. WILLIAM YOUNG, 1868, Kanawha County, WV (then was prob. VA);
b. Abt. 1848.
12. SARAH NEWTON8 PERSINGER (JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 26, 1816 in Kanawha Co, VA, and died Sep 25, 1889 in Moroni, Sanpete, Utah
- all from LDS rec.. She married CHARLES REYNOLDS
Mar 17, 1831 in Charleston, WV. He was
born Abt. 1812.
Children of SARAH PERSINGER
and CHARLES REYNOLDS are:
i. LUCINDA9 REYNOLDS,
b. Jun 1832, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1851.
ii. NANCY ELIZABETH REYNOLDS, b. Mar 22, 1834, Kanawha Co, WV; d. Nov 07,
1903.
iii. JOHN REYNOLDS, b. 1836, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1841, About 5
yrs. old.
iv. HESIKIAH COSTALO REYNOLDS, b. 1841, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1860, Civil War
death.
41. v. MARGARET FRANCIS REYNOLDS, b. May 26, 1844, Kanawha Co, WV; d. Aug 10,
1918, Moroni, Sanpete, UT - all from LDS records.
vi. CHARLES REYNOLDS, b. 1846, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1880.
vii. ISAAC ANDERSON REYNOLDS, b. Sep 08, 1849, Kanawha Co, WV; d. Jan 30,
1904, Moroni, Sanpete, UT.
viii. GEORGE HENRY REYNOLDS, b. 1851, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1878.
ix. CIDNEY REYNOLDS, b. 1852, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1855, 3 yrs.
old.
x. MARY ANN REYNOLDS, b. 1854, Kanawha Co, WV; d. 1855, 1 yr. old.
13. ELIAS E.8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Sep 04, 1807 in VA -it is possible Elias is Luke's Half-brother, not son??, and
died Dec 27, 1865 in Northport, Alabama, Tuscaloosa Co.-or 12-27-1865. He married (1) LOUISA SMITH CURLING Sep
20, 1835 in Tuscaloosa, Alabama; or 1838 ?, daughter of GEORGE CURLING and
ANN
HENRICKSEN. She was born Oct 10, 1818 in
SC or Alabama?, and died Jul 31, 1859 in AL; family is on 1860 Tuscaloosa Co,
census w/o Louisa. He married (2) MARTELIA JANE FREEMAN Jun
09, 1862, daughter of JESSE FREEMAN and REBECCA FREEMAN. She
was born Sep 01, 1831 in Fayette Co, Alabama; Elias' 2nd wife, and died Aug 20,
1916 in Jefferson Co, Alabama; Volume 20, Cert.346, Roll 1.
Notes for ELIAS E. PERSINGER:
1830 there are no
Persinger names listed in Tuscaloosa Co, Alabama.
1840 Census: Alabama,
Tuscaloosa Co.; M704-16, p. 228, Ancestry Image 75 of 124 (transcribed Sept
2002 by Bev Bakos, Mtn. View, CA)
Persinger, Elias
1 male, 30-40
<Elias>- who should be about 32-33
1 female, under 5
<Maryetta>
1 female, 20-30
<Louisa>
1850 Census: Alabama,
Tuscaloosa Co., District No. 2; M432-16, SH 212A;
Enumerated 14 Nov 1850
(transcribed Aug 2002 by Bev Bakos, Mtn. View, CA,
from Ancestry Image 40
of 148) - Page 212A
264/264
Elias Persinger, 43;
m; Ware House Keeper, $5500; VA
Louisa, 32; f; AL
Maryetta, 10; f; AL; in school
John, 5; m; AL
Elias I/J?, 1; m; AL
1860 - they are
misspelled in this transcription, but the actual census appears correct to me
and Elias is the only adult. Louisa
must have died by 1860. This is also the only source for a middle initial for
him = "E".
CENSUS YR: 1860
TERRITORY: AL COUNTY:
Tuscaloosa DIVISION: FOSTERS
REEL NO: M653-25 PAGE NO:
709
4
870 911 Persenger Elias E 52 M whse.kpr 5,000
13,328 VA
5
870 911 Persenger John C 14 M
AL
6 870 911
Persenger Edwin J 12 M
AL
7
870 911 Persenger Abner B 9 M AL
8
870 911 Persenger Walter S 7 M
AL
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MENTELA JANE PERSINGER
daughter of Rev. Jesse and Rebecca Freeman, born Fayette Co., Ala., Sept. 1,
1831; married Elias Persinger (died Dec. 27, 1865), June 9, 1862; two children,
one stepdaughter and four stepsons.
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U.S. Census > 1870
United States Federal Census > Alabama > Fayette > Township 16, Handy
PO, Page 442:
140/140 Freeman, Jesse
60 M
W Farmer 800
600 GA
Rebecca 60 F W
Keeping house GA
Martela 39 F
W Ala
Fannen 32 F
W Ala
Windfield 16 M W
Ala
Jesse 9
M W Ala
Elen 5
F W Ala
This explains were
Winfield, his two younger half-Sibs and step-mother were in 1870 and why they
are not indexed - because the census taker didn't get the fact that they were
Persinger names not Freeman. Note also
that Fayette Co, AL is immediately North, adjacent to Tuscaloosa Co. This and 1880 census sheet images, I'm
showing in Elias Srs' scrapbook for the sake of consistency as long as the
children are with Martelia.
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1880:
Percy TRAWEEK
Self M Male W
38 AL Farmer
GA GA
Francanna TRAWEEK Wife
M Female W
41 AL Keeping House GA
GA
Edward TRAWEEK Son
S Male W
7 AL GA
GA
Jesse FREEMAN
FatherL M Male
W 74 GA
GA GA
Rebecca FREEMAN MotherL
M Female W
78 GA GA
GA
Martelu PERSINGER SisterL
W Female W
47 AL GA
GA
Jesse PERSINGER Nephew
S Male W
17 AL Laborer
AL AL
Ella PERSINGER Niece
S Female W
14 AL At Home
AL AL
Source Information:
Census Place Township 16, Holly Springs,
Fayette, Alabama
Family History Library Film 1254013
NA Film Number T9-0013
Page Number
493A
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As of 2005, I cannot
find any Persinger names listed in phone directories of the Northport area.
--------------------------------
GEORGE A. PERSINGER
son of Elias and Louisa Persinger, died Northport, Ala., Sept. 20, 1849 in the
8th year of his age.
-----------------------------------
November 2005, I
received emails from Chuck Gerdau at the local historical group, Friends of
Historic Northport - their website:
www.friendsofhistoricnorthport.org
Chuck has written me
quite a bit of history on the Elias Persinger family-
"Elias was a
charter member of Northport Methodist Church in 1837, so that put the
Persingers back that early.
Elias placed a survey
marker in 1858 that still stands today in downtown Northport. He built a cotton warehouse in Northport in the
1830's"
---------------------------
I'm told that he is
buried at the Greenwood Cemetery at Tuscaloosa Co, AL and that it states his DD
is Dec. 27, 1865
Notes for LOUISA SMITH CURLING:
The only Curling on
the 1830 census index for Tuscaloosa County is a George CURLING. I don't have that census nor do I have even
an index for the 1820 or 1840 census. I
don't find him on the 1850 or 1860 census there. I see a query regarding a daughter of his
named Catherine or Caroline who married a man named Boyle. Also, on the 1910 census her son, Albert
Benjamin says his Mother was born in South Carolina instead of Alabama.
Notes for MARTELIA JANE FREEMAN:
Obituary Below
from:
GENEALOGICAL ABSTRACTS
FROM REPORTED DEATHS
THE NASHVILLE,
TENNESSEE CHRISTIAN ADVOCATE 1915–1919; 1929
By Jonathan Kennon
Thompson Smith
Copyright, Jonathan K.
T. Smith, 2003
Official periodical of
the Methodist Episcopal Church, South
MENTELA JANE PERSINGER daughter of Rev.
Jesse and Rebecca Freeman, born Fayette Co., Ala., Sept. 1, 1831; married Elias
Persinger (died Dec. 27, 1865), June 9, 1862; two children, one stepdaughter
and four stepsons.
At first I assumed
this meant she died near Nashville, TN, but I've added the statement shown on
the website where the above was found, which clearly implies it could be from
anyplace in the South. Seems odd that it
doesn't tell where she died. I do know
she was at Fayette Co, AL in 1900, so I'm wondering if they've mixed that up in
the transcription. ed/ AG
----------------------------------------------------------------------
in 1900, she is shown
Widowed, with 2 children only one living then.
I assume that child is from an earlier marriage than to Elias ?
PERSINGER,
MARTELIA (1900 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , FAYETTE,
BYLOR
Age: 69, Female, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: T623 Roll: 16
Page: 113
Children of ELIAS PERSINGER
and LOUISA CURLING are:
42. i. MARYETTA9 PERSINGER,
b. Aug 19, 1839, Tuscaloosa Co, Alabama; prob. Northport; d. Mar 17, 1885,
Northport, AL; She was Thomas' 1st wife.
ii. GEORGE A. PERSINGER, b. 1841, Alabama; d. Sep 20, 1849,
Northport, Alabama, died age 8yr..
Notes for GEORGE A. PERSINGER:
GEORGE A. PERSINGER son
of Elias and Louisa Persinger, died Northport, Ala., Sept. 20, 1849 in the 8th
year of his age.
43. iii. JOHN C. PERSINGER, b. 1845, AL-middle name probably Curling
(for Mother)?; d. Aft. Apr 1910, living at Dallas, Texas on 1910 census w. no
children shown.
44. iv. ELIAS INDIANA PERSINGER, M.D., b. Apr 15, 1849, Northport, AL; prob. had one child,
Ida, d/o Ida; d. Jun 28, 1933, living at Mansfield, LA in 1900-20; Physician.
45. v. ALBERT BENJAMIN PERSINGER, b. May 07, 1851, Northport, AL; Abner on
1860 Cen.; d. Apr 19, 1932, Nebraska; lived between Lodgepole & Chappel,
Nebraska.
vi. WINFIELD SCOTT PERSINGER, b. Jun 07, 1853, Northport, AL; April on
1900 cen.; named Walter on 1860 cen.; d. Jul 17, 1935, Tuscaloosa Co;living w.
Niece Lula Christian 1900-20.
Notes for WINFIELD SCOTT PERSINGER:
See him on 1900 census
living with Lula, wife of George Christian. Lula is Winfield's niece, daughter of his
sister, MaryEtta.
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November 2005, I
received emails from Chuck Gerdau at the local historical group, Friends of
Historic Northport - their website:
www.friendsofhistoricnorthport.org
Chuck has written me
quite a bit of history on the Elias Persinger family- this about Winfield,
often seen only as initials W. S.
"I'm going back
through Winfield Persinger data, which is not terribly much. He was the first Northport historian, and if
it was not for him a lot of the early info would be lost. He lived for years at the Christian Home,
where after his death his history notes were found in the home.
Winfield is buried at
Greenwood Cemetery, across the river in Tuscaloosa. Greenwood is the oldest
cemetery in Tuscaloosa and was set aside when the city was 'laid out' in
1821. Why he was buried there and not in
Williamson Cemetery in Northport I do not know.
He was not married that I know of, leaving no children. Although he documented the history, he did
not document his own very well. He owned
the first auto in Northport and the first license in 1905. The Christian family was very well off. In fact, they refurbished the Christian Home
(later Shirley Place) in the 1930's during the height of the Great
Depression."
vii. CHARLES BREWER PERSINGER, b. Jul 30, 1855, Northport, AL; d. Jul 11,
1856, 11 months old.
Children of ELIAS PERSINGER
and MARTELIA FREEMAN are:
46. viii. JESSE C.9 PERSINGER, REV., b. Apr 1863,
Alabama; d. Nov 09, 1953, Jefferson Co, AL; could 1953 be his son ?At
Jacksonville, AL- Calhoun Co. 1930.
ix. ELLEN PERSINGER, b. 1866, Alabama; d. Bet. 1880 - 1900,
Martelia reports only one child alive 1900.
14. ELIZABETH8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 20, 1809 in Virginia -1860 census agrees on VA, but says 45 y.o., and died
Aug 15, 1885 in Callaway Co, MO - but is she really a Persinger or Smith?. She married ALFRED RICHARD NEWSOM in
This wife of Alfred may be Elizabeth Smith?, son of RICHARD NEWSOM and
MARY
NEWSOM. He was born 1805 in Ohio- these
are Eric Newsom's ancestors, and died Feb 10, 1879 in Callaway Co. MO; arr.
there by 1837.
Notes for ELIZABETH
PERSINGER:
NEWSOM, ALFRED R (1860 U.S. Census)
MISSOURI , CALLAWAY,
18-DIST
Age: 55, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: OH
Series: M653 Roll: 610
Page: 784
Notes for ALFRED RICHARD NEWSOM:
1860
> Missouri >
CALLAWAY > 18-DIST
Series: M653 Roll: 610 Page: 784
NEWSOM
ALFRED R 55 M W OH
Children of ELIZABETH
PERSINGER and ALFRED NEWSOM are:
i. AMANDA9 NEWSOM, b.
Abt. 1832.
ii. MARY ANN NEWSOM, b. Oct 21, 1835.
iii. GEORGE WALLACE NEWSOM, b. Feb 27, 1841, MO.
Notes for GEORGE WALLACE NEWSOM:
In 1860 George W. is
shown living with Benjamin Persinger in Indiana after his parents moved West to
Callaway Co, MO, but he says he was born
at Missouri, so he must have just come back to work on Uncle's farm, as
he is listed as Farm Laborer.
1860
> Indiana >
WASHINGTON > JEFFERSON TWP Series: M653 Roll: 306
Page: 172
NEWSOME GEO W 19
M
W
MO
iv. JOHN WILLIAM NEWSOM, b. Nov 15, 1845.
v. MARGRET NEWSOM, b. 1842.
vi. MATILDA NEWSOM, b. 1851.
vii. JAMES NEWSOM, b. 1854.
15. BENJAMIN8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 06, 1811 in Virginia; Note He md. 2 wives, Mary fr. Ohio, and died Jan 01,
1890 in He may have also married a 3rd wife, Martha West ?. He married (1) MARTHA WEST. She was born Abt. 1814 in This is a
questionable 2nd or 3rd wife for Benjamin.
He married (2) MARY NEWSOM Feb 10, 1831 in Washington Co, IN. She was born 1818 in Prob. Ohio, some records
show her dying 1895, and died Sep 23, 1895 in Neely Cem; uncertain if Mary is
sister of Ben's Step-Mother Elizabeth.
He married (3) MARY RAYHILL Jun 11, 1835 in Washington Co.IN, daughter of
MATTHEW
RAYHILL and CATHERINE WOLFE. She was
born 1807 in OhioConfusion regarding his Mary's, maybe she died 1895, and died
Sep 20, 1904 in Confusion regarding his Mary's, maybe she died 1895.
Notes for BENJAMIN
PERSINGER:
PERSINGER BENJAMIN NEWSOM MARY Washington 2-10-1831
PERSINGER BENJAMIN RAYHILL MARY Washington 6-11-1835
I'm not sure if this
Benjamin is the same. If they are the
same, then I probably have had Sarah Mariah's mother as a Newsom but the census
records from 1850 on, showing Mary was probably Mary Rayhill, yet they had a
Newsom living with them in 1860. Sarah
was born 1837, so I assume Mary Rayhill is the correct mother. Til I have better data, I'll go ahead and
show Benjamin with these two wives and have found a 3rd possible one, Martha
West. Will also show Sarah Maria as d/o
Mary Rayhill.
Here he is 49 y.o. in
1860 with wife Mary Newsom; also her nephew, George W. Newsom is living with
them as a farm laborer.
1860
> Indiana >
WASHINGTON > JEFFERSON TWP Series: M653 Roll: 306
Page: 172
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1880:
Benjamin PERSINGER Self M Male W 67 VA Carpenter
VA VA
Mary PERSINGER
Wife M Female W 68 OH Keeping House
IRE PA
Mary J. FINNEY
Other S Female W 55 IN House Keeper
PA PA
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 436B
More About BENJAMIN
PERSINGER:
Burial: 2nd wife maybe
Mary RAYHILL
Notes for MARY NEWSOM:
Benjamin and his two
wives named Mary are a confusing bunch.
It is well documented at Washington Co, that a Benjamin Persinger
married 1st a Mary NEWSOM in 1831 and a
Mary RAYHILL in 1835. But then records show Mary Newsom buried at
Neely Cem, with her death on Sept. 23, 1895.
And Mary Rayhill dying 1904 and buried at the Haley Cem, where Luke
& Elizabeth are buried... strange as she was not a Newsom. So, have always wondered if there are two
Benjamin Persingers (maybe one is Luke's brother and one his son?) similar to
the problem of two Elias Persingers, which has still never been proven. To further complicate things, I can't find a
Neely Cemetery - there are two McNeely Cemeteries, one so old no one is written
about there to know who, if anyone is there, the other one doesn't mention
anyone like Mary.
Obituary for Mary that
dated in Reblican Leader Newspaper edition Sept. 27th, 1895.
Notes for MARY RAYHILL:
Her surname is also
shown with an E on the end: Newsome
More About MARY RAYHILL:
Burial: believe 2nd
wife, Mary died Sept. 20, 1904
Child of BENJAMIN PERSINGER
and MARY RAYHILL is:
47. i. SARAH MARIAH9 PERSINGER,
b. May 12, 1837, Indiana -only child of Benjamin & Mary Polly; d. Apr 25,
1919, need her Obit & Death Certificate.
16. CHARLOTTE8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Oct 04, 1815 in Indiana, and died Aft. 1870 in probably in Missouri-was living
alone by 1870. She married (1) JOHN LUMLEY Jan
21, 1840 in Washington Co, IN- marriage records D-58. He was born 1802 in KY, and died Jun 1857 in
Andrew Co, MO. She married (2) WILLIAM VAN BUSKIRK Abt.
1858 in Between 1855-1860. He was born
1834 in Ohio -or surname may be written all as one word.
Notes for CHARLOTTE
PERSINGER:
1850: It would appear that the census taker either
mixed up the mother's name with the eldest daughters (Mariah & Charlotte)
or perhaps Moriah was Charlotte's middle name, but clearly this is Charlotte
Persinger Lumley's family.
Census: 1850, Nodaway
Township, Andrews County, Missouri, p. 294/4
John Lumly
48 MW farmer $285
Ky
Moriah
37 FW IN
Charlotte
7 FW MO
Sarah 3 FW MO
?ric
1/12 MW MO
--------------------------------------------------
1860: with new
husband, Wm. VanBuskirk, who is much younger than Charlotte, he 26 & she 43
!
MISSOURI , ANDREW Co,
NODAWAY Twp.
Series: M653 Roll: 605
Page: 270
----------------------------------------------------
1870:
without William here -
did he die young ? .. doens't tell us what happened to him, but some of her
Lumley children are still with her.
VANBUSKIRK,
CHARLOTTE (1870 U.S. Census)
MISSOURI , ANDREW,
LINCOLN TWP
Age: 53, Female, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M593 Roll: 755
Page: 222
Notes for JOHN LUMLEY:
This marriage below
found on Andrew Co, MO genweb but don't know if is a son or brother to John.
Lumley, Henry J.
married Vanbuskirk, Catherine on 18 Oct 1849
Then a 2nd marriage,
but Katherine is not on the 1850 or 60 census with Charlotte:
William C Smith Katherine Lumley Mar 1, 1863
Children of CHARLOTTE
PERSINGER and JOHN LUMLEY are:
i. MARIAH9 LUMLEY, b.
1843, Missouri; d. Aft. 1860.
48. ii. SARAH ANN LUMLEY, b. Jul 01, 1847, Missouri- ancestor of Betty
Crockett; d. Aft. 1910, lived at Holt Co, MO; later married Marion's bro.
David.
iii. NERIE LUMLEY, b. 1850, Missouri; d. Aft. 1870.
49. iv. CHRISTINA LUMLEY, b. 1851, Missouri- ancestor of Billie Carter
Peery; d. 1918, lived at Andrew Co, MO, then to Ray Co, MO.
v. SUSANNAH LUMLEY, b. 1854, Missouri; d. Aft. 1870; m. WILLIAM R ELLEDGE,
Jun 03, 1871, Andrew Co, MO; b. Abt. 1854.
Notes for SUSANNAH LUMLEY:
This is presumed to be
the daughter of Charlotte Persinger found in Andrew County marriage records:
3011 William
R Elledge to
Susan J Lumly 3
Jun 1871
vi. BETTY LUMLEY, b. Abt. 1856, Missouri.
vii. PHEBE LUMLEY, b. 1856, Missouri; d. Aft. 1870.
17. PHEBE8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 13, 1818 in Indiana, and died Aft. 1880.
She married JOHN CHAMBERS, JR. Jan 21, 1838 in Washington Co, IN - marriage book
D-12, son of JOHN CHAMBERS and SALLY JOHNSON. He
was born Apr 04, 1819 in Indiana - see notes on Phebe, and died Aft. 1880 in
Iowa.
Notes for PHEBE PERSINGER:
1860 - cannot find he
or Luke this year
1870 >
Iowa > MILLS
Co. > SILVER CRK TWP Series: M593 Roll: 411
Page: 95
CHAMBERS JOHN 50 M W IN
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1880:
John CHAMBERS
M Male 60 IN Farmer
Phoebe CHAMBERS M Female 61 IN Keeping
House
Mary A. CHAMBERS S Female 21 IA
Nelson CHAMBERS S Male 17 IA Farming
Danel BRYAN
S Male 2 TN Farm Hand
Source Information:
Census
Place Center, Mills, Iowa
Family
History Library Film 1254356
Page
Number 347D
Children of PHEBE PERSINGER
and JOHN CHAMBERS are:
50. i. LUKE PERSINGER9 CHAMBERS,
b. Dec 1838, Indiana; d. Aft. 1920, at Council Bluffs, IA 1900-20 -
Pottawattamie Co..
ii. FRANK CHAMBERS, b. 1854, Iowa.
iii. CLARISSA CHAMBERS, b. 1856, Iowa.
iv. MARY A. CHAMBERS, b. 1858, Iowa; d. Aft. 1880.
v. NELSON CHAMBERS, b. 1862, Iowa; d. Aft. 1880.
18. CATHERINE E.8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 04, 1822 in Indiana, and died Feb 13, 1892 in Washington County, IN. She married DAVID HALEY Jan 23, 1839. He was born 1808 in North Carolina; Or born
1812?, and died Mar 26, 1874 in Washington County, IN; bur. Haley Cem..
More About CATHERINE E. PERSINGER:
Burial: Haley Cem.
Notes for DAVID HALEY:
Note the 1870 census
here on Luke Persinger's scrapbook showing David age 59 and large family still
with he and Catherine.
More About DAVID HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem.
Children of CATHERINE
PERSINGER and DAVID HALEY are:
51. i. ELIAS RICHARD9 HALEY, b.
Sep 19, 1842; d. Sep 15, 1893, Buried @ Haley Cem. Washington Co..
52. ii. MARGARET ESTHER HALEY, b. Oct 24, 1844, Indiana; d. Dec 19, 1904, they
are bur. at Rice/ Covenanter Cem..
53. iii. LUKE W. HALEY, b. Dec 13, 1845, IN- or 1846, per 1900 census;
d. Aug 29, 1914.
iv. ELIZABETH J. HALEY, b. 1849, Indiana.
54. v. HENRY JACIN HALEY, b. Feb 20, 1853, Indian; this may be 1858; d.
Nov 01, 1910, Buried @ Haley Cem. Washington Co..
55. vi. JOHN PERRY HALEY, b. Feb 11, 1855, Indiana; d. Sep 10, 1927.
56. vii. JAMES E. HALEY, b. Feb 19, 1857, Indiana; d. Feb 20, 1895,
Washington Co..
viii. BENJAMIN DAVID HALEY, b. May 27, 1859, Indiana; d. Sep 03, 1884.
More About BENJAMIN DAVID HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem.
ix. CATHERINE ADELINE HALEY, b. Nov 06, 1862, Indiana; d. May 07, 1884; m. LEWIS G. VANMETER, Sep 05,
1883; b. Abt. 1860.
19. ALFRED RICHARD *8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jan 05, 1825 in Washington Co, Indiana, and died Jul 01, 1866 in Washington
Co.,IN; age 41. He married MARY ANN * ABBOTT Oct
02, 1845 in Washington County, IN-Book E-48; her 1st Mg., daughter of JOHN ABBOTT and ELVIRA
WILSON. She was born Oct 09, 1825 in
Prob. Jackson Co, IN, and died Jul 21, 1887 in Washington Co.- IN.
Notes for ALFRED RICHARD *
PERSINGER:
On the 1850 census
Alfred is living next door to his parents and 4 of their children. Alfred 25y, is living with wife, Mary Ann
24y. & only one child then, Emily H. 11 months. Remember that their 2 older children,
Benjamin & John Wesley died as small children 2 years earlier. Also living with them on that census was Mary
Ann's younger sister, Catherine ABBOTT, age 15.
Alfred is listed in
the 1860 census census as Alfred PERSINGOR (o not e) erroneously on Page 169,
Jefferson Twp. - if you look at that census July 21, 1860 it does look like
PersingOr, instead of er at the end. He
died 6 years later.
He is buried at the
Walnut Ridge Cemetary without his wife but she is buried further away in the
same cemetery at Walnut Ridge - She is with John Johnson's 1st wife, oddly also
named Mary A. - but NO John Johnson is there.
I have never figured out which of the 3 or 4 John Johnson's he is in the
county at that time. Originally I
thought his 1st wife was Susan Empson, so this cemetery stone may or not be the
1st wife.
Note the 1870 census
here on Luke's srapbook - it has Lewis as the head of the household after his
father died, with his siblings living with him next door to John Johnson &
their mother, Mary.
I have a scanned photo
of a man I've wondered if it may be Alfred.
I have two of those photos of this man, exactly alike, the larger is in
a very old oval frame. That is the one
scanned and included on Alfred R. Persinger's scrapbook. There is no writing on either, but were
found in handed down materials of Gibbs & Persinger. I'm sure my Grandmother Grace could have
told me who he was, but I can find no way now of finding who he is unless
another one turns up with an inscription.
More About ALFRED RICHARD *
PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem,. Jefferson Twp,. Washington Co, IN
Notes for MARY ANN * ABBOTT:
Mary is listed in the 1880 census living
with John Johnson & his two children by his 1st wife - their names &
ages: Mary C. 19, & Wilford 17.
She is also on the 1870 census and is shown here in Luke Persinger's
scrapbook - in 1870 she is living with John Johnson next door to her son, Lewis
who seems to be acting as head of the household with 4 of his siblings.
Also living with them
in 1880 was Mary's youngest son Albert Burton Persinger, age 16. The rest of Mary's own children had
apparently already left the home by 1880.
Of interest is their home must have been next to a James Persinger
married to a Nancy. This is taken from
Jefferson Township, Washington Co. census page 14 Family 120, dwelling
115. I have been unable to determine the
names or whereabouts of Mary Ann's parents, but of interest is a John ABBOTT
buried @ the Walnut Ridge Cemetary (same as Mary Ann) B:2-21-1799, D:9-19-1858
- those dates would fit right for her Father, but there is no mention of his
spouse and the Cemetary book for Jefferson Twp. was not able to find a
relationship to Mary Ann (but neither to anyone else did it mention he was
related to.) There is a John on the 1850 census, age 69 (b.1781) from NC,
with wife Elizabeth, 13 years younger, age 56 from VA, I suspect this is a 2nd
wife? Also we are not 100% certain if John Wesley Abbott (B:1820, D:1867) was
Mary Ann's Brother or not, but this is very likely. He is not shown buried in Washington County.
Also it should be mentioned that Cora Elizabeth JOHNSON who 1st married Lewis
Persinger and later Alfred P. Gibbs stated that her Father was a John JOHNSON.
This Mary Ann (ABBOTT) PERSINGER-JOHNSON
is buried with John Johnson's 1st wife (also named Mary A.! in the Walnut Ridge
Cemetary, but where is John Johnson 1880, Washington Co, IN, Jeffeson Twp, Page
440B
John JOHNSON
Self M Male
W 55 IN
Farming OH OH
Mary A. JOHNSON Wife
M Female W
54 IN Keeping House NC
NC
Mary C. JOHNSON Dau
S Female W
19 IN Housekeeper
IN IN
Wilford JOHNSON Son
S Male W
17 IN Farm Lab & School IN
IN
Albert M. PERSINGER SSon
S Male W
16 IN Farm Lab & School IN
IN
_________________________________________________________________
Found an obit for Mary
A. (Abbott) (Persinger) Johnson. Vol
III, p. 24
"[The Republican
Leader, August 5, 1887, Oak Grove Items] -- Mrs. John
Johnson died Thursday
morning, July 21st, and was buried at Monroe Friday
evening. She had been sick several years."
Jefferson Twp. Cem.
record, p 12
Mary A. Johnson, b. 9
Oct 1825; d. 21 Jul 1887, (age 61y, 9m, 12d); dau of
____ Abbott; w. of 1)
Alfred Persinger, m. 2 Oct 1845, 2) John Johnson m. 6
Feb 1868.
Her death is record in
Death Record H-28
____________________________________
On the 1850 census, (living next door to Luke
Persinger) in Washington Co, Mary Ann,
24y is shown living with Alfred 25y, daughter, Emily H., 11mos. AND Finally, presumably Mary Ann's sister,
Catharine ABBOTT, age 15y. There is a
Catharine mentioned on some handed down papers I have that say Catharine
Abbott, Mary Ann's sister, married and moved to Iowa. No mention of her since - AND no mention of
who she married. I've made contact with
others about John Wesley ABBOTT - see his file - and the man we assume to be
John's father, John Sr & his father James.
More About MARY ANN * ABBOTT:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Children of ALFRED PERSINGER
and MARY ABBOTT are:
i. JOHN WESLEY9 PERSINGER,
b. Aug 07, 1846, Indiana; d. Oct 11, 1849, Died at about 2 months.
More About JOHN WESLEY PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem. -
ii. BENJAMIN F. PERSINGER, b. Apr 03, 1848, Indiana; d. Oct 14, 1848,
Died at 6 months.
57. iii. EMILY "EMMA" HARRIETT * PERSINGER, b. Jul 30, 1849, Washington Co,
IN-sometimes went by "Emma"; d. Nov 23, 1885, Washington Co, IN-
Jefferson Twp..
58. iv. LOUIS (1) WILLIAM PERSINGER, b. Nov 18, 1851, IN; This is not the
violinist, but is his Uncle; d. Oct 09, 1881, Washington Co, IN; 29yrs..
59. v. ISAAC NEWTON PERSINGER, b. Feb 02, 1854, Indiana - or 1853; d. Nov
05, 1929, Indiana - Riverview Cem..
60. vi. CATHERINE JANE PERSINGER, b. Apr 25, 1855, Washington Co, IN- Richard
N. Knost's GM; d. Oct 29, 1909, Brownstown, IN at age 54 1/2 yrs..
61. vii. AMOS WILSON PERSINGER, b. May 12, 1861, listed in 1880 census in
Ewing, IN; or 1862 per 1900c; d. Jan 29, 1948, Los Angeles, CA; was a RR agent
in 1910 & 1920 at Colorado Springs.
62. viii. ALBERT MORTON PERSINGER, b. Mar 19, 1864, Washington Co, IN; or
March 15?; d. Nov 17, 1890, Washington Co., IN, uncertain if had children (md.
3yrs).
20. AMERICA JANE8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 16, 1831 in Washington Co, IN - moved to Clay Co, IL 1866, and died Feb 13,
1880 in Louisville, Clay Co, IL -48 yrs, 10m 27d.. She married (1) JOHN WESLEY ABBOTT Jan
08, 1852, son of JOHN ABBOTT and ELVIRA WILSON. He was
born May 12, 1828 in North Fork, KY-acc. some descendants OR-INdiana, and died
Nov 24, 1869 in Louisville, Clay Co, IL.
She married (2) MATTHEW H. DAVIS Nov 26, 1876 in Louisville, Illinois - Marriage
Book D 1874-1881. He was born Mar 27,
1819 in TN; Last known address was in Iola, IL-he had 4 wives, and died May 03,
1889 in Clay Co, IL- bur. @ Old Baptist Cem.-Oskaloosa Twp..
Notes for AMERICA JANE PERSINGER:
1870
> Illinois >
CLAY > LOUISVILLE TWP Series: M593 Roll: 196
Page: 118
ABBOTT
AMERICA I 39 F W IN
IL CLAY LOUISVILLE TWP 1870
More About AMERICA JANE PERSINGER:
Burial: Old Baptist
Cem., Oskaloosa Twp, Clay Co. w. 2nd husb.
Notes for JOHN WESLEY ABBOTT:
Fall, 1999, I was able
to start making contact to descendants of John Wesley ABBOTT & America Jane
PERSINGER - In just a few months we had developed quite a collection of
connections via Email and the exchange of data proved extremely explosive to
the development of the history on this family.
Una Mae Scott & Dixie Woods descend from
John Wesley's daughter, Sarah Maria.
Andrea & Becky Baker descend from his daughter, Hester Annie. Una Mae Scott had handed information
suggesting John Wesley's parents were Henry & Mahala. Becky Baker & Andrea Baker has
information showing parents as Elvira WILSON & John, Sr.- a cabinet maker
with dates of 1789-1857. This is very
similar to the dates for those of a John
Abbott buried at Walnut Ridge Cem. in Jefferson Twp, (aka Monroe Cem.),
Washington Co, IN - also where Mary Ann Abbott & Alfred R. Persinger are
buried. Mary Ann with John Johnson's
first wife also Mary A.! - This John Abbot shows in my cemetery book and
photograph, 1799-1858 and with no wife next to him. I've found no history in the County on this
John, father of John Wesley. I think
the data is sufficient to prove however that Henry & Mahala is an erroneous
connection and that James> John Sr> John Wesley & Mary Ann is the
correct lineage. See notes on James
& John Sr.
There is a Wesley
ABBOT (one "T") on the Driftwood Twp., Jackson Co. IN 1850 census,
page 180B- living with Leonard SHEWMAKER & fam. - Wesley is listed as age
22 (implies BD of 1828 !) - what makes this important despite the discrepancy
of BD 1820 vs. 1828 is that it is only a few houses away from whom we believe
to be his Father, John ABBOTT, census page 181 -then living with a family of
David COPELAND, age 32 (possibly his nephew or brother-in-law?) & David's
family.
ABBOT, WESLEY CARPENTER 22
IN 180
DRIFTWOOD
SHEWMAKER, JOSIAH 11MO IN
180 DRIFTWOOD
SHEWMAKER, EUNICE 07 IN
180 DRIFTWOOD
SHEWMAKER, JAMES
T 12 IN
180 DRIFTWOOD
SHEWMAKER,
ELIZABETH 34 KY
180 DRIFTWOOD
SHEWMAKER,
LEONARD FARMER 37
IN 180 DRIFTWOOD
Finally by year 2000, with extensive
contributions from many of those above and others, I've found John Wesley's
burial and even a will in the courthouse at the tiny county seat of Clay Co.=
Louisville, IL. The will doesn't tell
much we hadn't gained by other means but it does show he had a partner in a
business selling clothing, shoes, etc. bought from locations in NY, Cincinnati
& St. Louis. It appears his
premature death naturally caused the family considerable financial distress,
having to sell much of the material and still coming up short. He was in considerable debt to these
suppliers and many letters were written by the family lawyer to and from the
companys. John & America's only
son, James H. Abbott has written quite an invaluable treatise on the Abbott
ancestry that other descendants have kindly sent me. I believe there are some errors in it - the
most apparent is the birth date for his father John Wesley of 1820 when in fact
all other evidence points to a date of 1828.
See his gravestone photo - he is buried next to his eldest child, Elvira
who died at age 16 y.o. America Jane
is buried about 5 miles NW with her 2nd husband, Matthew H. DAVIS. Most of the children seemed to have migrated
south to Wayne & Jefferson Counties - 2 girls marrying WILSON
brothers. James H. didn't have any
children.
Nov. 2003: For some reason John W. was not found indexed
anyplace on a 1860 census, but did finally find him in Jackson Co. with family
- this census sheet has been placed in his Scrapbook :
1860
> Indiana >
JACKSON > CARR TWP Series: M653 Roll: 268
Page: 487
ABBOT
JOHN W 32 M W IN
IN JACKSON CARR TWP
1860
More About JOHN WESLEY ABBOTT:
Burial: Old Louisville
Cem., Clay Co, IL- with daughter Elivira
Children of AMERICA PERSINGER
and JOHN ABBOTT are:
i. ELVIRA E.9 ABBOTT, b.
Jan 1853, Indiana; d. Apr 22, 1869, Clay Co, IL. - died Age 16 y..
More About ELVIRA E. ABBOTT:
Burial: Old Louisville
Cem., Clay Co - bur. w. her Father
ii. MARY ABBOTT, b. Abt. 1854; d. presumably died as a child or
infant.
63. iii. SARAH MARIA ABBOTT, b. May 03, 1855, IN -per 1870/80 cen.-also had
2 infant deaths 1881 & 85; d. Feb 06, 1920, Jefferson Co, IL.
iv. JAMES HAMILTON ABBOTT, b. Jan 11, 1857, Indiana; lived in Gate,
Beaver Co, Oklahoma; d. 1946, Oklahoma;
I have a letter from him in 1936 & 1944; m. FANNIE LOLA TODD, Abt.
1890; b. Jan 1862, Indiana - 1910 Census, Beaver Co, Pg.269; d. Mar 10, 1941,
Oklahoma; They had no children.
More About JAMES HAMILTON ABBOTT:
Burial: Note single
photo in scrapbook
64. v. HESTER ANNIE ABBOTT, b. Apr 01, 1862, Leesville, Lawrence Co, IN -
(per Baker sisters); d. 1899, Harvey Co, near Halstead, Kansas.
65. vi. LOUISA CATHERINE ABBOTT, b. May 25, 1864, Indiana - per 1880 census -
or sp. Louise; d. Dec 12, 1894, This is Calvin's 2nd wife - or Dec. 12, 1895 ?.
66. vii. LOUESE ABBOTT, b. May 25, 1864, Indiana - per 1880 census -
this is written Lovesa in 1880; d. 1929, may have been born 1865 instead of
1864 ?.
21. ISAIAH IRA8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Dec 25, 1833 in Indiana- I'm not convinced any of these are his, and died Feb
18, 1863 in Died @ Young's Pt., LA in Civil War -Co.B,16th Reg. He married JULIANN (?)
PERSINGER. She was born Abt. 1834 in she
is likely his 2nd? wife? - a Johnson was 1st wife?.
Children of ISAIAH PERSINGER
and JULIANN PERSINGER are:
i. CORNELIUS9 PERSINGER,
b. Abt. 1855.
ii. JAMES FRANKLIN PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1857.
Notes for JAMES FRANKLIN PERSINGER:
This matches him very
well, and says both parents born at Indiana, which certainly Isaiah was.
PERSINGER, JAMES (1910 U.S. Census)
ARKANSAS , CLAY,
JOHNSON TWP
Age: 55, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 46
Page: 137
iii. BETSY PERSINGER, b. 1860.
22. RANDALL W.8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 24, 1836 in Washington Co, IN, and died Apr 15, 1914 in bur. at Wheeler
Cem., Washington Co, IN. He married LAURINDA "LUCY" WHEELER
Jun 11, 1871 in Washington Co, IN, daughter of JOHN WHEELER and MALINDA
TUCKER. She was born Apr 1855 in or Lourinda,
Lounda, and died Aft. 1900.
Notes for RANDALL W. PERSINGER:
This LDS submitter
lists Randall's middle name as Williamson - I've never seen this recorded
anyplace else:
Karen Hammer
3000 Moxadarla Dr
Zanesville, OH
43701-8356
(740) 450-8885
----------------------------------------
1870: He is a single farmer (married 1871), only
one in household, but living next door to his parents, Luke & Elizabeth Persinger and one
remaining sibling, Nancy.
PERSINGER, RANDEL
W (1870 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 38, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M593 Roll: 369
Page: 79
-------------------------------------------------
1880 transcripted from
LDS site:
Randel PERSINGER Self M Male W 49 IN Farming
VA PA
Lourinda PERSINGER Wife M Female W 26 IN Keeping House
IN IN
John PERSINGER
Son S Male W 7 IN School IN IN
Mary C. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 4 IN School IN IN
Sarah E. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 3 IN IN IN
Martha A. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 1 IN IN IN
Nancy PERSINGER Sister Female W 50 IN Housekeeper
VA PA
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 439D
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I couldn't find him
indexed in 1900 but here he is at the bottom of the page and family at top of
next one.
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 76
---------------------------------------------------------------
1910:
I cannot find him in 1900, but here he is on
his last census, still head of household, widowed and has two sons living with
him, Andrew & Jesse H.
PERSINGER, RANDAL
W (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 82, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 387
Page: 80
More About RANDALL W. PERSINGER:
Burial: Wheeler Cem.
with wife Lucy
More About LAURINDA "LUCY"
WHEELER:
Burial: Wheeler Cem. ,
Jefferson Twp. Washington Co.
Children of RANDALL PERSINGER
and LAURINDA WHEELER are:
i. JOHN9 PERSINGER,
b. Dec 13, 1872, Washington Co, IN -at Vigo Co, by 1915; d. Lived at Terre
Haute, IN; m. MARY E. VAN HORN, May 12, 1915, Terre Haute, IN-her 2nd marriage,
his 1st; b. May 11, 1866, Illinois.
Notes for JOHN PERSINGER:
1910: he is an infantry
soldier, single
PERSINGER, JOHN (1910 U.S. Census)
MILITARY AND NAVAL ,
PHILIPPINES, FORT WILLIAM MCKINLEY, RIZAL
Age: 37, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 1784
Page: 145
-------------------------------------------------------------
PERSINGER, JOHN (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , VIGO, 7-WD;
TERRE HAUTE; HARRISON TW
Age: 47, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 467
Page: 184
Occupation: Oiler at
Railroad yards
He has no children with
Mary, but appears she may have a child with them from her earlier marriage, 8
y.o. Anna Yates or Yatsas, Yatsos ? Here they are living on 1st Ave, near 22nd
Ave.
67. ii. MARY CATHERINE PERSINGER, b. Sep 19, 1875, Washington Co, Indiana; d.
Dec 26, 1944, bur. at Covenanter/Rice Cem, Washington Co, IN.
68. iii. SARAH E. PERSINGER, b. May 1877, Washington Co, IN.
69. iv. MARTHA ANN PERSINGER, b. Dec 19, 1879, Washington Co, IN;
ancestor of Anita Aldrich; d. Feb 17, 1950, Medora, IN-Jackson Co..
v. JAMES PERSINGER, b. Jan 1882, Washington Co, IN.
Notes for JAMES PERSINGER:
1910:
This man matches him
very well, with he and both parents born at Indiana. He is a soldier here in the "Coast
Artillary" at Fort Flager, Washington - Port Townsend !
PERSINGER, JAMES G (1910 U.S. Census)
WASHINGTON , JEFFERSON,
NORDLAND PCT
Age: 28, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 1656
Page: 183
-----------------------------------------------------
By 1920, he is a
soldier, but imprisoned at Ft. Leavenworth KS
PERSINGER, JAMES G (1920 U.S. Census)
KANSAS , LEAVENWORTH,
FORT LEAVENWORTH; US STATE PEN
Age: 38, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 537
Page: 57
70. vi. CHESTER ARTHUR PERSINGER, b. Jun 05, 1883, Washington Co, IN -Ron
Persinger's GrGF; d. Mar 16, 1957, Medora, IN-Jackson Co.;At Jefferson Twp.
Washington Co. 1920-30.
vii. ANDREW W. PERSINGER, b. Jun 1885, Washington Co, IN; living w.
Father 1910.
viii. WILSON PERSINGER, b. Jun 05, 1891, Washington Co, Indiana; d.
lived at Terre Haute, IN by 1921; m. PAULINE MARY MOSMAN, Aug 02, 1921, Terre Haute, IN; b. Feb 04,
1899, Carrol Co, Iowa.
ix. JESSE HARVE PERSINGER, b. Apr 1892, Washington Co, IN.
Notes for JESSE HARVE PERSINGER:
1910: believe he is the
youngest shown as Jesse H. with widowed Father at Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.
-------------------------------------------------
1920- this is the only
possible match I can find for Harve(y), the age is about one year younger than
expected. He is with 19y.o. wife, Violet
and no children. Occupation Fireman at a
Coal mine.
PERSINGER, HARVEY (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , GREENE,
WRIGHT TWP
Age: 26, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 435
Page: 39
x. AMANDA E. PERSINGER, b. Apr 1895, Washington Co, IN.
23. JAMES HAMILTON8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 07, 1838 in Indiana - His 1st wife was Rachel BOLING, and died Jan 18, 1885
in Washington Co, Indiana. He married
(1) RACHEL BOLING Mar 01, 1858 in His 1st marriage. She was born Abt. 1838 in Indiana, and died
Bef. 1871. He married (2) NANCY ANN JOHNSON Abt.
1870 in His 2nd marriage, daughter of JAMES JOHNSON and SUSAN EMPSON. She
was born Abt. 1852 in This is James' 2nd wife, uncertain if she is Henry's
daught., and died Aft. Nov 23, 1929 in This family listed in 1880
Cen.Jeff.TwpP14.
Notes for JAMES HAMILTON
PERSINGER:
Raised by William
Bowers @ early age - Why?
---------------------------------------------------------------
PERSINGER, JAMES (1870 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 32, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M593 Roll: 369
Page: 75
Nancy is only 18 here
in 1870 and James is 32, they are probably just married. This is the same census sheet that John
Johnson & Mary Ann Abbott are on with her children, 14 yrs. after Alfred R.
died. See that image in Mary Ann
Abbott's scrapbook.
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1880:
James PERSINGER Self M Male W ... IN VA PA
Nancy PERSINGER Wife M Female W ... IN Keeping House
IN IN
John A. PERSINGER Son S Male W 9 IN School IN IN
Catharine J. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 6 IN School IN IN
Lewis E. PERSINGER Son S Male W 4 IN IN
IN
Eliza A. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 2 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 440B
More About JAMES HAMILTON
PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem.
Child of JAMES PERSINGER
and RACHEL BOLING is:
i. MARY ELIZABETH9 PERSINGER,
b. Abt. 1859.
Children of JAMES PERSINGER
and NANCY JOHNSON are:
71. ii. JOHN AMOS9 PERSINGER,
b. Jul 18, 1871, Washington Co, IN; d. Jun 28, 1949, Jackson Co, IN -bur.
Robertson Cem. Hamilton Twp..
iii. CATHARINE J. PERSINGER, b. 1874, IN.
72. iv. LEWIS E. (3) PERSINGER, b. Sep 18, 1875, He is Gr.GF of Heather
Elliott; d. Oct 24, 1962, Washington Co, IN.
73. v. ELIZA MATILDA "TILLIE" PERSINGER, b. Jul 12, 1879, Salem, IN; or born July
12, 1877; d. Oct 13, 1937, Salem, IN.
vi. LANAETT PERSINGER, b. Jan 1880, IN.
vii. ALVA TISON PERSINGER, b. Nov 18, 1881, Washington Co, IN; d.
1952, Wray Cem, N. of Medora, IN.
Notes for ALVA TISON PERSINGER:
1920: He is single living alone:
PERSINGER, TICEN (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON, OWEN
TWP
Age: 39, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 181
24. SARAH ANN8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Aug 20, 1839 in Washington Co, IN; GrGM of Mary Ewing, and died Sep 17, 1938 in
Washington Co, IN; 98 yrs. She married
(1) ELI
CARESS Dec 29, 1858 in 1st of 2 marriages for Sarah Ann. He was born Jan 12, 1833, and died Mar 05,
1862 in died in Civil War. She married
(2) MARMADUKE GEORGE COKER Apr 03, 1866 in 2nd of two marriages for Sarah
Ann. He was born May 04, 1811 in Rowan
Co, NC, and died Jun 13, 1909 in bur. at Canton Cem, Washington Co, IN.
Notes for SARAH ANN PERSINGER:
The data on this line
is from Great-GD, Mary Steele Ewing.
More About SARAH ANN PERSINGER:
Burial: Canton, IN;
mov. to Canton, IN, just of Salem about 1900
Children of SARAH PERSINGER
and ELI
CARESS are:
74. i. AMANDA ELDORA9 CARESS, b.
Oct 30, 1859, Went by "Dora" - lived at Partridge, Kansas; d. Aft.
1947, Letters written by her tell some of family.
75. ii. RACHEL CARESS, b. Abt. 1860; d. Bef. 1938, inferred from her
Mother's obituary.
Children of SARAH PERSINGER
and MARMADUKE COKER are:
76. iii. GEORGE E.9 COKER, b.
Feb 16, 1867; d. Nov 26, 1940.
77. iv. BENJAMIN F. COKER, b. Mar 1868; d. 1956, Bur. at Winslow Cem,
Washington Co, IN.
78. v. CHARLES ERVIN COKER, b. May 08, 1885; d. Dec 01, 1956, Ocala, Marion
Co, FL.
vi. THENA COKER, b. Abt. 1873.
79. vii. MARY ELIZA PAULINE COKER, b. Jan 03, 1878; d. Aug 09, 1961, Iowa.
25. ELIZA MATILDA8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 07, 1842 in Washington Co, Indiana, and died Jan 18, 1939 in another source
says D: 1938. She married JOHN WADE COFFEY Oct
26, 1869 in Washington Co, IN, son of JAMES COFFEY and ANN GRAHAM. He was
born Jan 13, 1841 in Salem, IN, and died Apr 15, 1922 in Civil War Soldier Co.C
IndianaVol 50th Reg..
Notes for ELIZA MATILDA PERSINGER:
1880 (this is on the same census page as her
brother, Benjamin Persinger):
John W. COFFEY
Self M Male W 39 IN Farmer KY NC
Eliza M. COFFEY Wife M Female W 38 IN Keeping House
VA VA
George H. COFFEY Son S Male W 9 IN School
IN IN
James H. COFFEY Son
S Male W 8 IN School
IN IN
William W. COFFEY Son S Male W 6 IN School IN IN
Annie E. COFFEY Dau S Female W 3 IN IN IN
Annie E. COFFEY Mother
W Female W 65 NC Keeping House
NC NC
James COFFEY
Brother
D Male W 31 IN Farmer KY NC
J. Adam RICE
Other S Male W 45 GER Carpenter
GER GER
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 436B
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COFFEY, JOHN M (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 59, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 73
More About ELIZA MATILDA PERSINGER:
Burial: Covenanter /
Rice Cem., Washington Co, IN
More About JOHN WADE COFFEY:
Burial: w. Eliza
Children of ELIZA PERSINGER
and JOHN COFFEY are:
i. GEORGE HENRY9 COFFEY, b.
1870.
ii. JAMES HARVEY (2) COFFEY, b. 1872.
iii. WILLIAM WAID COFFEY, b. Oct 1873.
80. iv. ANNA ELIZA COFFEY, b. Sep 06, 1876; d. Mar 21, 1942.
v. MARY ELIZABETH COFFEY, b. Jul 1880.
81. vi. MINARD ERNEST COFFEY, b. Feb 11, 1883; d. Jan 05, 1961, bur.
Covenanter/Rice Cem, Washington Co, IN.
26. MARY POLLY8 PERSINGER (LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jun 12, 1847 in IN; all census including 1900 verify 1847 BD, and died Dec 21,
1935 in died @ 88 years old, bur. w Wm. Sr..
She married (1) WILLIAM ELLIOTT, SR. Feb 14, 1866, son of JOHN ELLIOTT and MARY STUART. He was born Sep 22, 1834 in IN, and died Jul
31, 1891 in Ancestors of Paul Bowers, husband of Martha. She married (2) JOSEPH PHILLIPS
1900 in Her 2nd marriage. He was born
Apr 1847 in IN, and died Aft. 1900.
Notes for MARY POLLY PERSINGER:
Her descendant Paul
Bowers still lives at Washington Co, IN -
His wife Martha &
daughter Jana are genealogists;
Martha once worked at
the Historical Museum at Salem and are a great source of information on the
Bowers & Persinger lines.
Phone: 812-883-5276
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Mary is the last child
born to Luke. She is living with 2nd
husband, Joseph Phillips in 1900,along with 2 of her sons, Sarah & William
and a Grandaughter, 4 y.o. Ethel Ruth on Page 74, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.
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1880:
William ELLIOTT Self M Male W 45 IN Farmer SC VA
Mary ELLIOTT
Wife M Female W 33 IN Keeping House
--- VA
Estella ELLIOTT Dau S Female W 12 IN School IN IN
Mary ELLIOTT
Dau S Female W 11 IN School IN IN
John ELLIOTT
Son S Male W 10 IN School IN IN
Elizabeth ELLIOTT Dau S Female W 8 IN School IN IN
Sarah ELLIOTT
Dau S Female W 6 IN School IN IN
Margaret ELLIOTT Dau S Female W 2 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 438A
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ELLIOTT, WILLIAM (1870 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 36, Male, Race: WHITE,
Born: IN
Series: M593 Roll: 369
Page: 81- A & B
More About MARY POLLY PERSINGER:
Burial:
Rice-Covenanter Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
More About WILLIAM ELLIOTT, SR.:
Burial:
Rice-Covenanter Cem, Washington Co, IN
Children of MARY PERSINGER and
WILLIAM
ELLIOTT are:
82. i. ESTELLA9 ELLIOTT,
b. Mar 25, 1867; d. Sep 06, 1900.
ii. MARY ELLIOTT, b. Oct 22, 1868; d. Apr 08, 1890.
More About MARY ELLIOTT:
Burial: Apr 09, 1890,
Kossuth Cem.
iii. JOHN ELLIOTT, b. Apr 21, 1870; d. Feb 17, 1891.
More About JOHN ELLIOTT:
Burial: Rice-Covenanter
Cem.
83. iv. ELIZABETH ELLIOTT, b. Apr 26, 1872, "Lizzie"; d. Nov
18, 1898.
84. v. SARAH E. ELLIOTT, b. May 15, 1874, Indiana- Paul Bower's GM; d.
Jul 23, 1961.
vi. LUELLA ELLIOTT, b. Apr 08, 1876; d. Oct 10, 1876.
vii. MARGARET ELLIOTT, b. Nov 01, 1877; d. Feb 18, 1881, Bur @
covenanter Cem..
viii. RANDOLPH ELLIOTT, b. May 30, 1882; d. Jan 14, 1900.
More About RANDOLPH ELLIOTT:
Burial: Rice-Covenanter
Cem, Washington Co, IN
85. ix. WILLIAM ELLIOTT, JR., b. Apr 11, 1886; d. May 05, 1982.
27. ELIZABETH8 FULTZ (SARAH7
PERSINGER, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jan 07, 1822 in VA: name is spelled FULTS on the marriage, and died Nov 22,
1905 in Salem, IN -3 children per 1900 cen.
She married JACOB HAUGER Feb 20, 1840 in Washington Co.. He was born Apr 14, 1816 in Ohio, and died
Jun 20, 1881 in Washington Co, IN.
More About ELIZABETH FULTZ:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem, Washington Co, IN
Notes for JACOB HAUGER:
1870 census >
Indiana > WASHINGTON
Co. > WASHINGTON TWP Series: M593 Roll: 369
Page: 220
HAUGER
JACOB 53 M W OH
More About JACOB HAUGER:
Burial: w. Elizabeth
Children of ELIZABETH FULTZ
and JACOB HAUGER are:
86. i. ALBERT THOMPSON9 HAUGER, b.
May 17, 1841, Washington Co, IN; 2nd wife, Martha; d. Dec 09, 1926.
ii. WILLIAM JEROME HAUGER, b. Apr 29, 1843, Washington Co, IN - prob.
never married; d. Aug 20, 1929.
More About WILLIAM JEROME HAUGER:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem., Salem, IN
87. iii. SARAH J. HAUGER, b. Mar 10, 1846, Washington Co, IN; d. Sep 11,
1921, Washington Co, IN; bur. Crown Hill cem, Salem.
28. JOHN ALEXANDER8 PERSINGER (ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1822 in VA. He married NANCY PATTERSON
Feb 24, 1847 in Gallia Co, OH - Her 2nd marriage. She was born 1816, and died 1883.
Notes for JOHN ALEXANDER
PERSINGER:
1850 census Virginia ,
Mason co, 38th District ,,#959, p, 425 Ancestry Image 124 of 165. enumerated
19 sept 1850
(transcribed Feb 2002 by Bev Bakos ,Mtn View CA)
Alexander Persinger
,28 m , VA
Nancy ,34, f VA cant
read /write
Syntha A Hill,14 , f ,
VA in school
Note in 1850 he is
living next door to his brother Ansel Persinger
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1860 Census Mason
county Murcers Bottom district #2 image#470 roll#M653_1361 pg #911 # 141 of 226
images line 32 household #600/574
Alex Puringer age 38 M
W farmer land value 100 born Virginia
Nancy age 45 F born VA
George A age 7 M
born VA
John Hill age 19
M born VA
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1870
PERSINGER,
ALEXANDER (1870 U.S. Census)
WEST VIRGINIA , MASON,
CLENDENIN TWP
Age: 50, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: VA
Series: M593 Roll:
1692 Page: 148
Image#304 pg#33&34 Point Pleasant WV Post
Office
date July 26 1870
Alexander Persinger
age 50 male /white/ farmer /$150/born VA
Nancy Persinger age 56 female/white/keeping
house /born VA
Cyntha is listed in this census with no last name
listed but maiden name was Hillas it shows in 1850 census she married a Siders
age 32 female /white/bornVA
George A Persinger age 17 male /white/born VA
Annie E Persinger age 5 female /white/born WV
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1880 Us federal census
Mason co, WVa LDS FILM#1255408 /NA
FILM#T9-1408 PG#238D
John A Persinger self
married male white age 57 WV
Farm Labor father WV mother WV
Nancy Persinger
wife married female white age 64
WV keeping house father
VA mother VA
George A Persinger
son married male white age
27 WV
farm labor father WV
mother WV
Martha E Persinger
dau-L female white age 25
OH at home father
OH mother OH
Ira Persinger gson male white
age 5 WV father WV mother OH
John R Persinger
gson male white
age 1 WV father WV
mother OH
Notes for NANCY PATTERSON:
Burial: 1883,
Withers-Harbours- Persinger Family Cem,
Hogsett,Mason,co,WVa
Death certifcaite:
Mason county WV Death records bk,1880-1903
Death certificate
info: August 03, 1883, Clendenin dist birth N/A age at death 72 yrs birthplace Kanawha co,VA father Berry
Patterson mother N Patterson spouse J,A,Persinger cause Eczema burial ,undertaker,physician N/A informant
husband J,A,Persinger cert filed ,registrarN/A
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Nancy Patterson first
married Henry Hill and had two daughters Mary Frances and Syntha Ann Hill,After
Henry died Nancy married John Alexander Persinger her daughter Mary Frances
Hill married John Alexander Persingers brother Ansel Persinger - Lois Downour
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
NANCY
PATTERSON are:
88. i. GEORGE A.9 PERSINGER,
b. May 01, 1853, Mason Co, WV; d. Sep 26, 1927, Apple Grove, Mason Co, WV.
ii. ANNE E. PERSINGER, b. 1860, WV- she may be GD, not daugh..
29. ANSEL8 PERSINGER (ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1825 in VA -went by Russell, middle name.
He married MARY FRANCES HILL Aug 16, 1849 in Galliopolis, Gallia Co, OH,
daughter of HENRY HILL and NANCY PATTERSON. She
was born Abt. 1836 in OH.
Notes for ANSEL PERSINGER:
Note on the 1850
census Ansel Persinger was living next door to his brother Alexander Persinger
1850 Virginia Mason
co, 38th District #959 ,,p 425, Enumerated 19 Sept 1850 image #372roll#M432_959
transcribed by Bev
Bakos Feb 2002
886/900
Ansel Persinger
,,24,,m,, Carpenter ,,VA cannot read/write
Mary F, 19 f, VA
Nancy A ,4/12,,f ,VA (
she drown at age 5)
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PERSINGER, ANSEL (1870 U.S. Census)
WEST VIRGINIA , MASON,
CLENDENIN TWP
Age: 46, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: VA
Series: M593 Roll:
1692 Page: 206
1870 Census WVA Mason co, Clendenin Twp
,Proctorville, Post office
Roll # 593-1692 ancestry search says listed on
pg 206 it is on Pg 211 ,
image#421they say but
on 420
Persinger Ansel 46, m,
w, Farmer,$890/425, VA, cant read/write Eligible
to vote.
Mary F, 37,f, w,keeping house,VA,cant read/write,
Wm,
14,m,w, VA
Chas,
10, m,w,VA
Allice,
6,f,w,WV
Thomas J, 3,m,w,WV
Frances, 6/12,f,w WV
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1880 Census listed at
LDS has Ancell as Russell this is wrong if you look at the origanal copy,
Family History Library
Film# 1255408 census place Clendennin,Mason,West,Virginia
NA Film Number T9-1408
Page Number 238D Marital
Fathers Mothers
Name Relationship Status
Gender Race Age Birthplace
Occupation Birthplace Bithplace
Persinger Russell Self M M W
54 WV Farmer WV WV
Persinger Mary F Wife M F W
46 OH Keeping House PA WV
Persinger Chas R Son S M W
19 WV Farm Labor WV OH
Persinger Thomas J Son
S M W
13 WV At Home WV OH
Persinger Frances V
Dau S F W
11 WV At Home WV OH
Siders James
GSon S M
W 12 WV
At Home WV OH
Liston Fanny J
Other S F W
14 WV At Home WV WV
Burial: 1884
Census: 1850, Virginia Mason co, 38th District #959, p 425
enumerated 19 sept 1850
Death certifcaite:
Have found no death record but Ansel was in census for 1880 Mason,co,WV
Clendennin twp on his sons marriage record inAugust 1884 it states he was
married at the widow Persingers house who was his mother then they were
deviding Ansel estate in April 23 1884
Deviding of estate:
April 23, 1884, Mason co,WV,deed bk 38 pg 561 deviding of the estate of Ansel
Persinger between children and heirs
Children of ANSEL PERSINGER
and MARY HILL are:
i. NANCY ANN9 PERSINGER,
b. Jun 1850, Mason Co, WV; d. 1855.
ii. MARY CATHERINE PERSINGER, b. 1853, Mason Co, WV; m. WILLIAM H. SMITH; b. 1847,
WV.
89. iii. WILLIAM ISAAC PERSINGER, b. Sep 10, 1856, Mason Co, WV; d. Aug 21,
1937, Hagsett, Mason Co, WV.
iv. CHARLES REUBEN PERSINGER, b. 1862, Mason Co, WV; d. Mason Co, WV; m.
FRANCES
BARTRAM, Mar 02, 1888, Mason Co, WV; b. Abt. 1862.
90. v. MARTHA ALICE PERSINGER, b. May 12, 1864, Mason Co, WV; d. Nov 13,
1887, Mason Co, WV.
91. vi. THOMAS JACKSON PERSINGER, b. 1867, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; Lois
Downour's GF; d. Jun 01, 1935, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV-children w. all 3 mgs.
vii. FRANCES V. PERSINGER, b. Jan 04, 1870, WV; m. SHERIDAN RUSSELL;
b. Abt. 1870.
30. MARTHA SUSAN8 PERSINGER (ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 18, 1837 in VA, and died Jul 05, 1889 in Mason Co, WV. She married MOSES MANNING DUNCAN Jan
04, 1853 in Mason Co, WV, son of JOHN DUNCAN. He was
born Apr 26, 1831 in Kanawha Co, VA, and died Aug 15, 1919 in Mason Co, WV;
they are bur. Withers Cem..
Notes for MARTHA SUSAN PERSINGER:
1860 census Mason
county Virginia Post office Hareford pg #865 Roll #M653_1361 image #424 Line
15 287/258 date June 13 1860 this census
was hard to read it had ink blotches on it
Moses M Dunken age 2?
ink stain on last #of age M farmer
property val 50
Martha S age 2? ink stain " "
" " F
born VA
William H age 6
M born VA
May age 4 F
born VA
Elza age 3 F
born VA
John L age 1 M
born VA
1870 census Mason county Clendenin dist Buffalo WV
Roll#M593_1692in ancestry census images its
pg 200 in origanal census pg is
12 image#409 post office Buffalo WV
Duncan Moses M 39 M W FARMER 1100/ 325 born VA 8 BLANKS 1 BLANK
Martha S 38 F
W keeping house 3 blanks born VA
rest of boxes blank
William H 16 M W 4 BLANKS then born VA all other boxes
blank
Mary E 15 F W 4 BLANKS then born VA all others
blank
Eliza C 13 F W 4 BLANKS then born VA all others
blank
John W 11 M W 4 BLANKS then born VA all others
blank
Harriett J
9 F W 4 BLANKS then born VA all others blank
James G 5 M
W 4 BLANKS then born WVA all others
blank
Allice S 3
F W 4 BLANKS then born WVA all others blank
Sherman
6/12 M W 4 BLANKS then born WVA
all others blank
1880 Census Mason
county clendenin dist Family History Library
film# 1255408 NA film
T9-1408 page 251A
Name Relationshp , M S, Gender, Race, age ,Birthplace, Occp, Fathers
bplace, Mothers bplace
Moses Duncan Head M M W
49 WV Farmer ------ ------
Martha Wife M F W
43 WV keeping house ------- ------
John L Son S M W
20 WV Farm Labor WV WV
Henrietta J Dau S F
W 19 WV
At Home WV WV
James G Son S M W
15 WV At Home WV WV
Alice S Dau S F
W 12
WV At Home WV WV
Frances S Son S M W
10 WV At Home WV WV
Albert S Son S M W
8 WV
At Home WV WV
Maggie May Dau S F W
6 WV At Home WV WV
Minnie M Dau S F W
3 WV At Home WV WV
Children of MARTHA PERSINGER
and MOSES DUNCAN are:
92. i. WILLIAM H.9 DUNCAN, b.
1854.
93. ii. MARY E. DUNCAN, b. Nov 21, 1855; d. Jun 14, 1934, 1825
Buffington Ave, Huntington, Cabell Co, WV.
iii. ELIZA C. DUNCAN, b. 1857.
94. iv. JONATHAN LEWIS DUNCAN, b. 1859, Mason Co, WV; d. 1925.
v. HARRIETT J. DUNCAN, b. 1861; m. LEONIDA BROWN, Oct 18, 1884, Gallia
Co, OH; b. Abt. 1860.
vi. JAMES E. DUNCAN, b. 1865; m. MARY A. CREMEENS, Oct 29, 1885, Gallia
Co, OH; b. Abt. 1866.
vii. ALICE S. DUNCAN, b. 1867; m. (1) JOHN T. BUNCE, Apr 23,
1885, Gallia Co, OH - Her 1st Marriage; b. Abt. 1866; m. (2) ELMER BATTERSON,
Feb 12, 1891, Mason Co, WV- her 2nd marriage; b. Abt. 1866.
viii. FRANCIS SHERMAN DUNCAN, b. 1869, Mason Co, WV; m. BERTHA WATTERSON,
May 18, 1894; b. Abt. 1870.
ix. MAGGIE MAY DUNCAN, b. 1874.
x. MINNIE M. DUNCAN, b. 1877, Mason Co, WV; m. SAMUEL MEEK, Dec
21, 1898, Gallia Co, OH; b. Abt. 1877.
Notes for MINNIE M. DUNCAN:
In the 1910 us federal
census for Minnie Duncan andSamuel Meeks it says 0-0 beside minnie for children
born children living so am assuming they
had no children of their own.But they must have raised a few neices and nephews
because living with them were nephew
Samuel Meek age 17 born abt 1893
and nephew Gilbert Duncan age 3 born ab 1907 and Niece Ethel Duncan age
13 born abt 1897 in this same census Moses Duncan Minnies father is living with
them age 71 yrs
31. MARY CATHERINE8 PERSINGER (ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1846 in Hogsett, Kanawha Co, WV. She
married RUBEN JAMES SIDERS Oct 24, 1866 in Gallia Co, OH, son of WILLIAM SIDERS and
AMANDA
LAWLESS. He was born May 05, 1843 in
Gallia Co, OH, and died Feb 24, 1937.
Child of MARY PERSINGER and
RUBEN
SIDERS is:
i. JAMES9 SIDERS, b.
1868.
32. HENRY8 PERSINGER (GEORGE7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1838 in Indiana, and died Bet. 1880 - 1900 in Probably Grayson Co, KY. He married IRENA (?)
PERSINGER. She was born Dec 1846 in New
Jersey; or Irene, and died Dec 08, 1914 in Grayson Co, KY; vol 63, #3141; age
67.
Notes for HENRY PERSINGER:
1880 - He has moved to
Grayson Co, KY - certain it is him as has same named wife as in 1870 at
Washington Co, IN - and she is from NJ
on both census records.
Household:
Name Relation Marital
Status Gender Race Age
Birthplace Occupation Father's
Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
Henry PURSINGER Self M Male W 40 IN Farmer --- IN
Ireeny PURSINGER Wife M Female W 35 NJ House Keeping
NJ NJ
James W. PURSINGER Son S Male W 15 IN Laborer
IN NJ
Hendy Ga PURSINGER Dau S Female W 12 IN IN NJ
Lida A. PURSINGER Dau S Female W 5 IN IN NJ
Nancy E. PURSINGER Dau S Female W 1 KY IN NJ
Source Information:
Census
Place Sand Spring, Grayson,
Kentucky
Family
History Library Film 1254416
NA
Film Number T9-0416
Page
Number 547B
Children of HENRY PERSINGER
and IRENA PERSINGER are:
95. i. JAMES WILLIAM9 PERSINGER,
b. Jan 1866, Indiana; or 1864 as in 1870 cen.; d. Nov 24, 1934, Grayson Co, KY;
age 72.
ii. MARY J. PERSINGER, b. 1865, Indiana; d. Aft. 1880.
iii. HENDEGARD PERSINGER, b. 1867, Indiana; d. Aft. 1880.
iv. LIDA A. PERSINGER, b. 1874, Indiana; d. Aft. 1880.
v. NANCY E. PERSINGER, b. 1878, Kentucky; d. Aft. 1880.
96. vi. PENOLA E. PERSINGER, b. Mar 17, 1881, Kentucky- this IS a male;
d. Feb 07, 1972, Grayson Co, KY; age 90.
33. WILLIAM L.8 PERSINGER (GEORGE7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1842 in Indiana, and died Bet. 1880 - 1900.
He married MARY (?) PERSINGER. She
was born Nov 1849 in Indiana, and died Aft. 1900.
Notes for WILLIAM L. PERSINGER:
1880:
Wm. PERSINGER
Self M Male W 37 IN Farmer IN IN
Mary PERSINGER
Wife M Female W 30 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Wm. H. PERSINGER Son S Male W 8 IN At
Home IN IN
Emma O. PERSINGER Dau S Female W 1 IN At
Home IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Carr, Jackson, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254286
NA
Film Number T9-0286
Page
Number 52B
Children of WILLIAM PERSINGER
and MARY PERSINGER are:
97. i. WILLIAM H.9 PERSINGER,
b. May 1872, Indiana; d. Details here assuming he is one at Madison Co,IN.
ii. EMILY O. PERSINGER, b. Sep 1878, Indiana.
98. iii. JACOB L. PERSINGER, b. Jun 1881, Indiana.
iv. ORPHA PERSINGER, b. May 1888, Indiana.
34. JOHN8 PERSINGER (HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 1824 in Indiana -per death certificate 92 y.o., and died Jan 30, 1916 in
Madison, IN, Madison St. Hospital; Brownstown Cem.. He married (1) RACHEL TEMPLETON
Jan 16, 1845 in Jackson Co, Indiana;
other sources 1843. She was born
Abt. 1825, and died in probably died about 1856. He married (2) SARAH WILCUTT May
30, 1857 in Washington Co, IN. She was
born 1823 in Indiana, Prob. parents Jonathon & Elizabeth NC/ VA, and died
Bet. 1880 - 1884 in probably died at Jasper Co, IL. He married (3) MARTHA CARTER Jul
06, 1884 in Clay Co, Illinois, daughter of WILLIAM BROOKS and SARAH CARTER. She
was born Aug 1850 in Indiana; or 1851- 1 son, Merrill with earlier mg., and
died 1912 in says both her parents born in Indiana. He married (4) GRACE OWENS Abt.
1914. She was born Abt. 1860 in Believe
her to be his 4th wife.
Notes for JOHN PERSINGER:
I was unaware of any
theory as to who John's parents were til speaking to George Persinger (Seymour,
IN > Omaha, IL) November 8, 2005.
George believes, but cannot prove that John is son of Henry, who we
believe is in turn half-brother of Luke.
I tend to agree since he is born about 1824, same year Henry married
Elizabeth May which is documented in Washington Co. records. Also, John's 1st born son is named
Henry. John's BD gets earlier as the
years go by however. In 1860 he is 34
(1826), 1870 is 50 (1820), 1880 is 61
(1819), 1900 is 81 and clearly shows
1819 BD, 1910 is 94 (1816) ! I will show John as son of Henry til I can
find some evidence suggesting otherwise.
It is certainly most likely that John is a son of one of Luke's brothers
or half-brothers, as we know Luke & Henry came to Washington Co, with other
siblings. Henry is the most likely
Father, but others are feasible. There
are probably some we don't yet know about.
Also we believe Henry had an older full sibling, George allegedly 2 yrs.
older than Henry, however, I've never been able to track him.
I cannot find him on
any census of 1850; Other census
records show him at Washington Co, Indiana, Monroe Twp. in 1860 (wife looks
like Sallie here, but age same as Sarah in 1870 & 1880), Jackson Co, Ind. in 1870, Jasper Co, (below)
in 1880, Jackson County in 1900 with Martha, presumed 3rd wife, and living with son Isiah in 1910 at Jackson
Co, Ind. without any wife. I've
attached all these census records to John's scrapbook.
Nov. 15th, 2005 -
final evidence of John's parents, supporting our previous "best
guess", came to me from Marilyn Hargesheimer of Bloomington, IL when she
supplied a "Register of Marriages - Book 1, 1877-1895 - Clay Co, IL"
- it shows Certificate number 1168 for John Persinger marrying Martha Carter,
July 6, 1884 - clearly showing his parents listed as Henry Persinger &
Elizabeth May, same people as we have already found of that couples marriage in
1824 at Washington Co. This also shows
John born at Washington Co, Indiana, but at that time living at Jasper Co, as
we know he was on the census of 1880.
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PERSINGER, JOHN (1860 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
MONROE TWP
Age: 36, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M653 Roll: 306
Page: 369
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PERSINGER, JOHN (1870 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TWP
Age: 50, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: M593 Roll: 326
Page: 267
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1880, they've moved to
Jasper Co, Illinois:
John PERSINGER
Self M Male W 61 IN Farmer VA VA
Sarah PERSINGER Wife M Female W 56 IN Keeping House
NC KY
John PERSINGER
Son S Male W 19 IN Works On
Farm IN IN
George PERSINGER Son S Male W 17 IN Works On
Farm IN IN
Izair PERSINGER Son S Male W 10 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Smallwood, Jasper, Illinois
Family
History Library Film 1254215
NA
Film Number T9-0215
Page
Number 370A
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#3 Marriage:
PENINGER, JOHN to
CARTER, MARTHA
07/06/1884 1 /92
1168 CLAY Co, IL
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PERSINGER, JOHN (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TWP
Age: 81, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 378
Page: 17
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1910, his last census,
he is living with his son, Isaiah- see this image on Isaiah's scrapbook.
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George Persinger 1948
tells me that he has records from the last few weeks of John's life -
He was admitted to
what many called the Madison State Hospital on January 12th, 1916 and died a
few weeks later, evening of January 30.
This has changed name. Was
officially called Southeast Hospital for the insane.
Notes for SARAH WILCUTT:
There is a Jonathon 66
from NC and Elizabeth 56 from VA on the 1850 census at Monroe Twp, Washington
Co, IN, Page 401.
Notes for MARTHA CARTER:
PERSINGER, MARTHA (1910 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , CLAY, BIBLE
GROVE TWP
Age: 58, Female, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T624 Roll: 233
Page: 116
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
RACHEL
TEMPLETON are:
i. ELIZABETH9 PERSINGER,
b. 1845, Indiana; m. MR. LUCAS; b. Abt. 1844.
99. ii. HENRY S. PERSINGER, b. Dec 12, 1847, Washington Co, Indiana; d.
Jan 25, 1932, Jackson Co, IN-3 miles East of Brownstown, IN; age 84.
iii. ALFRED PERSINGER, b. 1849, Indiana.
100. iv. ANNA MARIA PERSINGER, b. Apr 04, 1855, Washington Co, Indiana; d.
Oct 07, 1944, Gary, IN; lived at Elwood, Madison Indiana.
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
SARAH
WILCUTT are:
v. EMMANUEL9 PERSINGER,
b. 1859, Indiana; d. probably died young.
101. vi. JOHN BENJAMIN PERSINGER, b. Jan 1862, Indiana- BD per 1900 cen.; or
1863; d. Aug 21, 1935, Richland Co, IL - prob. Olney, IL.
vii. GEORGE PERSINGER, b. 1863, Indiana.
Notes for GEORGE PERSINGER:
George is seen on the
1870 & 1880 census with his parents, and this one below is the only 1900
match I could find. At first I felt it
was him, but notice he has a brother living with is family- this brother, named
Martin would have been born about 1874, and there is no one in John &
Sarah's family that would fit this Martin, so doubt it is him.
PERSINGER, GEORGE
R (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WARRICK, BOON
TWP
Age: 36, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 140
viii. LORINA PERSINGER, b. 1864, Indiana.
ix. ANDREW PERSINGER, b. 1865, Indiana.
102. x. ISAIAH B. "ZEKE" PERSINGER, b. Jul 11, 1869, Indiana; dt cert &
obit says 1863; 1900 cen. says 1871; d. Apr 06, 1953, Brownstown, IN; Mt. Eden
Cem., Washington Co..
Child of JOHN PERSINGER and
MARTHA
CARTER is:
103. xi. HEBER9 PERSINGER,
b. May 10, 1884, Illinois, may have been adopted by John; d. 1945, Flora, IL;
bur. Elmwood Cem, Flora, IL.
35. MARTHA ELLEN8 PERSINGER (HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1856 in Indiana- prob. w/o Wm.D.Thompson, and died Bet. 1880 - 1891. She married WILLIAM DAILY THOMPSON Nov
11, 1874 in His 1st marriage, son of DAVID THOMPSON and MARY HUFFMAN. He
was born Dec 02, 1849, and died May 22, 1930 in Bur. at Thompson Cem.,
Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN.
Notes for MARTHA ELLEN PERSINGER:
This letter from Mike
Dean in 2000. It didn't mean anything to
me til I did more work on Henry Persinger's family:
My ggrandparents David
Dean and Della Thompson married in Richland Co. IL(right next door to Wayne and
Clay Counties) in 1893. Della listed her
parents as William D.
Thompson and Martha Persinger of IN.,
but I haven't
been able to find
anything on them - have you come across anything on this
union? Another
possible clue is that David Dean's brother James A. married a woman named Wilma
Mae Simpson - she listed her parents as William Simpson and Nancy Persinger.
Since Della and Wilma were both born in 1875 I'm guessing that there might be a
connection - perhaps their mothers were cousins or maybe even sisters. Any info
you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Looking forward to
hearing from you,
Mike Dean
mike.dean@kctcs.net
--------------------------------
1880:
Believe this is
probably them - name here for Father probably is correct since we know
William's middle initial was "D".
Daily THOMPSON Self M Male W 30 IN Farming
TN IN
Martha E. THOMPSON Wife S Female W 25 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Viola D. THOMPSON Dau S Female W 4 IN IN IN
Cora E. THOMPSON Dau S Female W 2 IN IN IN
Rhoda S. THOMPSON Dau S Female W 8M IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 442A
Notes for WILLIAM DAILY THOMPSON:
THOMPSON, WILLIAM (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 51, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 79
Children of MARTHA PERSINGER
and WILLIAM THOMPSON are:
i. VIOLA DELLA9 THOMPSON,
b. Aug 1875, IN; at Richland Co, IL 1900; m. DAVID DEAN, Sep 27, 1893, Richland
Co, IL; Vol. 3, License # 67; b. Jun
1869, OH-he must have remarried to Jennie by 1920.
Notes for VIOLA DELLA THOMPSON:
DEAN, DAVID to THOMPSON, DELLA
09/27/1893
Vol. 003/ Lic # 00000127 RICHLAND Co, IL
DEAN, DAVID (1900 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , RICHLAND,
MADISON TWP
Age: 31, Male, Race: WHITE,
Born: OH
Series: T623 Roll: 338
Page: 77
The above census shows
Della had 3 children but none alive by 1900 and it shows they had been married
6 yrs. They are living next door to a
Sarah Jane Dean, 59, from Virginia, and her daughter, Emma B. born at Ohio- who
I suspect is David's mother but I cannot find James & David living with a
mother Sarah on any 1880 census. - ag
ii. CORA ELLEN THOMPSON, b. Nov 1877, IN; d. Sep 23, 1905, died 6
months after marriage; m. GEORGE HENRY MCPIKE, Mar 06, 1895; b. Jul 1870; d. 1950.
Notes for CORA ELLEN THOMPSON:
1900 - No children and
have been married 5 yrs.
MCPIKE, GEORG H (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
BROWN TWP
Age: 30, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 18
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1910- Cora has died,
but George is remarried
at least I presume this
is him - there appears to be
2 children, one is
probably Cora's as HE is 9 yrs.
the other 3, but the
entire sheet is nearly illegible.
More About CORA ELLEN THOMPSON:
Burial: Thompson
Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Washington County, Indiana
Notes for GEORGE HENRY MCPIKE:
(1920 U.S. Census) -
here with his 2nd wife Mary
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 35, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 471
Page: 164
More About GEORGE HENRY MCPIKE:
Burial: Thompson
Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Washington County, Indiana
104. iii. RHODA LILLIAN THOMPSON, b. Oct 12, 1879, IN; d. Nov 21, 1914.
36. NANCY ANN8 PERSINGER (HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1857 in Indiana, and died Aft. 1880. She
married WILLIAM SIMPSON Oct 28, 1874 in Washington Co, IN - Book I,
Page 12. He was born Abt. 1856, and died
Bef. 1881.
Notes for NANCY ANN PERSINGER:
1880 - Assuming below
that Willie M. Simpson is daughter not son of Nancy, and that Nancy is Nancy
Persinger, either widowed by 1880 or husband gone for other reasons:
Mary A. PERSINGER Self W Female W 60 IN Keeping House
PA TN
Collumbus ENGLAND Son S Male W 40 IN Carpenter
IN IN
Marion ENGLAND
Son S Male W 35 IN Engineer
IN IN
Sarah P. RESTER Dau W Female W 27 IN Housekeeper
IN IN
Nancy SIMPSON
Dau W Female W 23 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Willie M. SIMPSON Son S Male W 5 IN IN IN
Stephen RESTER
Nephew S Male W 2 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 437C
Child of NANCY PERSINGER
and WILLIAM SIMPSON is:
105. i. WILLIE MAE9 SIMPSON,
b. Nov 28, 1875, Indiana; d. Aft. 1880.
37. MARY8 DOWNING (MARTHA "MATTIE"7 PERSINGER, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 07, 1833 in Washington Co, IN- Jean Cummings' G-GM, and died Jan 29, 1911
in Mechanicsville, IA. She married WILLIAM ELLIOTT
Jan 05, 1855, son of ROBERT ELLIOTT. He
was born Jan 24, 1829 in Washington Co, IN, and died Mar 05, 1917 in Cheney,
KS- went to Cedar Co, IA in 1850.
More About WILLIAM ELLIOTT:
Burial: Union Cem,
near Mechanicsville, IA
Children of MARY DOWNING and WILLIAM ELLIOTT
are:
i. WILLIAM ELNATHAN9 ELLIOTT,
b. Oct 19, 1855.
ii. ANAH SYLVANNUS ELLIOTT, b. Jan 03, 1858.
iii. ROBERT EZRA ELLIOTT, b. Dec 21, 1860.
iv. THADDEUS BENTON ELLIOTT, b. Mar 23, 1865.
v. ALBERT EARNEST ELLIOTT, b. Dec 28, 1872.
vi. MATTIE "KITTIE" ELIZABETH ELLIOTT, b. Oct 10, 1874.
Generation No. 4
38. MARY CATHERINE9 PERSINGER (KENNETH A.8, JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1834. She married WILLIAM GRANGER SMITH Dec
31, 1853 in Kanawha Co, VA. He was born
Abt. 1832.
Child of MARY PERSINGER and
WILLIAM
SMITH is:
i. SAVANNAH10 SMITH, b.
Abt. 1860; m. JOHN FISHER; b. Abt. 1860.
39. SARAH JANE9 PERSINGER (KENNETH A.8, JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 15, 1840 in Or Sally, and died Apr 03, 1931 in Ogden, UT. She married ELISHA TANHILL JONES Jan
21, 1858 in Kanawha Co, VA. He was born
Nov 01, 1833 in Jackson Co, OH, and died Oct 18, 1901 in WV.
Children of SARAH PERSINGER
and ELISHA JONES are:
i. JOSEPH WILSON10 JONES, b.
Nov 12, 1858, WV; d. Mar 24, 1946, Menan, Jefferson Co, ID.
ii. THOMAS KENNETH JONES, b. Apr 24, 1860, WV; d. Aug 11, 1940.
iii. ELISHA CALVIN JONES, b. Aug 28, 1862, WV.
iv. SUSAN ELLEN JONES, b. Jul 25, 1866, WV; d. Sep 09, 1936.
v. MARY ELIZABETH JONES, b. Aug 10, 1868, WV; d. Jul 02, 1952.
vi. LEWIS ALLEN JONES, b. Nov 10, 1870, WV; d. Mar 20, 1952.
vii. SIMON FESTUS JONES, b. Oct 06, 1872, WV; d. Oct 24, 1947.
viii. WILLIAM EDMUNDS JONES, b. Aug 24, 1875, WV; d. Aug 22, 1955.
ix. ZIPPORAH BETHANIAH JONES, b. Apr 21, 1878, WV; d. Jan 13, 1967, Santa
Ana, CA.
40. RACHEL9 PERSINGER (KENNETH A.8, JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1847, and died 1918 in Bur. Clark Cem, Kelly's Crk, Sissonville. She married WILLIAM MARTIN May 02, 1866 in
Kanawha Co, VA. He was born Abt. 1842.
Child of RACHEL PERSINGER
and WILLIAM MARTIN is:
i. CORA BELLE10 MARTIN,
b. Abt. 1870; m. THOMAS ALBERT WITT; b. Abt. 1878.
41. MARGARET FRANCIS9 REYNOLDS (SARAH NEWTON8 PERSINGER, JACOB7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 26, 1844 in Kanawha Co, WV, and died Aug 10, 1918 in Moroni, Sanpete, UT -
all from LDS records. She married WILLIAM POULSON MOUSLEY
Dec 27, 1868 in Turkey Nec, Madison Co, MO.
He was born Oct 22, 1821 in Wilmington, DE, and died May 30, 1880 in
Moroni, Sanpete, UT.
Children of MARGARET REYNOLDS
and WILLIAM MOUSLEY are:
i. SARAH ANN10 MOUSLEY,
b. Nov 19, 1869, Salt Lake City, UT; d. Sep 01, 1945, Ely, NV.
ii. CHARLES TITUS MOUSLEY, b. Dec 13, 1870, Moroni, Sanpete, UT; d. Nov
03, 1875, Age 4 yrs..
iii. MARGARET FRANCIS MOUSLEY, b. Mar 26, 1872, Salt Lake City, UT; d. Aug
29, 1955, Pleasant Grove, UT.
iv. CLARA MEANA MOUSLEY, b. Apr 03, 1873, Salt Lake City, UT; d. May
08, 1958, Bountiful, UT; m. RASTUS PETER JUSTESEN, Nov 13, 1890, Moroni, Sanpete, UT; b. Abt.
1872.
v. BERTHA MARIA MOUSLEY, b. Dec 25, 1875, Moroni, Sanpete, UT; d. Feb
19, 1964.
vi. WILLIOMETTE MOUSLEY, b. Apr 19, 1878, Moroni, Sanpete, UT; d. Jun
26, 1965; m. ORSON MUNSON, Feb 06, 1896; b. Abt. 1876.
42. MARYETTA9 PERSINGER (ELIAS E.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Aug 19, 1839 in Tuscaloosa Co, Alabama; prob. Northport, and died Mar 17, 1885
in Northport, AL; She was Thomas' 1st wife.
She married THOMAS FRANKLIN RICE Sep 02, 1859 in Tuscaloosa Co, Alabama or Sept.
6?, son of JAMES RICE and MARIA FILES. He was
born Jul 13, 1835 in Tuscaloosa Co, AL; or July 17, 1836, and died Sep 16, 1897
in Northport, AL.
Notes for MARYETTA PERSINGER:
September 23,
2005: Just received marriage information
from the Tuscaloosa Library that shows Mary Etta Persinger married Thomas
Franklin Rice Sept 1859. Then have found
them in census records below:
1860: She is listed here as MaryEtta, just as in
1850 when she was with her parents, but she had only been married less than a
year to Thomas, and have no children as yet. Also, this is one census page away from her
Father, Elias, so they were living very near her parents then, but living with
a head of household, Lafayette Cole, whom I cannot as yet connect to them in
any familial way:
RICE, TOMAS T (1860 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , TUSCALOOSA,
N PORT P O
Age: 24, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: M653 Roll: 25
Page: 710
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I believe but have not
yet proven this Lula below on the 1880 Northport cenus to be Mary Etta's
daughter. This is based on the 1900
& 1910 census showing this same couple still at Northport, with a man,
Winfield S. Persinger, born about 1855, who is shown as an Uncle of one of
these two - Lula is shown in those later years as Louise, a common name throughout Elias' Family as that was the name of Elias
Srs' wife and it is carried down through several later generations of Elias'...
also, I think George would be too old to be a son of Mary Etta, but Lula being
5 yrs younger would fit well, with Mary Etta born 1840. I'm assuming Winfield is the same man as
Walter S. on the 1860 census. That may
seem odd, but on that same census, brother Albert B. is shown as Abner. I think the census taker didn't understand
them well. As of Sept. 23rd, 05, I
believe I have enough evidence showing the child Lula is wife of George
Christian and will show the line in the database as such.
1880:
George CHRISTIAN Self
M Male W 24
AL Clerks In Store AL MS
Lula CHRISTIAN
Wife
M Female W 19 AL Keeping House AL AL
Jackson Other S Male
B 30 AL
Domestic Svt AL AL
Source Information:
Census
Place Northport, Tuscaloosa,
Alabama
Family
History Library Film 1254033
NA
Film Number T9-0033
Page
Number 574A
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This theory is
corroborated more, as I have found Thomas & Mary on the 1870 census with 10
yr. old daughter, Lula M. - same first name as George Christian's wife in
1880. And the 1880 census below still
shows Mary Etta alive in 1880 with more children. The Tuscaloosa records sent me show Thomas
married later to Mrs. Harriett Watson, but no date for their marriage. Note
Marietta says her Father is from Virginia:
1880:
Thomas F. RICE
Self M Male
W 44 AL Merchant SC SC
Marietta RICE Wife
M Female W 40 AL Keeping
House VA AL
Katy RICE Dau
S Female W 16 AL At School AL
AL
Nettie RICE Dau
S Female W 8 AL AL AL
Charles RICE
Brother S Male W
40 AL Merchant SC SC
James SMITH
Other S Male
W 63 AL Merchant VA
VA
Source Information:
Census
Place Northport, Tuscaloosa,
Alabama
Family
History Library Film 1254033
NA
Film Number T9-0033
Page
Number 570B
Children of MARYETTA PERSINGER and
THOMAS
RICE are:
i. LULA M.10 RICE, b.
Dec 1860, Alabama; d. Aft. 1920, They are at Northport thru 1920; m. GEORGE CHRISTIAN,
Abt. 1879; b. Jan 1856, Alabama; d. Aft. 1920.
Notes for LULA M. RICE:
1880:
George CHRISTIAN Self
M Male W
24 AL Clerks In Store AL MS
Lula CHRISTIAN
Wif
M Female
W 19 AL Keeping House AL AL
Jackson Other S
Male
B 30 AL Domestic Svt AL
AL
Source Information:
Census
Place Northport, Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Family
History Library Film 1254033
NA
Film Number T9-0033
Page
Number 574A
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CHRISTIAN, GEORGE (1900 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , TUSCALOOSA,
NORTHPORT
Age: 44, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: T623 Roll: 42
Page: 95
This shows them living
with a border, Winfield Persinger.
1900 census has a
listing of George Christian, 44 and wife Lula, 39. Others in the household are son, Thomas,18;
sis-in-law Genie Rice, 19; Uncle Charles E. Rice 45; Uncle Winfield Persinger,
45; two boarders, John B. and John H. Anders, 52 & 23; then 2 servants, Chap
(?) Jenkins and Peter Williams, 39 & 26.
George, the head of the house is listed as a merchant along with Charles
Rice. Winfield Persinger is a salesman
as is John H. Anders. John B. Anders is
a bookkeeeper. Mr. Jenkins is a wagoner
and Mr. Williams is a cook.
ii. KATIE RICE, b. 1863, Alabama; d. Aft. 1880.
iii. NETTIE RICE, b. 1871, Alabama; d. Aft. 1880.
iv. GENIE RICE, b. Feb 28, 1881, Northport, Alabama; d. Feb 21,
1958, Tuscaloosa Co, AL;On 1900 census w. sister Lula; m. JOSEPH EMIL SHIRLEY, Dec
10, 1902, Northport, AL; b. Jan 30, 1880, Pickens Co, AL; d. Mar 31, 1949,
Northport, AL.
43. JOHN C.9 PERSINGER (ELIAS E.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1845 in AL-middle name probably Curling (for Mother)?, and died Aft. Apr 1910
in living at Dallas, Texas on 1910 census w. no children shown. He married FANNIE (?) PERSINGER
1877 in based on 33 yrs. married on 1910 census. She was born 1855 in Alabama on 1880 cen.;
Mississippi-From 1910 census, and died Aft. Apr 1910.
Notes for JOHN C. PERSINGER:
1880:
John PERSINGER Self M Male W 34 AL Clerk In Warehouse VA SC
Fannie PERSINGER Wife M Female W 25 AL Keeping House AL MS
Wiley F. E. PERSINGER Son S Male W 1 AL AL AL
Source Information:
Census
Place Northport, Tuscaloosa,
Alabama
Family
History Library Film 1254033
NA
Film Number T9-0033
Page
Number 570A
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1900- Cannot find him
this census.
1910:
PERSINGER, J C (1910 U.S. Census)
TEXAS , DALLAS, 3-WD
DALLAS
Age: 60, Male, Race: WHITE,
Born: AL
Series: T624 Roll:
1543 Page: 163
This census shows
John's wife, Fannie had 2 children, but none living in 1910. John is shown with occupation: Machinist
Child of JOHN PERSINGER and
FANNIE
PERSINGER is:
i. WILEY F. E.10 PERSINGER,
b. 1879, Alabama- from 1880 census; d. Bef. Apr 1910, Mother lists no children
living by 1910.
44. ELIAS INDIANA9 PERSINGER, M.D. (ELIAS E.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 15, 1849 in Northport, AL; prob. had one child, Ida, d/o Ida, and died Jun
28, 1933 in living at Mansfield, LA in 1900-20; Physician. He married (1) IDA LUCELLA HART May
21, 1879 in Campti, LA- His 1st wife, daughter of SIMEON HART and EMILY MCDANIEL. She was born Sep 20, 1859 in Campti,
Natchitoches Parish. Lousiana, and died Aug 18, 1882 in Campti, Lousiana. He married (2) ALICE HART Mar 22,
1884 in His 2nd wife, daughter of SIMEON HART and EMILY MCDANIEL. She was
born Jan 24, 1865 in She was Elias' 2nd wife, sister of 1st wife, and died Sep
13, 1887 in Campti, Louisiana. He
married (3) ELEANOR "ELLA" ELIZABETH FARR Mar 27, 1889 in Fort Gratiot, St Clair Co. MI;
his 3rd wife. She was born Sep 1853 in
Fargo, St Clair, Michigan-name from LDS records, and died Mar 20, 1935 in
Mansfield, LA.
Notes for ELIAS INDIANA PERSINGER, M.D.:
From "DeSoto
Parish History, Volume 1", this part written by Edith Buecker, his
Grandaughter:
My Grandfather
attended the University of NY, Dept. of Medicine 1872-73 and Medical Dept.,
Tulane Univer. of Louisiana 1892-93. He
married May 21, 1879 to Lucella HART of Campti, Natchitoches Parish, LA. She died Augl 18, 1882. He married March 22, 1884 to Alice Hart,
Lucella's sister also of Campti, LA. She
was born January 24, 1865, died Sept.
13, 1887 at Campti, LA. Dr. Persinger
married March 27, 1889 to Ellen Elizabeth FARR, Port Huron, Michigan. She died March 20, 1935. They lived at Campti, LA until moving to
Mansfield LA.
1880:
Elias PERSINGER Self M Male W 30 AL Physician
VA SC
Ida PERSINGER
Wife M Female W 25 LA Keeping House
GER MS
Delia FENIES
Other Female B 52 SC Keeping House
SC SC
Marcille NELSON Other Female B 22 LA Keeping House
LA LA
Mary ZOZETTE
Other Female B 55 LA Cook LA LA
Gassie GASSELITE Other Female B 60 VA Cripple
VA VA
Betsy WILLIAMS
Other W Female B 55 NC Keeping House
NC NC
Source Information:
Census
Place 4th Ward, Natchitoches,
Louisiana
Family
History Library Film 1254457
NA
Film Number T9-0457
Page
Number 610B
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Below From:
St. Clair County,
Michigan Marriages
1887-1898, Book 4,
Volume 1
27 March 1889, Fort
Gratiot
Elias I. Persinger,
39, W, Campti, LA, b. Alabama, Physician, P: Elias Persinger & Louisa
Curling, twice
Ella E. Farr, 34, W,
Fort Gratiot, b. Fargo, School Teacher, P: C.P. Farr
C.P. Farr & Maggie
Farr, both of Fort Gratiot; G.W. Jennings, Min.
Wonder what Elias now
is doing at Michigan; he certainly traveled more than most in that era- ed/ ag
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PERSINGER, ELESS
I (1900 U.S. Census)
LOUISIANA , DE SOTO,
MANSFIELD
Age: 51, Male, Race: WHITE,
Born: AL
Series: T623 Roll: 563
Page: 116
This is
Mansfield, DeSoto Parish, Louisiana
and it looks more like
Elias than Eless to me.
And, he is again
listed as a physician, but with wife, Ella from Michigan, so I assume Ida in
1880 was a 1st wife, and Ella in 1900 a 2nd wife.
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PERSUGE, ELIAS I (1910 U.S. Census)
LOUISIANA , DE SOTO,
4-WD POLICE JURY
Age: 61, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: T624 Roll: 512
Page: 125
This time it is his
last name that is buthered, but it is for certain him; Shows no number by number of children for he
and wife. Not a zero or any digit.
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PERSINGER, ELIAS (1920 U.S. Census)
LOUISIANA , DE SOTO,
6-WD; MANSFIELD
Age: 69, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: T625 Roll: 610
Page: 169
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A wonderful response
below to my query on the Rootsweb site for De Soto Parish, LA.
I just picked up your
inquiry about Ida Louise Persinger (Taliaferro), b. 8/13/1882.
I looked her up in my
copy of the DeSoto Parish History book (family histories prepared by
descendants, published in 1995) - there is a 2+ column on the Persinger family
prepared by Edith Buecker (also a descendant of Ida Louise Persinger
Taliaferro).
It says that she died
May 13, 1972 in Mansfield, Louisiana. It
confirms that her parents were Elias Indiana and Ida Lucella Hart Persinger of
Campti, Natchitoches LA.
Do I have the right
person here?
The bio starts with
Elias Indiana Persinger, b. 4/15/1849 in Northport, Tuscaloosa County, Alabama
.
If you wish I could
make you a copy of this entry and send it to you.
If you are a
descendant of Ida Louise Persinger Taliaferro, you may want to try and track
down Edith Buecker, who is a descendant and evidently has a lot of information
on this family.
The contributors to
the book don't have contact info available - Let's see; Edith's maiden name,
she states, was Edith Taliaferro, and she was born in 1919. She married first Grover Cleveland Teacle ..
and then married in 1944 to William Henlee Buecker.
Let me know if you
would like a copy of this information.
Nancy Wilson loosechips@aol.com
Notes for ELEANOR "ELLA" ELIZABETH FARR:
Her Birth year gets
later with each census. She is 46 in
1900, 54 in 1910 & 62 in 1920, the latter being consistent with her
gravestone which says 1858-1935, but I lean toward the 1900 census being most
accurate, in which it not only clearly says 46 yrs, but also clearly shows
Birth year as 1853.
Child of ELIAS PERSINGER
and IDA
HART is:
i. IDA LOUISE10
PERSINGER, b. Aug 13, 1882, Campti, Louisiana; d. May 13, 1972, Mansfield, LA;
Mother of Edith Buecker; m. ALANSON PEARCE TALIAFERRO, Nov 21, 1916, Mansfield, LA; b. Jun 30,
1870, Evergreen, LA; d. Feb 09, 1944, Mansfield, LA.
Notes for IDA LOUISE PERSINGER:
From DeSoto Parish
History:
Ida Louise graduated
from Manfield Female College 6-10-1903 and later from the Schumpert Memorial
Training School For Nurses 6-3-1908.
Occupation Registered Nurse.
45. ALBERT BENJAMIN9 PERSINGER (ELIAS E.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 07, 1851 in Northport, AL; Abner on 1860 Cen., and died Apr 19, 1932 in
Nebraska; lived between Lodgepole & Chappel, Nebraska. He married (1) MARY ADAMS Jan
1880, daughter of CHARLES ADAMS. She was
born Abt. 1858 in Cornwall, Ontario, Canada, and died 1885 in Canada;
Tuberculosis. He married (2) HARRIET E. (?) PERSINGER
Abt. 1886. She was born Feb 1865 in NY,
and died Dec 1901.
Notes for ALBERT BENJAMIN
PERSINGER:
Taken from a book on
Nebraska which was published in 1932
(this sent to me by Marvin Persinger in March 2003).
Albert Benjamin
Persinger born at North Port, Alabama, May 7, 1851, Albert Benjamin Persinger
is the son of Elias and Louisa (Curling) Persinger. His father was born in
Virginia in 1807 and his mother in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Mr Persinger came to Nebraska 56 years ago
and at the present time is the owner of the Hardscrable Ranch located 2 miles
East of Loge Pole in Duel County.
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PERSINGER, ABERT
B (1900 U.S. Census)
NEBRASKA , DEUEL,
GREEN PCT
Age: 49, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: T623 Roll: 922
Page: 233
This 1900 census
suggests the wife, Harriett from NY, may have been Albert B's 2nd wife, as the
only child in 1900 shows herself born at Canada, and her Mother born at Canada,
plus if I read this census correctly, it appears Harriett & Albert were only
married 9 yrs. or about 1891, 2 years after Marry was born and it shows
Harriett from NY, not Canada.
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He is listed on the
1910 census, still at Deuel Co, Nebraska, living alone age 59, widowed, born
AL, Father from VA but Mother shown from SC.
This is on Roll 842, Page 192.
This spelling of Deuel Co. is correct, but may be erroneously shown as
Duel. This land mentioned in Nebraska
must have been on the far Western edge of Deuel Co, since the town of Lodgepole
is at the far Eastern edge of Cheyenne Co. - so I presume the Ranch was at the
border between those two counties. In
1860 he appears on the Tuscaloosa Co, Alabama census with his parents, but
appears to show Abner B. then... probably census takers error. I cannot find any Persingers currently
listed in phone directories of this area in Nebraska or in the Tuscaloosa Co,
AL areas.
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From other historical
books on Nebraska:
"Albert B. Persinger, one of the leading
old settlers of western Nebraska, went to that locality when it was in its most
undeveloped state, and has remained to build up a fine property and become
recognized as one of the substantial citizens of that part of the country. He resides
in Chappel precinct, Deuel county, and is one of the largest landowners in that
county, owning and controlling four thousand five hundred acres, in and around
section 4, township 14, range 46, Deuel county, and ranges over fifteen
thousand acres.
Mr.
Persinger was born in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, on May 7, 1851, and lived in his
home county up to the age of twenty-five years. During his young manhood he
followed newspaper work, and was publisher and editor of several papers in
Alabama, among them the Northport Spectator, published at Northport, the
Mountain Eagle, published at Jasper, the Birmingham Iron Age, and others. Later
on he became agent for the Drake line of steamboats, running from Tuscaloosa to
Mobile, and remained at that work for a number of years".
--------------------------------
November 2005, I
received emails from Chuck Gerdau at the local historical group, Friends of
Historic Northport - their website:
www.friendsofhistoricnorthport.org
Chuck has written me
quite a bit of history on the Elias Persinger family- this about Albert B:
"He died in
Northport where he returned from Nebraska.
He suffered from excema, and his son in law Dr. George Searcy tended to
him in his last days. A.B. was returned
for burial in Nebraska. I have been working
on the Searcy connection as well, including a daughter Harriet Searcy Murphy.
A.B Persinger and
William R. Smith published the Northport Spectator from 1870 to 1873 in the
upper story of the Christian store, next door to the Christian Home.
A.B. Persinger married
January 1880 Mary Adams from Cornwall Ontario Canada. First child Charlotte Estelle B. Sidney NE
Oct 1880.
In 1881 Mrs.
Persinger's mother became ill in Canada.
Mrs, Persinger never returned to Nebraska even after her mother's death,
and A.B. began commuting between Ontario and Nebraska and raised sheep between
Nebraska and New Mexico. In Canadathey had Douglas in May 1882 and Mary in Feb
1884. Douglas died in 1883 and Mrs.
Persinger developed tuberculosis in 1885 and died that year. The two daughters lived with their g-father
Charles Adams in Ontario until 1893 when they moved to Nebraska with their
father and stepmother H.P. Persinger (Harriett?). Charlotte died 1895. the 2nd Mrs. Persinger died Dec 1901. Mary (b. Feb 1884) either came to school in
Tuscaloosa AL or was visiting relatives when she met Dr. George Searcy and
married him in 1908. From there the many
relatives of Dr. Searcy would visit Persinger's ranch in Nebraska (Hardscrabble
Ranch).
Children of ALBERT PERSINGER
and MARY ADAMS are:
i. CHARLOTTE ESTELLE10
PERSINGER, b. Oct 1880, Sidney, Nebraska; d. 1895, About 15 yrs. old.
ii. DOUGLAS PERSINGER, b. May 1882, Canada; d. 1883, Approx. 1 yr.
old.
iii. MARY PERSINGER, b. Feb 1884, Canada; d. Aft. 1908; m. GEORGE SEARCY, M.D., 1908; b. Abt.
1884.
46. JESSE C.9 PERSINGER, REV. (ELIAS E.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 1863 in Alabama, and died Nov 09, 1953 in Jefferson Co, AL; could 1953 be
his son ?At Jacksonville, AL- Calhoun Co. 1930.
He married MARY E. NABORS Sep 19, 1889 in Pickens Co, AL. She was born May 1858 in Alabama, and died
Aft. Apr 14, 1930.
Notes for JESSE C. PERSINGER, REV.:
See him with his
Mother & Sister in on the census of 1870 & 1880 both at Fayette Co. - I
show the images in their Father, Elias' scrapook for ease of comparison and
consistency even though Elias has already died. By 1900 they both show up in Alabama -
neither in Tuscaloosa Co. Jessie is at
Jefferson Co. and his Mother Martelia is still at Fayette Co. - this is where
LDS records claim she was born, which is likely since she is living with her
parents in 1870 & 80. - Jessie has named his first daughter,
Martelia. In 1900, Elias' 2nd wife,
Martelia reports she only has had 2 children and only one living, implying that
Ella has died by 1900.
PERSINGER, JASSIE
C (1900 U.S. Census)
ALABAMA , JEFFERSON,
WARRIOR
Age: 37, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: AL
Series: T623 Roll: 21
Page: 5
This first name
appears like Jessie to me - not Jassie.
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Year: 1930; Census
Place: Jacksonville, Calhoun, Alabama; Roll: 5; Page: 19B; Enumeration
District: 2
Here he says he is a
minister at a Methodist Church. I
cannot find them in 1910 or 1920.
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Have found a marriage
at Pickens Co, Alabama of J.C. Persinger to M. E. Nabors - on Sept. 19,
1889. This date and initials are correct
for both, but the county is on the far western side of the state. Whereas Calhoun Co. is on the far eastern
side and Jefferson Co., where Birmingham is -is at the center.
-----------------------------------------
There is a death record
for a Jesse C. Persinger, Nov. 9, 1953, Jefferson Co, AL, Volume 46,
Certificate # 22559, Roll 6, but it doesn't give his age. Would make the father 90 yrs. old, so may be
his son, who I thought had middle initial "R" instead of his Father's
"C".
Children of JESSE PERSINGER
and MARY NABORS are:
i. MARTELIA O.10
PERSINGER, b. Jul 1890, Alabama; d. Aft. Jun 06, 1900.
ii. JESSIE R. PERSINGER, b. Nov 1891, Alabama; d. Aft. Jun 06, 1900.
iii. MARY B. PERSINGER, b. Mar 1894, Alabama; d. Aft. Jun 06, 1900.
47. SARAH MARIAH9 PERSINGER (BENJAMIN8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 12, 1837 in Indiana -only child of Benjamin & Mary Polly, and died Apr
25, 1919 in need her Obit & Death Certificate. She married WILLIAM MARTIN GOODPASTURE
Feb 21, 1861, son of DAVID GOODPASTURE and REBECCA PEUGH. He was
born Mar 02, 1836 in Bath, KY; occ. shown as GOODPASTER, and died Jan 27, 1919
in Civil War Vet, Bur. w Sarah, Washington Co..
Notes for SARAH MARIAH PERSINGER:
See them on the same
1970 census sheet with her parents.
More About SARAH MARIAH PERSINGER:
Burial: Thompson Cem.,
Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Notes for WILLIAM MARTIN
GOODPASTURE:
1880, they had moved
to Mattoon, IL at Coles Co:
Wm. GOODPASTURE Self M Male W 44 KY Farmer KY VA
S. M. GOODPASTURE Wife M Female W 43 IN Keeps House
IN PA
Mary GOODPASTURE Dau Female W 14 IN At School
KY IN
Ollie A. GOODPASTURE Dau S Female W 12 IN At School
KY IN
Benjamin F. GOODPASTURE Son S Male W 11 IN At
School KY IN
Cora D. GOODPASTURE Dau S Female W 9 IN At
School KY IN
Lilly E. GOODPASTURE Dau S Female W 7 IN At
School KY IN
Charles N. GOODPASTURE Son S Male W 3 IN KY IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Mattoon, Coles, Illinois
Family
History Library Film 1254183
NA
Film Number T9-0183
Page
Number 197B
1900
> Indiana >
WASHINGTON > JEFFERSON TWP Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 73
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LDS submitters of Wm.
Martin Goodpasture information
HELEN PURVIS Microfilm: 1394393
50 15 WYMOSE
BOISE ID Submission: AF83-098876
USA 83703
Bill & Peggy TATE
2514 Prairie Oak Trl
Woodbury MN 55125-7618
Children of SARAH PERSINGER
and WILLIAM GOODPASTURE are:
i. ANNA BELLE10
GOODPASTURE, b. Jan 06, 1862; d. Mar 31, 1927, moved to Iowa; m. ISIAH BOLING, Jan
08, 1878; b. Abt. 1860.
ii. MARY LENORA GOODPASTURE, b. Jan 06, 1866, Washington Co, IN; d.
Jul 20, 1925, This couple buried at Walnut Ridge Cem.; m. WILLIAM ASBURY KEMP, Jan
25, 1883; b. Aug 10, 1856; d. Feb 19, 1937, Bur. at Jefferson Twp, Washington
Co..
Notes for WILLIAM ASBURY KEMP:
1900 - Couple shown
here with 4 sons:
KEMP, WILLIAM A (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 44, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 82
More About WILLIAM ASBURY KEMP:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem, Washington Co, IN
iii. OLLIE A. GOODPASTURE, b. Feb 07, 1868, Indiana; d. Sep 21,
1940; m. WILFORD JOHNSON, Mar 31, 1886; b. Mar 1862, IN; children from
1910 census; d. Jul 12, 1928.
More About OLLIE A. GOODPASTURE:
Burial: Thompson Cem.
Notes for WILFORD JOHNSON:
1900 U.S. Census
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 79
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1910 census - with
Family and father John, who is believed to be Mary Ann Abbott's 2nd husband.
More About WILFORD JOHNSON:
Burial: Thompson Cem.,
Washington Co, IN
iv. BENJAMIN F. GOODPASTURE, b. Feb 11, 1869; d. Apr 23, 1949; m. (1)
IDA
GULLETT, Dec 24, 1890, Salem, IN; this
is his first wife; b. Abt. 1870; d. Ben divorced her April 7, 1898; m. (2) ANNA GRIFFIN, Nov
14, 1900, This is his 2nd wife; b. Abt. 1875.
v. CORA REBECCA DEAN GOODPASTURE, b. Feb 27, 1871; d. Oct 08, 1949; m. ELMER BENNETT, Sep
23, 1891; b. Jun 1869, Indiana; d. Aft. 1900.
vi. DAVID CLARENCE GOODPASTURE, b. Oct 30, 1872, died as a 2 week old
infant; d. Nov 14, 1872.
vii. LILLIE E. GOODPASTURE, b. Feb 02, 1874; d. Jul 18, 1902, Buried
at Walnut Ridge Cem, Jefferson Twp,; m. HOMER BARNETT, Oct 05, 1890; b. Jan 31, 1869, information
supplied by Betty Peden Fletcher; d. Jan 24, 1954.
More About LILLIE E. GOODPASTURE:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem, Washington Co, IN
More About HOMER BARNETT:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
viii. ELMA GERTRUDE GOODPASTURE, b. Aug 09, 1883; d. Jul 27, 1920, she
also married #2 Dallas ALTE; m. OWEN HUNSUCKER, Jan 09, 1903; b. Abt. 1880.
ix. CHARLES N. GOODPASTURE, b. 1886; m. SARAH JANIE HALEY, Jun
12, 1903, or is it Dec. 6, 1903 ?; b. Nov 09, 1882, IN- or Nov. 1881, per 1900
cen.; d. Jan 06, 1923, he also married #2 Janie DALTON ?.
More About SARAH JANIE HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem.
48. SARAH ANN9 LUMLEY (CHARLOTTE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jul 01, 1847 in Missouri- ancestor of Betty Crockett, and died Aft. 1910 in
lived at Holt Co, MO; later married Marion's bro. David. She married MARION SPRINGS Abt. 1871. He was born Abt. 1846 in Illinois, and died
Aft. 1920.
More About SARAH ANN LUMLEY:
Burial: Holt Co, MO
Notes for MARION SPRINGS:
I believe this is
probably he and his parents from the LDS site but there are no children nor
wife of Marion's mentioned:
Thomas Nelson Springs
Wife: Elizebeth Mount
Children
1. Marion Francis Springs
Male
Birth: 20
FEB 1846 Of, , , Missouri
Christening:
Death: 07 AUG
1924
Children of SARAH LUMLEY and MARION SPRINGS
are:
i. RACHEL10 SPRINGS,
b. 1868, probably Step-daughter?.
ii. IDA SPRINGS, b. 1873.
iii. WALTER L. SPRINGS, b. Abt. 1886.
49. CHRISTINA9 LUMLEY (CHARLOTTE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1851 in Missouri- ancestor of Billie Carter Peery, and died 1918 in lived at
Andrew Co, MO, then to Ray Co, MO. She
married (1) ALFRED ALLISON Abt. 1870.
He was born Abt. 1850. She
married (2) GEORGE W. GRAHAM 1874.
He was born Abt. 1850. She
married (3) JOHN WAYNE COVEY 1888. He
was born Abt. 1850.
More About CHRISTINA LUMLEY:
Burial: Todd Chapel
Cem, Richmond, MO
Child of CHRISTINA LUMLEY
and GEORGE GRAHAM is:
i. JESSIE BURNETTA10 GRAHAM,
b. Abt. 1880; m. HENRY ANDREW CARTER; b. Abt. 1880.
50. LUKE PERSINGER9 CHAMBERS (PHEBE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Dec 1838 in Indiana, and died Aft. 1920 in at Council Bluffs, IA 1900-20 -
Pottawattamie Co.. He married MARY (?) CHAMBERS Abt.
1860. She was born Oct 1839 in
Tennessee.
Notes for LUKE PERSINGER
CHAMBERS:
1880:
Luke CHAMBERS
Self M Male W 41 IN Carpenter
IN IN
Mary CHAMBERS
Wife M Female W 40 TN Keeping House
TN TN
William E. CHAMBERS Son S Male W 17 IA IN TN
Olive L. CHAMBERS Dau S Female W 15 IA IN TN
Lydia CHAMBERS
Dau S Female W 13 MO IN TN
Jasper CHAMBERS Son S Male W 12 MO IN TN
Cora B. CHAMBERS Dau S Female W 9 MO IN TN
Lewis CHAMBERS
Son S Male W 7 MO IN TN
Claud CHAMBERS
Son S Male W 4 MO IN TN
Maude CHAMBERS
Dau S Female W 4 MO IN TN
Minnie CHAMBERS Dau S Female W 1 KS IN TN
Anderson HERRELL Other S Male W 28 MO Farmer MO MO
Source Information:
Census
Place Bruno, Butler, Kansas
Family
History Library Film 1254375
NA
Film Number T9-0375
Page
Number 102A
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1900 >
Iowa > POTTAWATTAMIE >
1-WD COUNCIL BLUFFS Series:
T623 Roll: 455 Page: 176
CHAMBERS LUKE
P 62 M W IN
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in 1920 he was living with his daughter, Lutie
and her husband and children:
1920 >
Iowa > POTTAWATTAMIE >
1-WD; COUNCIL BLUFFS; KANE
Series: T625 Roll: 510 Page: 182
CHAMBERS LUKE
P 81 M W IL
These support an
interesting continued migration path:
moved from Indiana to
Iowa before 1862, then to Missouri between 1865-67, then to Kansas between
1876-79, then back to Iowa by 1900 where they were still in 1920. I cannot find him in 1910.
Children of LUKE CHAMBERS and
MARY
CHAMBERS are:
i. WILLARD E.10 CHAMBERS,
b. Nov 1862, Iowa- occupation = dancing teacher in 1900; d. Aft. 1900, name may
be William as on 1880 census; m. MABEL (?) CHAMBERS, 1894; b. Oct 1874, Iowa; d. Aft. 1900.
ii. OLIVE L. CHAMBERS, b. 1865.
iii. LYDIA CHAMBERS, b. 1867.
iv. JASPER CHAMBERS, b. 1868.
v. CORA B. CHAMBERS, b. 1871.
vi. LEWIS CHAMBERS, b. 1873.
vii. CLAUDE CHAMBERS, b. 1876.
viii. MAUDE CHAMBERS, b. 1876.
ix. MINNIE CHAMBERS, b. Jun 1879.
x. LUTIE E. CHAMBERS, b. Mar 1881, Kansas; m. JAMES MCCARGAR; b. 1882,
Iowa.
51. ELIAS RICHARD9 HALEY (CATHERINE E.8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Sep 19, 1842, and died Sep 15, 1893 in Buried @ Haley Cem. Washington Co.. He married JOSPHINE A. STANLEY Oct 29,
1872. She was born Abt. 1842.
Children of ELIAS HALEY and JOSPHINE STANLEY
are:
i. LEVI J.10 HALEY, b.
Jan 17, 1878; d. Dec 08, 1962; m. ANNA RACHEL LITTLE, May 15, 1902; b. Aug 06, 1881; d. Jun 05,
1958.
More About LEVI J. HALEY:
Burial: Old Rush Creek
Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.
More About ANNA RACHEL LITTLE:
Burial: Old Rush Creek
Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Washington County, Indiana
ii. BLAINE H. HALEY, b. May 06, 1885; d. Feb 17, 1966; m. (1) EMMA HOSAPPLE; b.
Abt. 1886; m. (2) JESSIE FREED; b. Abt. 1886.
iii. MINNIE HALEY, b. 1889; d. 1890.
52. MARGARET ESTHER9 HALEY (CATHERINE E.8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Oct 24, 1844 in Indiana, and died Dec 19, 1904 in they are bur. at Rice/ Covenanter
Cem.. She married JOHN ELLIOTT, JR. Feb 17, 1870,
son of JOHN ELLIOTT and MARY STUART. He was
born Jul 17, 1836 in Indiana, and died Dec 11, 1919 in Civil War Vet: Co. C
117th Regt. Ind. Vol. Inf..
Notes for JOHN ELLIOTT, JR.:
1900 >
Indiana > WASHINGTON
> MONROE TWP Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 100
ELLIOTT
JOHN 64 M W IN
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1880
John ELLIOTT
Self
M Male
W 43 IN
Blacksmith-Farmer SC VA
Margaret ELLIOTT Wife
M
Female W 35 IN Keeping House NC
IN
David ELLIOTT
Son S Male W
9 IN IN IN
Catherine ELLIOTT Dau
S
Female W 2 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Monroe, Washington, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 467C
Children of MARGARET HALEY and
JOHN
ELLIOTT are:
i. DAVID10 ELLIOTT,
b. 1871.
ii. CATHERINE ELLIOTT, b. Nov 14, 1877, Indiana -living w. parents
in 1900 at Washington Co, IN; d. Nov 15, 1929, Bur at Crown Hill Cem, Salem,
IN.
53. LUKE W.9 HALEY (CATHERINE E.8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Dec 13, 1845 in IN- or 1846, per 1900 census, and died Aug 29, 1914. He married (1) SARAH J. MCKNIGHT Nov 20,
1870, daughter of JAMES MCKNIGHT and MALINDA CHAMBERS. She
was born May 14, 1850 in IN - these children from 1900 census, and died Apr 05,
1903 in Bur. at Haley Cem.. He married
(2) JANE ANN RAYHILL Mar 14, 1910 in this is a 2nd marriage for both, daughter of HARVEY RAYHILL and
JULIA
SMITH. She was born Sep 28, 1836, and
died Jun 10, 1929 in Bur. at Conenanter/ Rice Cem, Washington Co, IN.
Notes for LUKE W. HALEY:
(1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 73
More About LUKE W. HALEY:
Burial: Haley
Cem. Washington Co, IN
Children of LUKE HALEY and SARAH MCKNIGHT are:
i. THOMAS R.10 HALEY, b.
Sep 1875, IN; d. Aft. 1900.
ii. ELI J. HALEY, b. Jan 1880, IN; d. Aft. 1900.
iii. SARAH JANIE HALEY, b. Nov 09, 1882, IN- or Nov. 1881, per 1900
cen.; d. Jan 06, 1923, he also married #2 Janie DALTON ?; m. CHARLES N. GOODPASTURE, Jun
12, 1903, or is it Dec. 6, 1903 ?; b. 1886.
More About SARAH JANIE HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem.
iv. LUKE HALEY, b. Jan 1884, IN; d. Aft. 1900.
v. NEWTON B. HALEY, b. Jul 1886, IN; d. Aft. 1900.
vi. HERNA H. HALEY, b. Feb 1888, IN- this unusual name is hard to
read - from 1900 cen.; d. Aft. 1900.
vii. ADA B. HALEY, b. Jul 17, 1891, Indiana; d. Feb 05, 1892, Died
at 7 months.
viii. ISAAC A. HALEY, b. Jul 26, 1893, IN; d. Aug 22, 1980, Bur. at
Old Union (Lost River) cem.; m. GLADYS CHASTAIN; b. Sep 23, 1909, Indiana; d. Nov 27, 1996,
Lived at Haines City, Florida in 1996.
54. HENRY JACIN9 HALEY (CATHERINE E.8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 20, 1853 in Indian; this may be 1858, and died Nov 01, 1910 in Buried @
Haley Cem. Washington Co.. He married ELIZABETH S. BOWERS Jan 31,
1882, daughter of JOHN BOWERS and SARAH KENDALL. She
was born Feb 14, 1859, and died Nov 22, 1910.
Children of HENRY HALEY and ELIZABETH BOWERS
are:
i. HENDERSON D.10 HALEY, b.
Jul 1883, Indiana; d. Aft. 1900.
ii. JOHN E. HALEY, b. Apr 1885, Indiana; d. Aft. 1900.
iii. EDWARD M. HALEY, b. Mar 1887, Indiana; d. Aft. 1900.
iv. ELIZA HALEY, b. Dec 11, 1888, Indiana; d. Jan 25, 1929, Bur.
at Plattsburg Cem, Washington Co, IN; m. THED W. MCCLEERY; b. Abt. 1887.
v. MARY ADELINE HALEY, b. Apr 18, 1892, Indiana; only had one child
survive; d. Dec 02, 1935, Bur. at Plattsburg Cem, Washington Co, IN; m. OLIVER GROVER WESTON, Aug
13, 1910; b. Apr 18, 1889; d. Mar 16, 1937, Bur. at Plattsburg Cem. Washington
Co, IN.
vi. MARGARET E. HALEY, b. Nov 1893, Indiana.
vii. FRANCES HALEY, b. Jun 23, 1896, Indiana; d. Aug 20, 1897,
Washington Co, IN.
viii. FLORA A. HALEY, b. Dec 1898, Indiana- twin of Josie.
ix. JOSIE B. HALEY, b. Dec 1898, Indiana- twin of Flora.
55. JOHN PERRY9 HALEY (CATHERINE E.8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 11, 1855 in Indiana, and died Sep 10, 1927.
He married AMANDA MCKNIGHT Jul 06, 1881, daughter of JAMES MCKNIGHT and MALINDA
CHAMBERS. She was born Feb 20, 1860, and
died Jun 21, 1933.
More About JOHN PERRY HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem,
Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
More About AMANDA MCKNIGHT:
Burial: Haley Cem.
Children of JOHN HALEY and AMANDA MCKNIGHT are:
i. OTA "OTIE" MYRTLE10 HALEY, b.
Jul 25, 1890; d. 1949, Austin, IN; m. WILLIAM "DICK" BABBS, Jan 24, 1910, Washington Co, IN; b. Jun 25,
1889; d. Sep 15, 1979.
More About OTA "OTIE" MYRTLE HALEY:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem.
More About WILLIAM "DICK" BABBS:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
ii. OMER HALEY, b. Aug 02, 1894; d. Sep 17, 1897.
More About OMER HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem,
Washington Co, IN
iii. HOBA HALEY, b. Sep 28, 1897; d. Jan 31, 1900.
More About HOBA HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem,
Washington Co, IN
56. JAMES E.9 HALEY (CATHERINE E.8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 19, 1857 in Indiana, and died Feb 20, 1895 in Washington Co.. He married SARAH MARGARET COLLETT
Oct 07, 1886, daughter of ANDREW COLLETT and MARY POLLOCK. She
was born Nov 26, 1866 in IN, and died Jun 14, 1942.
More About JAMES E. HALEY:
Burial: Haley Cem.
Children of JAMES HALEY and SARAH COLLETT are:
i. ANDREW10 HALEY, b.
Feb 1890.
ii. CORA A. HALEY, b. Jun 27, 1891; d. Sep 09, 1941; m. HARRY COLE; b. Abt.
1890.
57. EMILY "EMMA" HARRIETT *9 PERSINGER (ALFRED RICHARD *8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jul 30, 1849 in Washington Co, IN-sometimes went by "Emma", and died
Nov 23, 1885 in Washington Co, IN- Jefferson Twp.. She married AL"FRED" PAIGE * (2) GIBBS
Jan 24, 1870 in Washington Co, Indiana - Buffalo, IN - H 224, son of GEORGE GIBBS and MARY
CHAMBERS. He was born Dec 04, 1848 in
Cincinnati, Ohio (or one source says Knox Co, OH), and died Dec 28, 1913 in
Shattuck, OK - Ellis Co..
Notes for EMILY "EMMA" HARRIETT *
PERSINGER:
After She died in 1885
(At age 36!, I have always presumed this was likely from childbirth of another
child that died but I can find no evidence of this - TB was very prevalent in
the family then - her daughter Grace Gertrude Gibbs was only 18 months old when
her Mother died) then Alfred P. Gibbs remarried 2.5 years later to one of
Emma's Brother's widows (Elizabeth C.) Apparently Elizabeth & Emma's
Brother, William L. PERSINGER had
children making Grace & her sibs not only cousins but later raised as 1/2
sibs with the other family. Apparently
Grace only knew her step mother who was also her Aunt as her only Mother due to
her real Mother's early death @ age 36.
Mrs Lewis (Alice) Smiley & I believe that Olive Persinger Dennis of
Mt Pleasant, MI & Malcolm Persinger of Rockville IN (now California) are
descendents of Elizabeth C. & one of Emma's brothers, William L.
I am now writing with new evidence (see
Alfred's notes also) It is certain now that Alfred's 2nd wife was Elizabeth
C(ora). who was previously married to Emmas' brother Louis. Louis died at age 30. I have still been
unable to determine where Elizabeth died and buried but Alfred's obit. states
he was survived by his wife and since he died in Oklahoma I think it is likely
that she did also, but after 1913. The
records in Sullivan Co, show Cora Elizabeth GIBBS died in Sullivan and is
buried at Center Ridge Cem, but the gravestone is not present in the cemetery,
so I assume she had a pauper's burial as did her 2nd husband, Alfred P.
GIBBS. Neither have gravestones, and
are buried several states apart.
More About EMILY "EMMA" HARRIETT *
PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge Cem.,
Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Notes for AL"FRED" PAIGE * (2) GIBBS:
According to newspaper
clippings far below this, Alfred moved from Washington Co, IN to Sullivan, IN
early April 1897.
1870- note Alfred is
shown living with his parents here even though it is 6 months after his
marriage to Emma. Then Emma is shown
living in a house next door (but the family straddles the census, so some of
the kids and Emma are at the top of the next census page) to George & Mary.... that is certainly
odd... I would imagine that Alfred just happened to be at George's house the
day the census taker came and that Fred presumably lived in that house next
door to his parents with Emma rather than living with his parents ??
1880 - living in
Washington Co. IN with wife Emma H. & children Clarence W., Arthur A.,
& Annie M. (1 y.o.).
1900 -census shows the
family in Sullivan, IN and wife then Cora E., she born July 1857 which
corellates exactly as to what we know about Louis Wm. PERSINGER's wife except
that on the 1880 census, his wife was listed as Elizabeth C.! I assume this is the same person but it is
difficult to be sure. In 1900 the
children living with them were his sons James & Alva, his stepsons Clarence
& Asa Persinger (of Cora E.+L.W. Persinger), & daughter Grace (my
Grandmother). Asa (spelling?) is listed
as a dentist @ age 20! & should have been born of Elizabeth C. PERSINGER.
Alva must have been the only surviving child born of these two parents (2 girls
died in infancy) since he is listed as born in 1893. James & Grace's Mother was the late Emma
H. PERSINGER. As yet I have not
discovered where Alfred, & Cora E.
are buried, but Malcolm insists that his mother took him to the Center
Ridge Cemetary in Sullivan because that is where she claimed the step-Father
&/or Mother was buried; however he vaguely recalls they could not find the
grave. Alfred is also listed in the 1860
census in Washington Co. IN & says was born in Ohio which is consistent
with other records; however that census says he was born in 1849 not 1848. Since George allegedly was in Cincinnati I
suspect this is Alfred's birthplace.
Beatrice (GIBBS) SUTTER says she thinks Alfred had TB and went to live
his final days in Oklahoma with Oliver Gibbs & family and is likely buried
there, probably near the town of Knowles or Shattuck. Also he may have been in town of Elmwood,
near Knowles or I have discovered an Obituary that says he died in Shattuck, OK
which is in the next County to the East.
I doubt that Alfred was buried in Indiana but it is likely that both of
his wives are.
Oct. 1992 - I have now located Emma's grave @
Walnut Ridge Cem. (Jefferson Twp. Washington Co.) (next to the grave of her
brother Louis William Persinger); Interestingly the tall monument clearly has
her name with the B&D dates but also has Alfred's name with no dates. At the top of the monument is carved
"OUR PARENTS". I am certain
that Alfred is not buried there. I have
found an obituary from the Salem Republican Leader Jan 9, 1914 which
erroneously states he died when he was visiting his SON? O.G. Gibbs in
Shattuck, OK. (Oliver G. was his brother not son) It also gives the birth year
as 1844! It also says his surviving 2nd
wife is the daugh. of the late John Johnson of Jefferson Twp. who it says
survived him. Funeral services were conducted in Shattuck, OK by Rev. W.F.
Ribelin "an old friend of the deceased". This is the 1st evidence suggesting the
maiden name (JOHNSON) and heritage of his 2nd wife (presumably Louis Wm.
Persinger's only wife)....but it would have to be questioned, if for no other
reason then the fact that there were so many KNOWN errors in the obituary
report (I wonder who supplied that information to the paper?) I hope to visit Shattuck and the adjacent
Beaver Co., OK soon. Unfortunately there
were at least 2 different John Johnson's in Washington Co. in that era and I'm
having difficulty determining more details about Elizabeth Cora
Gibbs-Persinger. (see PgDn on her name).
July 1994 - Just visited Shattuck, Oklahoma
& talked with Phillis Ballew, Grandaughter of Oliver Grant Gibbs. She showed me the area of Oliver's home they
have renovated where Alfred died 81 years earlier. Also she has many letters written about the
time Alfred died...From George Gibbs' daughter Nellie and telegrams &
letters from Arthur Anthony Gibbs. This
letter suggests that Cora Elizabeth & Alfred P. were living in the Lathrop,
MO area near or with Arthur Anthony Gibbs and then had been living in Topeka,
Kansas in 1913 before Alfred spent some time in Oklahoma visiting between son
James Gibbs in nearby Beaver County and with Alfred's brother Oliver. It now is certain (according to the City
Clerk who shows Alfred buried in the Odd Fellows/Shattuck Cemetary next to
Oliver & family who all died much later....but there is no stone or any
kind of marker at the gravesite, which probably relates to the fact that none
of them had any money in that era, although I suspect later Oliver did gain a
much better income (he died 40 years after his older brother Alfred). So it appears that Cora & Alfred were
both buried without a gravestone headmarker, but in different states. I have later discovered that I now have 2
photos of Alfred, the 2nd one is with a wife a child of approximately one year
of age. I don't know which wife that is,
but she looks very much like the photos of the first one which is Emma Harriet
Persinger (my ancestor). I might be able
to determine this by researching the date the listed photographer was in
business in Salem, IN. I was not
allowed to photocopy Alfred's Obit in Shattuck OK. The pages were so faint they were barely
legible and the staff at the historical center were fearful about anyone
damaging it further. So, I wrote it out
in my own handwriting.: From the
Stattuck Monitor, Jan. 1, 1914. - Alfred
Gibbs, A brother of O.G. Gibbs, west of town who had been ill but a couple of
weeks died at the home of his brother Sunday morning. Remains were interred at the Odd Fellows
Cemetery. Funeral services were
conducted by Rev. Frank Ribelin.
1900 -Sullivan Co, IN
census page on the scrapbook. He was in
the city of Sullivan, Sullivan Co, IN - Enumeration District 130, Sheet 10,
Line 24. -
it reads:
Gibbs,
Alfred P. head - Dec. 1849, 50, born Ohio, Father born England, Mother in Ireland
Cora E. wife
- July 1856, 43, Indiana Indiana Indiana
James Son
- Oct. 1881, 18 Indiana Ohio Indiana
Persinger, Clarence, St-Son Mar. 1882 18 Indiana Indiana Indiana
Asa St.-Son Feb. 1880
20 Indiana Indiana Indiana
Gibbs,
Grace daughter Aug. 1884
15 Indiana Ohio Indiana
Alva son Mar. 1893 7
Indiana Ohio Indiana
1910 -Still in the
city of Sullivan, IN -sheet 18A/173, Enumeration District 172, City Ward 1, age
61, Laborer, with wife, Elizabeth C. age 53 & Alvy G. age 17 - he was the
only child living with them then, but know that by 1913 had moved or at least
temporarily were living in Kansas, near Topeka.
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August 2002: Newspaper clippings from Salem, Indiana
newspaper finally have given the answer as to when Alfred P. "Fred"
Gibbs moved from Washington Co, to Sullivan County, IN >> in early April
1897. Below is a list of several
newspaper briefs mentioning Alfred from the Salem Republic-Leader Newspaper:
Jan. 6, 1888: Frank Gibbs & wife of Kentucky are
spending the week with A.P. Gibbs of this place (ed.-Oak Grove- is Frank his
brother John Francis ?- mag)
Jan. 20, 1888: A.P. Gibbs came near having a serious runaway
this week. While holding his little
girl in his arms his horse became frightened and started to run, dragging Mr. Gibbs quite a
distance. (ed.- Grace would have been 3 1/2 then and Anna 9 1/2
yrs. old - probably Grace? - mag)
Mar. 9, 1888: Married March 1 at the residence of John
Johnson, Sr. were A.P. Gibbs and Mrs.
Lizzie Persinger. A.P. Gibbs will shortly move to his Father's
farm. Lucy Gibbs of Seymour came
down Thursday to attend the
wedding of her brother accompanied by Miss Anna Myers.
Mar. 30, 1888: A.P. Gibbs has moved to his Father's farm.
June 8, 1888: A.P. Gibbs bought his Father's farm and
sold 50 Acres to John Johnson. (ed. -
John Johnson was is new wife's Father - mag).
Aug. 31, 1888: A.P. Gibbs' team ran away Tuesday breaking
his wagon and slightly crippling one horse.
May 31, 1889: A. P.
Gibbs' family have measles.
Aug. 30, 1889: A.P. Gibbs will take a trip to Kentucky
shortly.
May 9, 1890:
A.P. Gibbs had two horses supposed to be poisoned. One of them died and the other is thought
will die.
June 13, 1890: A.P. Gibbs was circulating a petition last
week to let stock run at large.
Dec. 12, 1890: Edward Gibbs of Sullivan County is visiting
his brother A.P. Gibbs for a few days
(could this be James E. Gibbs ?-ed/mag).
Mar. 10, 1893: Born March 1st to A.P. Gibbs and wife, a
son.
July 14, 1893: A Mr.
Chambers of Kentucky is visiting A. P. Gibbs.
Aug. 25, 1893: A.P. Gibbs is shipping Peaches to Seymour.
Nov. 10, 1893: A.P. Gibbs and wife returned Saturday from a
ten days visit at the World's Fair, and in Northwestern Illinois where they
were visiting Mrs. Gibbs' brother, M.L. Johnson.
Feb. 2, 1894: A. P. Gibbs and Company are putting up ice
this week.
Aug. 24, 1894: Arthur and Anna Gibbs visited their Uncle
O.G. Gibbs at Freetown last week.
Aug. 31, 1894: A. P. Gibbs, A.J. Lee & George Booker
received the contract for building the gravel road north of Sparksville.
Sept. 14, 1894: A.P. Gibbs has gone to Jackson County with a
force of hands to build gravel roads.
Sept. 27, 1895: A.P. Gibbs went to Ohio last Friday to see
his brother Charley who is dangerously ill
(ed-note, Charles lived many more years, til 1953.- mag)
May 15, 1896: A. P. Gibbs has two teams hauling on the
Millport Gravel Road.
Sept. 11, 1896: A.P. Gibbs returned last Saturday from a
visit to Daviess & Sullivan County.
Sept. 11, 1896: Charles Gibbs of Sullivan County, Indiana is
visiting his brother, A.P. Gibbs. It is
reported that A.P. Gibbs will move to Sullivan Indiana next spring.
April 16, 1897: A.P. Gibbs moved to Sullivan County, Indiana
last week.
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Note the 2nd one from
Sept. 11, 1896 above suggests that Charles was living at Sullivan BEFORE Alfred
moved there, giving the first hint I've known of a reason Alfred moved to
Sullivan. And the Dec. 12, 1890 one shows
Alfred had another brother living at Sullivan even earlier yet. That brother, I'm assuming is the lost
brother James E. Gibbs.
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More About AL"FRED" PAIGE * (2) GIBBS:
Burial: Odd Fellows
Cem, Shattuck, OK-unmarked grave
Event 1: Obituary says
died in town of Shattuck, OK
Event 2: which is in
Ellis Co.
Children of EMILY PERSINGER
and AL"FRED" GIBBS are:
i. CLARENCE WINFIELD10 GIBBS, b.
May 30, 1872, Washington Co., IN; disappeared many yrs; d. May 24, 1951,
Bremerton, WA-never married.
Notes for CLARENCE WINFIELD GIBBS:
Newspaper clipping from
San Diego paper shows a reunion with long lost Clarence & younger brother
James in 1949. Clarence said he left
Medora IN @ age 20 in 1892. They met @
James' home, 1525 28th St. San
Diego. He had been lost for 57 years
during which the family had given up on him for dead. Clarence stated he was a retired
restauranteur and mining man living in Santa Barbara, CA. It also said that his Brother James had lived
in San Diego since 1937. Clarence said
he had mined in Texas, the Klondike, Mexico & Guatemala. He never married. I wonder if the word restauranteur is not
really supposed to have been entrepreneur?
Clarence was living at the YWCA in Seattle when he became ill and died
shortly later at a Naval Hospital in Bremerton, WA. A letter from James in San Diego stated he
was buried at Bremerton, so he must have been a Navy Man too for quite a few
years. I had previously believed he was
buried at Seattle.
1900 - He is at
Maricopa, Arizona on the 1900 census, working as a servant/ day laborer - Page
172. Says born in Indiana, but gives
both parents born in Ohio. Even gives
the right month for birthdate - May 1872.
1910 - Only man fitting
his general description - single man, 38 y.o. born in Indiana in the entire
U.S. census including military & Navy was in Ohio county, IN - if him, he
gave his Mother's Birth state correctly as Indiana, but gave the same for his
Father - but we know that Alfred was born in Ohio. This was in Rising Sun Twp, which is on the
Ohio River, just West of Cincinnati.
ii. DAUGHTER GIBBS, b. Jan 06, 1874, Washington Co, IN; d. Jan 10,
1874, Lived 4 days.
iii. ARTHUR ANTHONY GIBBS, b. Nov 09, 1875, Washington Co, IN; d. Dec 15,
1960, Bethany, MO; used to farm in Lathrop; m. (1) ROSE MARIE GILLIAM, Mar
05, 1905; b. Abt. 1880; d. May 31, 1916, this is Arthur's 1st wife &
family; m. (2) MALVINA "MOLLY" KATHERINE HERGEMUELLER, Nov 15, 1917, Kansas City, MO; this was
his 2nd wife; b. Sep 03, 1878, She is the sister of Augusta, Chas. C.
Gibbs' wife; d. Nov 29, 1960, this is
Arthur's 2nd wife & family.
Notes for ARTHUR ANTHONY GIBBS:
Newspaper article ....
unknown date:
THEIR DIVORCE SET ASIDE
Couple, Reunited,
Preferred That Course to Remarrying.
Arthur A. Gibbs Manager for the Western Union Telegraph
Company in Kansas City, Kas. and his
former wife Mrs. Rosa Gibbs, filed a motion in the Wyandotte County District Court yesterday to have set aside
the decree of divorce granted Mrs. Gibbs Aptil 11, 1911. They disagreed
originally in regard to religion, she
being a Catholic and He being a Christian Scientist. They said yesterday that
they had agreed to forgive each other, set aside all differences and live
together again. The motion was granted. They said they preferred having the decree
set aside rather than being remarried.
They have a daughter 9 years old and will live at 2308 Farrow Avenue Kansas City Kan.
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Regarding the above
newsclipping that Bob & Grace Sanders sent me in August 2002:
We found an interesting
news clipping on Arthur and his first wife Rose Gilliam. Al had it in Prescott when we were there this
summer. It was badly damaged and I could not get a good copy from the commercial
outfit that we took it to. I typed it
off and made a file of it. I will attach a copy for you. Apparently Arthur and
Rose were legally divorced in 1911 but some time later decided to get back
together so instead of remarrying they went back to the court and had the
divorce annulled. There was no date on the clipping but calculating from the
dates we have and the mention of the 9 year old girl we thought it would be
about 1917. However the information We have is that Rose died in 1916. Also Arthur and Malvina, Al & Graces
mother were married in Nov. 15, 1917.
More About ARTHUR ANTHONY GIBBS:
Burial: Masonic Cem.,
Des Moines, IA
More About MALVINA "MOLLY" KATHERINE
HERGEMUELLER:
Burial: Masonic Cem.,
Des Moines, IA
iv. MARY LUELLA GIBBS, b. Dec 22, 1876, Not to be confused with
Alfred's other child, Mary Lucy; d. Jul 09, 1877, Lived 6 months.
More About MARY LUELLA GIBBS:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem., Washington Co, IN
v. ANNA MATILDA GIBBS, b. Aug 10, 1878, Washington Co. IN; d. Dec 09,
1948, Merom, IN - (or Dec. 8?); m. DUDLEY MCCAMMON, Feb 04, 1903; b. Dec 20, 1878, Sullivan Co.IN;
d. Jul 17, 1942, Merom, IN-lived 3 doors from AP Gibbs in 1900.
Notes for ANNA MATILDA GIBBS:
Anna was listed in the
1900 census as a live-in housekeeper for the family of John L. Thompson on
Washington St. in Sullivan, IN. At this
same time her sister Grace, brother James & half-sibs Asa & Clarence
Persinger were still living with Alfred P. Gibbs & Cora (?Elizabeth) in
Sullivan. So one would suspect that Anna
recently moved out of the Gibbs home to earn a living.
McCammon, D. R.
- Dudley -
Anna M. Gibbs
Sep. 20, 1915 Book CH-27, Pg. 259
Vigo Co.
McCammon, D. R.
- Dudley -
Anna M. Gibbs
Sep. 20, 1916 Book CH-27, Pg. 269
Vigo Co.
vi. JAMES ABRAM GARFIELD GIBBS, b. Oct 16, 1881, Washington Co., IN; d. Mar 04,
1955, San Diego, CA lived @ 1525 28th St.; m. HARRIET ANGELINE SMITH; b.
Mar 04, 1890, West Virginia - or Tennessee; d. Nov 16, 1970, Los Angeles, CA.
Notes for JAMES ABRAM GARFIELD GIBBS:
Apparently moved to
Beaver Co. Oklahoma in the early 1900s in the panhandle of that state, near the
town of Knowles; then moved he and his
family to Baca County, Colorado near the town of Two Buttes in the Southeastern
corner of Colorado, at about 1918. This
information comes from Beatrice (GIBBS) SUTER.
The family were apparently among the true "dust-bowlers" of
Oklahoma & adjacent territories of that time. My Father Harold Griffith, and Beatrice Suter
confirms that my Grandfather Will Griffith invested in the cattle farm that his
brother-in-law James Gibbs was running, but eventually lost all the money. Beatrice recalls that my Grandmother Grace
(GIBBS) GRIFFITH saved up comics from the Terre Haute newspaper and mailed them
to this impoverished family living in the dust bowl, and that the children were
very joyous to receive such a gift.
Apparently after Beatrice married to Harold Suter they moved to California
and then by the 1940s convinced her parents James & Harriet to also move
there. My parents, Harold & Marion
recall visiting James when they lived in a home across the street from Balboa
Park & Zoo in San Diego, CA. during the early 1950s. My Father, Harold Griffith, recalls his
parents taking a trip to visit James around 1919/20. Recalls getting off the train at Lamar, CO
and taking a covered wagon to the farm near Two Buttes. The Gibbs' farm home had dirt floors
according to my father. He recalls dust
storms and thuderstorms. During one
storm Dad recalls when he was only about 7 years old that everyone went to the
"dug-out" to avoid the storm.
He said inside that during the storm was all the people, all the
chickens, turkeys, dogs, etc. It is quite to James' credit that he picked up
his family after their farm was devastated by the ravages of weather and other
forms of bad luck to get to California.
Then not only recover but seemed to raise a family of high producers and
high intellect after such a difficult start out in the dust-bowl areas.
More About JAMES ABRAM GARFIELD GIBBS:
Event 1: Buried @
Greenwood Mem. Park, San Diego CA
vii. GRACE GERTRUDE * GIBBS, b. Aug 02, 1884, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.
IN; d. May 12, 1967, Home @ 1356 Chestnut St. Terre Haute, IN; m. WILLIAM "WILL" *
GRIFFITH, Jun 07, 1905, Sullivan, IN; b. Jan 31, 1886, Sullivan, IN; no middle
name -Birth Book H-1, Pg. 242; d. Nov 10, 1947, Home @ 1354 Chestnut St. Terre
Haute, IN.
Notes for GRACE GERTRUDE * GIBBS:
2001 - Aren't many
people around to offer memories of Grace now.
My father, Harold is the oldest and her only living child after my Uncle
Dick died 1994. Her genetic grandchildren
are only Four: My cousins, Bill Heiny,
Carolyn (now Jessup), my brother Arthur & myself, Allan Griffith. Dick had one adopted child, Bill - but he
had almost no contact with Grace. My
Father, relates the only early information - he relates stories about how
frugal she was. How she never sought
luxuries and often reprimanded her husband for spending too much money. The thing I recall the best, was her
cooking - I recall that I was in a college class at Indiana St. Univ. when she
was found dead in bed apparently died in her sleep - My mother discovered her
dead in bed while I was in morning classes.
I don't ever recall Grace discussing her parents or other ancestors.
I regret so much not
having been astute enough to question her about her life, and her
ancestry. I was even to stupid to
realize that the recipes she never wrote down but now seems so unique were
permanently lost at her death. In fact,
one recipe she called "Fried Skillet Bread" I loved so much - I've
asked many people about has never surfaced to reality.
Griffith,
Herald M - William
- Gibbs, Grace -
Male - Dec. 23, 1912 Book CH-27 - Page 30 - Vigo Co, IN
Griffith,
Richard K. - William
- Gibbs, Grace -
Male - Oct. 23,
1908 Book CH-24 - Page 13
- Vigo Co, IN
Grace's Mother, Emma
Harriett Persinger died when Grace was only 15 months old. Grace's Father, Alfred remarried Cora
Elizabeth when Grace was only 3 1/2 yrs. old and was apparently raised by the
step-mother and Alfred, but all this information is gleaned from my own
research, nothing that she handed down.
August 2002: Historical accounts from Washington County
newspapers, suggest that Fred moved his family from Washington County, Indiana
to Sullivan County, Indiana in early April 1897, when Grace was only 12 1/2
yrs. old. We don't why they moved -
presumably followed someone there?
Below is a letter
transcribed and sent to me by another Grace Gibbs, daughter of my GM Grace's
brother, Arthur Anthony Gibbs and who I presumed Arthur named after his
sister.
Transcript of letter
from Mrs. Grace G. Griffith to Grace G. Sanders
7/18/66
Mrs. Grace G. Griffith
1356 Chestnut Street
Terre Haute, Indiana,
47807
Dear Niece &
family,
I was so glad to hear
from you, and to know that you have a Son graduating. My youngest Son and his family has lived in
my home with me since I lost my Husband in November of 47 and their youngest
Son is in college here in Terre Haute, he is going to Summer school part time
and working part time, as clerk in a down town Shoe-store. He will be 19 years old in July, and doing
well in school, makes very good grades, he worries a lot, and thinks he isn't
doing good till he gets his card, then he is happy, but does not want us to brag
or tell people. Sorry I have been so
slow writing you, but I do a lot of baby sitting, and drop everything and go
where I am called, and I sure do neglect writing letters, and I know I should
not do that. Wish you could come see me
sometime. I am hard to find at home,
but some of the family are usually here.
I went to California last September with my brother James oldest
daughter and Husband, They had been on a trip traveling in a camper trailer
large enough, we cooked, ate and slept in it and I sure did enjoy it. My oldest
son lives in Ocean-side, California and he brought me home in a Jet, so I had a
nice trip both ways, guess I am doing O.K. If I live till August 2nd. I will be
82 years old. I do a lot of walking and love the out doors. Tell James Lee to go out and have a Soda or to
with this money and think of his aunt Grace. Write and come see me when you
can. With love Aunt Grace. (ed/mag - the 2nd sentence refers to her
youngest son, my Father, Harold.... then Harold's youngest son mentioned here
is ME - I had never seen this letter til Grace & her Husband Sanders sent
it to me via Email.)
More About GRACE GERTRUDE * GIBBS:
Burial: May 15, 1967,
Roselawn Cemetery, Terre Haute, IN
Comment 1: Believed to
have moved to Sullivan with
Comment 2: her sister
Anna Gibbs, and was housekeeper
Comment 3: for a local
Physician before she met Wil
Comment 4: Griffith.
Event 1: moved to
Sullivan, IN as a young adult
Event 2: May 15, 1967,
Buried @ Roselawn Cemetary, Terre Haute,IN
Notes for WILLIAM "WILL" *
GRIFFITH:
No Middle name
apparently, friends called him "Will"
Born in Sullivan, IN in
1886. As a teenager sold ice cream in Sullivan.
Started working as a RR
Car Inspector C&EI RR in Terre Haute, at the Union Depot approx. from 1910
to 1922. He played Trombone in many
local bands (Grotto, Shriners, etc.) He quit the railroad due to unwillingness
to go on strike & fight or become a scab.
He then worked as electrical worker at Davis Gardens greenhouse in TH,I.
for about 1 year. He next worked for the
Terre Haute City schools as a custodian (janitor) for about 2 years at
Greenwood School at Voorhees & 2nd st.
Then he was transferred to the City School bookstore (6 1/2 &
Walnut) where he kept track of the school books for the city school district
from 1925 to 1947. There was no retirement plan through the school system
then. He died at home at 1354 Chestnut,
age 61, presumably of a stroke, & is buried @ Roselawn Cem. in Terre Haute,
IN with wife Grace. His Mother Belle
lived in the same house on the other side 1356 til sometime before he died,
they then moved Belle back to Sullivan, IL by her daughter Marie. Harold says his Dad never seemed to be able
to get as good of a job as the railroad job.
While working for the railroad, he used his job fringe benefit to be
able to take free trips by using passes given to employees to take Grace &
the 3 kids on trips: 1918 or 1917 to Colorado to visit James Gibbs; 1919
California to British Columbia (on this trip Richard Kenneth met a sailor
friend of Will's who inspired R.K. to go into the Navy at the age of 15 by
lying about his age. They never ate in
the train diner. Harold says they never knew there was a diner... because Grace
took a large basket of home-made bread & chicken which lasted much of the
trip. Will would occasionally get off at
train stops & run down to a nearby grocery store to pick up drinks &
more food. Will smoked Camel cigarettes
and drank lots of whole milk & coffee (from my father Harold's description
I suspect he had Peptic Ulcer Disease or Gastritis as he also consumed many
doses of baking soda- I suspect this might have been a factor in elevating his
blood pressure, ultimately causing a CVA (speculation?).
Obituary in Terre Haute
Star
GRIFFITH, William
Nov. 11, 1947 - 61 y.o.
- Pg. 2, Star
More About WILLIAM "WILL" *
GRIFFITH:
Burial: Roselawn
Cemetery, Terre Haute, IN
Cause of Death: CVA
Medical Information:
High blood pressure, Stroke
58. LOUIS (1) WILLIAM9 PERSINGER (ALFRED RICHARD *8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 18, 1851 in IN; This is not the violinist, but is his Uncle, and died Oct
09, 1881 in Washington Co, IN; 29yrs..
He married ELIZABETH CORA JOHNSON Abt. 1876 in her 1st marriage (Alfred P. Gibbs was 2nd husb.), daughter of
JOHN
JOHNSON and SUSAN EMPSON. She
was born Jul 17, 1857 in IN, as were her parents; died age 58; may be 1856, and
died Feb 24, 1915 in Sullivan County, IN -name may be reversed w. Cora 1st.
Notes for LOUIS (1) WILLIAM PERSINGER:
L.W. PERSINGER is
listed in the 1880 census for Jackson Co. IN on Page 2 of the town of
Ewing. It lists his wife Elizabeth C.,
son Heubert age 1, and son Asa age 3mos. B:May.
His listed occupation is RR agent. and Elizabeth as "keeping
house". Also listed as living with
them is Amos W. who I'm certain is his brother in that all dates names and
middle initials coincide perfectly with previous family records. L.W. had at least one more child (Louis
Clarence in 1882). L. W. must have died
within a few years since we understand that Alfred Gibbs married Emma
(PERSINGER) GIBBS' brother's widowed wife (must be Elizabeth C. which also
coincides with previous records. See
PgDn info on Elizabeth & also her 2nd husband Alfred Gibbs for more
details. He is buried at the East edge
of Walnut Ridge Cem. nearly adjacent to where his sister, Emma Harriet is
buried without her husband Alfred Gibbs.
1880 Census, Ewing,
Jackson Co, IN Page 1-B
L. W. PERSINGER Self M
Male W 27
IN R. R. Agent IN
IN
Elizabeth C. PERSINGER Wife
M Female W 24 IN
Keeping House IN IN
Hubert B. PERSINGER Son
S Male W
1 IN At Home IN IN
Ava C. PERSINGER Son S
Male W 3M
IN At Home IN
IN
Amos W. PERSINGER Brother
S Male W
18 IN Student IN IN
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After all the years
I'd concluded without proof that Lewis Persinger married Elizabeth Cora
Johnson, I found a highly coincidental marriage certficate indexed for
Washington Co, of Lewis Persinger to Elizabeth Johnson but on Sept. 19, 1887,
Voume "I" as in eye, page 256.
Problem is this is not possible to be ours as we are quite our Lewis
died 1881 (could that stone say 1891?) but also, their first child, Hubert was
born 1877, so could the transcription in the index actually mean 1877, or even
more likely 1876?
More About LOUIS (1) WILLIAM PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem, Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.
Event 1: son.
Notes for ELIZABETH CORA JOHNSON:
Many confusing things
about this lady - the facts are sketchy- most of it culled from death records
and census', since those who I believe are her grandchildren, seem to have no
knowledge of her or their GrandFather Louis Persinger. (Malcolm Persinger in Mecca, IN & Olive
Dennis in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan, and Chester in Terre Haute, IN). The Death
record index book in the Sullivan County Library shows her Birth & death
date as shown here & apparently died in Sullivan Co. However the index of Deaths there refers me
to the County Public Health building which I visited in May, 1994. This book is not copyable, the info was read
to me by a clerk there from Book CH-16, page 6.
It says she was the daughter of John Johnson (born in Indiana as was
Elizabeth Cora.) & that she died of T.B. (which we think is what killed her
2nd husband, (my Dad's GrandFather) Alfred Gibbs 2 years earlier. It is not clear, but is likely that Her
father - John Johnson is also the 2nd husband of Alfred Persinger's wife (Mary
Ann Abbott Persinger-Johnson). He was
from the Washington County area also.
Alfred Gibbs' obituary from Shattuck, Oklahoma does imply that his wife
was living at the time of his death, so I presume she was out in Oklahoma with
him in 1913? Now the biggest dilemma
regarding Cora is that the death record in Book CH-16 says she was buried in
Center Ridge Cemetary in Sullivan (as are most of my Griffith ancestors), but
most of the cemetary records were destroyed by fire, and I have traipsed all
over that cemetary and could not find evidence she is there, also none of the 5
volume cemetary books in the Sullivan county library show her being buried in
Sullivan County!....So was she simply buried as a pauper with no stone? or was
the death record book written wrong? ... perhaps at the last minute her son
Clarence had her buried elsewhere ... (he and wife Farie were later buried at
Palestine, IL...I will sometime try to research that possibility) Malcolm Persinger seemed to vaguely recall
visiting a Grandmother's grave in Sullivan.
We do Know that an Elizabeth C. Persinger was listed in the 1880
Washington County Census living with L.W. Persinger in Ewing (tiny town West of
Brownstown), Indiana with children Heubert (age 1), and Asa C. (Carl - age 3
months - the dentist) and L.W.'s brother Amos W. (other son Louis Clarence was
born 2 years later). According to these
records its sad to note that Louis William Persinger died while Elizabeth Cora
was pregnant with his son Louis Clarence.
(L.W. died October 1881, and Clarence was born in March 1882)- That
explains why Clarence's children whom I have spoken to know nothing about their
GrandFather Louis William Persinger. (although I would have thought that
Clarence would have passed down some information about his Mother Elizabeth
Cora, since he was living in the area and was 32 years old when his Mother
died.???? It appears from the fact that
the 2 daughters that Alfred Gibbs & Elizabeth had together died in infancy
and were both buried in Washington County in 1892; then the couple must not
have moved to Sullivan County until after 1892.
Note that they are listed as living together in Sullivan in the 1900
census. (See also PgDn notes on Alfred Page Gibbs' & Louis W.
Persinger) I recall Malcolm remembering
his Father Chester telling him that Chester didn't like living with those
Gibbs', which of course is common with step-children, so I would presume it
likely that he didn't see his Mother much after he was old enough to leave the
household & therefore may not have been close to his Mother in order to
avoid his Step-Father Alfred Gibbs?? I
have been sent a letter by the head genealogist at the Sullivan Library; she
feels certain that Elizabeth Cora is buried @ Center Ridge Cemetary without a Headstone, presumably for lack of
family money to pay for one.
July 94, I took a trip
to Shattuck, Oklhoma. While there I do
believe I established with certainty that Alfred P. Gibbs died there in his
Brother Olivers home and was buried there (Also with no headstone) in the same
lot next his are his wife Algie and their two children. There was much to be learned from Mrs. Phillis
Ballew (now living in Shattuck) who has kept letters written to her paternal
Grandparents (Oliver G. Gibbs and Algie Tucker Gibbs) from many of the Gibbs
klan. Apparently Alfred (they called him
Fred....also a new revelation discovered while in OK) did die in Olivers house
- see Alfreds details for more. Alfred's
son Arthur Anthony Gibbs (from Lathrop, MO) wrote in telegrams within a week
before Alfred died that He has sent telegrams to Cora to get her to come to
Alfreds deathbed but that she stated she was also in ill health and therefore
unable to come to Shattuck. Apparently
she and Alfred had then been living in Topeka, Kansas. Cora was working for a Mrs. E.C. Winters at
the Progressive oil Company in Topeka.
Arthur also states that he has tried to get hold of Alva and makes
derogatory suspicions about Alva using up his parents money. Another interesting commentary comes from a
letter (1918 from Cincinnati, OH) written by Oliver's half sister Nellie Gibbs
Burks to Oliver asking "Where was Cora after Fred's death, before she
died?" "Was she with you or some of the children?" Too bad I don't have the answer to that
letter. As of 2000, I had no information
as to the whereabouts or names of any descendents of Nellie or her brother
Ralph Gibbs, but they might be a good resource to search for (did locate them
in 2001). Phillis also had a photo of
Alfed P. & Cora holding a child (may be Alva or one of the girls that died
very young). Elizabeth, age 3 can be
found on the 1860 census of Washington Co, Indiana with parents John Johnson
& Susan M. (ages 35 & 27 resp), and siblings Nancy Ann 7, Lloyd 5, Lafayette 2, and living in the same household
was hired farm laborer, Hiatt POLLOCK.
This family is living next door to Isaiah Persinger, age 27 & wife,
Juliann 24 & children Cornelius 5, James Franklin 4, & Betsey 2
months. Even though this Elizabeth is
not my direct ancestor, she certainly enters in the family history heavily having first married into the
Persingers and then my own Gibbs line - AND was the only Mother my Grandmother
Grace ever really knew, since Cora Elizabeth would have raised Grace from a
small child - her Father married Cora Elizabeth when my GM Grace was only 3 1/2
yrs. old.
More About ELIZABETH CORA JOHNSON:
Burial: Center Ridge
Cem. -Sullivan, IN - unmarked grave?
Children of LOUIS PERSINGER
and ELIZABETH JOHNSON are:
i. HUBERT B.10
PERSINGER, b. Apr 1877, Indiana, uncertain if married; d. Bet. 1900 - 1917, at
or near Mt. Morris, IL (WHEN?).
Notes for HUBERT B. PERSINGER:
Hubert remains a
mystery. We're pretty sure he was not
alive by May 1917 - the time his brother Asa Carl (or Avy Carol ?) because only
the brother, Clarence was mentioned as a survivor. The only clue I have as to his death
location is a note in handed down family records that say he "died at or near Mt. Morris,
Illinois". Mt. Morris appears to
be in Ogle County, IL - just SouthWest of Rockford - so far Northern, IL, West
of Chicago.
1880 census with his
parents at Ewing, IN, Jackson Co, Page 1-B
1900, this census corroborates the above finding,
as I've found him at Ogle Co, IL living as a boarder showing he is attending
school then at age 23, showing him born in April 1877, with he and both parents
born at Indiana.
1900 >
Illinois > OGLE >
OREGON TWP Series: T623 Roll: 333
Page: 267
PERSINGER
HUBERT 23 M
W IN IL
OGLE OREGON TWP 1900
He likely died before
1910 as I cannot find him in the 1910 census.
I cannot figure out what school he was going to in 1900 at age 23, as I
cannot find any College nearby.
ii. ASA CARL PERSINGER, DR., b. May 1880, Prob. Washington Co.IN; was a dentist -
may be Avy; d. May 26, 1917, Cook Co.,IL death Cert. # 6017822; m. JENNIE (?) PERSINGER; b.
Abt. 1880.
Notes for ASA CARL PERSINGER, DR.:
Asa allegedly died
while riding a horse. At that time he
apparently was a practicing dentist in Chicago.
I have not been able to get more information on him but it should be fairly
easy to get a death certificate at the Cook County Courthouse and the obituary
should be obtainable from microfiche files of the newpapers in the Chicago
libraries. I hope to make a trip to do
that sometime. Olive Dennis remembers
the story of her relative the dentist being thrown off a horse and dying, and
her brother Malcolm even thinks he recalls seeing a photograph of him lying in
state in the coffin, but he could not find the photograph nor could he find any
other details about this.
I have obtained a
nearly illegible copy of his obituary from the microfilm of the Chicago Daily
News, dated May 28, 1917, Page 17, Column 4.
It doesn't tell much except verifies that date of May 26, 1917 is our
Dr. Asa C., age 37 at death and wife was Jennie. Only one sibling is mentioned, that is
Clarence, but not Hubert. Lists
in-laws which are illegible.
Buried at
OAKRIDGE. That cemetery is located along
the
south side of Roosevelt
Road just west of Harlem Avenue on the west side
of Chicago. The specific address is Roosevelt and
Oakridge Road,
Hillside, Illinois
60162
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the 1910 census below
shows 34 y.o. as indexed but it appears to me to be age 29 and clearly shows
him as a dentist, he, and both parents born in Indiana. He is with wife Jennie, same as described in
the obituary above and no children; the
name Asa is not shown nor an initial, just Carl Persinger, also Jennie &
Carl are shown married 2 years. There
is one other relative although not genetic to him, that is a Sister-in-law
named Maude Sippy, 29y.o. - both she and Jennie show they and both parents born
at Illinois. There is also a 35 y.o.
female boarder named Ella whose surname I cannot make out.
1910 at Chicago:
1910
> Illinois >
COOK > 14-WD CHICAGO Series: T624 Roll: 256
Page: 222
PERSINGER CARL
34 M W
IN IL COOK
14-WD CHICAGO 1910
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1880 Census, Ewing,
Jackson Co, IN Page 1-B
L. W. PERSINGER Self M
Male W 27
IN R. R. Agent IN
IN
Elizabeth C. PERSINGER Wife
M Female W
24 IN Keeping House IN IN
Hubert B. PERSINGER Son
S Male
W 1 IN
At Home IN IN
Ava C. PERSINGER Son S
Male W 3M
IN At Home IN
IN
Amos W. PERSINGER Brother
S Male W
18 IN Student IN IN
iii. LEWIS "CLARENCE" PERSINGER, b. Mar 18, 1882, IN- went by Clarence, born
5 months after his Dad died; d. 1950, date per gravestone; m. FAIRY MARTIN, Abt.
1904; b. 1883, Illinois-per 1910 census w. Clarence in city of Sullivan,IN; d.
1979, date per gravestone.
Notes for LEWIS "CLARENCE"
PERSINGER:
Clarence is on the 1920
census at Merom Station Gill Twp, Page 131 with several children and wife
Fairy. My Father remembers playing with
his several children at Merom. I met
one of his children
He was born after his
father died.
1900 - see him living
with Mother & Step-Father Alfred P. Gibbs and half sibling, my GrandMother
Grace.
More About LEWIS "CLARENCE"
PERSINGER:
Burial: Palestine Cem.,
Palestine, IL
More About FAIRY MARTIN:
Burial: Palestine Cem.,
Palestine, IL
59. ISAAC NEWTON9 PERSINGER (ALFRED RICHARD *8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 02, 1854 in Indiana - or 1853, and died Nov 05, 1929 in Indiana - Riverview
Cem.. He married MARTHA M. BURCHAM Feb 19,
1884 in Jackson Co. IN - marriage book I, pg.123. She was born Apr 1862 in Indiana, and died
Aft. Apr 10, 1930 in at Seymour on 1930 census, page 123-124 w. daughters.
Notes for ISAAC NEWTON PERSINGER:
He is on the 1880
census living single in Ewing, Jackson Co, IN, age 26.
He defintely is on the
1910 census in Jackson Co, IN - as a 56 yr. old man with wife Martha at Brownstown
twp, Pg. 32 - and two children with illegible names - one is a 20 y.o. but I
cannot even read the sex, let alone the names of either due to the print being
so light it is not visible. Martha is
shown as age 48, 8 yrs. younger than Isaac.
Need to look for his death information on Jackson County records and
find his children. If these two children
are daughters, then I bet these are the two women my Father remembers visiting
as old maids in Seymour Indiana with his mother, Grace Gibbs Griffith.
He is also on the 1920
census - by then was in the city of Seymour, IN - still Jackson Co, IN. He still has wife & He living with two
daughters, further confiming these are two single ladies that my Father &
Grandmother visited. .. unfortunately I still can't read the names of these two
daughters as they are nearly as illegible as in 1910. Best guess would be the 30 y.o. as either
Nora or Sonia with middle intial "E" and 24y.o. Ines ? or Zona ? with
middle initial "H"- The middle initial was the only part certain. -
Need to look them up in the Seymour city directory, if one exists. In Aug. 2003, I met Richard Knost, a
descendant of Isaac & Emily Harriet's sister, Catherine - he remembers
these ladies as Nora & Inez.
Someone died Nov. 5,
1909 and was told to me was Isaac - I cannot find the source now so I have no
idea who that was, but it clearly was not Isaac Newton Persinger as he is on
the 1910 & 1920 census (was 65 in 1920).
Richard Knost tells me that Isaac died Nov. 5, 1929, so the earlier date
was apparently mis-read as 1909 instead of 1929.
1930, Martha is
widowed, living with the 2 daughters, Nora & Inez, at 624 Ewing St.
Seymour, IN, 1st ward, Pages 123 & 124 - all 3 adult women still list NO
occupation.
Year: 1930; Census
Place: Seymour, Jackson, Indiana; Roll: 594; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 8
More About ISAAC NEWTON PERSINGER:
Event 1: Jun 1880,
Listed on 1st page of census for Jackson
Event 2: Co. single
W.M. 26y.o. Store clerk (alone)
Children of ISAAC PERSINGER
and MARTHA BURCHAM are:
i. NORA ETHEL10
PERSINGER, b. Oct 1889, Brownstown, Jackson Co, IN; d. Feb 26, 1976, Jackson
Co, Schneck Mem. Hosp, Seymour, IN.
ii. INEZ HAZEL PERSINGER, b. Oct 1895, Brownstown, Jackson Co, IN; d.
Jan 11, 1975, Jackson Park Convalescent Center, Seymour, IN.
60. CATHERINE JANE9 PERSINGER (ALFRED RICHARD *8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 25, 1855 in Washington Co, IN- Richard N. Knost's GM, and died Oct 29, 1909
in Brownstown, IN at age 54 1/2 yrs..
She married WILLIAM NILES ENOCHS Nov 07, 1872, son of WILLIAM ENOCHS and
MARY
LYTLE. He was born Sep 24, 1846 in
Washington Co, IN; or Sept. 29?, and died Jan 26, 1892 in Washington Co, IN.
Notes for CATHERINE JANE PERSINGER:
1880:
William N. ENOCHS Self M Male W 22 IN Farming
KY KY
Catharine ENOCHS Wife M Female W 24 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Charles O. ENOCHS Son S Male W 6 IN School IN IN
Harriet G. ENOCHS Dau S Female W 5 IN School IN IN
William A. ENOCHS Son S Male W 2 IN IN IN
Ida L. ENOCHS
Dau S Female W 8M IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Jefferson, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 440B
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1900, her last census
shows her at Brownstown, Jackson Co, IN with two daughters, Ida & Mary:
Year: 1900; Census Place: Brownstown, Jackson,
Indiana; Roll: T623 378; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 64.
More About CATHERINE JANE PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem.
More About WILLIAM NILES ENOCHS:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Children of CATHERINE
PERSINGER and WILLIAM ENOCHS are:
i. CHARLES O.10 ENOCHS,
b. Oct 03, 1873, Hamilton Twp, Washington Co, IN; d. Jan 29, 1957,
Indianapolis, IN; m. RUTH B. ROBERTSON, Oct 03, 1897, Jackson Co, IN; b. Jun 28,
1874, Hamilton Twp, Jackson Co, IN; d. Jun 28, 1938, Indianapolis, IN.
ii. HARRIET GRIZELLA ENOCHS, b. Jan 12, 1875, Washington Co, IN; d. Mar 01,
1949, Columbus, OH; m. ISRAEL EDWARD SEWELL, Dec 25, 1898, Brownstown, IN; b. Sep 1875,
Jackson Co, IN.
iii. WILLIAM ALFRED ENOCHS, b. Jan 25, 1878, Washington Co, IN; d. Jul 09,
1940, South Bend, IN; m. VIRGINIA GRACE ISAACS, Jun 09, 1908, Seymour, IN; b. Aug 17, 1883,
Jackson Co, IN-they also had foster child Edith Needham; d. Oct 25, 1962,
Indianapolis, IN.
More About WILLIAM ALFRED ENOCHS:
Burial: Scottsburg,
Scotts Co, IN
iv. IDA LUELLA ENOCHS, b. Oct 05, 1879, name from a letter 1949 AA
Gibbs to OG Gibbs; d. Jun 01, 1962, Brownstown Co, IN.
Notes for IDA LUELLA ENOCHS:
Ida was a career
business woman and never married.
Taught school for 5 years, was in insurance business at Indianapolis,
worked for years for Eagle Magazine in Phoenix, AZ and was executive secretary
for Mr. Wilson when he was President of Studebaker Corp. in South Bend,
IN. After her retirement she purchased
a home in Brownstown for herself and her sister Mary and remained there til her
death.
v. MARGUERITE MYRTLE ENOCHS, b. Nov 20, 1883, Washington Co, IN; d. Aug 02,
1956, Memphis, TN; m. G. RUSSELL PARKER, Jun 02, 1910, Indianapolis, IN; b. Abt. 1882;
d. Michigan.
vi. MARY ETHEL ENOCHS, b. Dec 19, 1886, Washington Co, IN; d. Jan 26,
1961, Jackson Co, IN; m. JAMES HENRY KNOST, Sep 26, 1909, Brownstown, IN -his 1st mg.; b.
Sep 11, 1883, Jackson Co, IN; d. Feb 28, 1943, Jackson Co, IN.
61. AMOS WILSON9 PERSINGER (ALFRED RICHARD *8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 12, 1861 in listed in 1880 census in Ewing, IN; or 1862 per 1900c, and died
Jan 29, 1948 in Los Angeles, CA; was a RR agent in 1910 & 1920 at Colorado
Springs. He married SUSAN E. HUMPHREYS Oct
07, 1883 in Marion Co, IL; vol.00D, pg. 0165.
She was born 1866 in Illinois; went by "Susie", and died Aft.
1930 in Their marriage shown on Illinois Marriages website.
Notes for AMOS WILSON PERSINGER:
1880 census lists Amos
W. Persinger in the Jackson Co. list and states living in Ewing, IN with his
brother, L.W. Persinger & his wife Elizabeth C. and their 2 children
Heubert, age 1 & Ava age 3 months
(b. in May). I believe these are the parents of Lewis Clarence who was born in
1882 who in turn was the father of Malcolm Louis P. in Mecca, IN & Olive
(P.) Dennis in Michigan although this is difficult to prove thus far since the
1890 census was destroyed. I also
theorize that L.W. died and after Emma Harriett Persinger died then Alfred P.
Gibbs Married Elizabeth C. and therefore L.C. and my Grandmother Grace Gibbs
were 1/2 sibs. And later left together
or nearly so for Sullivan Co. I've
discovered that Cora & Alfred moved to Sullivan in 1897 thru newspaper
clippings in Washington Co, IN. I've
also never been able to find out if Heubert lived to be an adult or not. Family notes says he died at Mt. Vernon,
IL. He seems to dissapear.
Alfred Henry Gibbs (b.
1918) told me from Prescott, AZ, that he visited Amos in Santa Monica,
California - he believes probably in the 1940s - he tells me that Amos was
living in horrible conditions - he doesn't know when he died.
My handed down Family
notes give the only source I have for Amos' death date of January 29,
1948. He bought land on BLM records
Nov. 26, 1920 in CO
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1900 - he appears to
be living alone but written as married - living with no wife nor child at
Colorado Springs, CO, working as a Telegraph Operator which, this occupation
we'd been handed down, yet we know that he was married before 1900.
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1910 census shows him
with son & wife, Susie and shows them married 26yrs. Perhaps his wife was still living at Illinois
? in 1900.
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1920 - They are living
at Colorado Springs still.
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1930: Amos is on two census records 10 days apart -
one at Colorado Springs as a lodger and once at Santa Monica, CA, each time
listed as 68 yr. old, he and both parents from CA. He is with Susie at Santa Monica, but by
himself at Colorado.
Year: 1930; Census
Place: Santa Monica, Los Angeles, California; Roll: 174; Page: 3A; Enumeration
District: 1483; Here with wife Susie, he is 68 yrs and listed still as
Telegraph operator.
More About AMOS WILSON PERSINGER:
Burial: Probably in
California
Child of AMOS PERSINGER and
SUSAN
HUMPHREYS is:
i. LOUIS H. (2)10 PERSINGER,
b. Feb 11, 1887, Rochester, IL- famous violinist; d. Dec 31, 1966, NYC, NY;
taught Yehudi Menuhin & Isaac Stern; m. (1) ANGELA GIANELLI, Abt. 1909, He later
had a 2nd wife 50 yrs. younger; b. 1892, Michigan - per 1920 census; d. 1953;
m. (2) JOAN HOWARD, 1956; b. Abt. 1925.
Notes for LOUIS H. (2) PERSINGER:
Died at the Lenox Hill
Hospital, see obit from Tuesday Jan. 3, 1967 paper
I spoke with his son
Rolf PERSINGER who lives in Sun City West, AZ.
Rolf remembers living about a block from Yehudi Menuhin & him taking
lessons from Louis. Also Louis had
become a concert master of the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra but left Berlin at
the beginning of WWI due to safety reasons.
Rolf, unfortunately did not recall much details of the ancestry before
his own Father, so is not likely to add much details to mine. He did recall that his father Louis grew up
in Cripple Creek, CO (near Colorado Springs) where the Father Amos Wilson
PERSINGER worked for the Railroad in the early 1900s. And he verified that
Louis was born in Rochester, IL. Rolf's
wife mentioned that Louis' wife Angela was previously engaged to Arthur
Rubinstein the pianist but broke it off & married Louis.
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Brief Biography found
in on-line encyclopedia:
Son of Amos Wilson and
Susan Elisabeth (Humphrey) Persinger.; grad. Royal Conservatory, Leipzig, 1904;
married Angela Gianelli, 1913; children—Louis, Rolf; married 2d, Joan Howard,
1956; children—Lendanya, Lionel, Lemont, Lestra. Soloist with leading orchs.
throughout Europe, U.S., 1908-57; leader Chamber Music Soc., San Francisco,
1915-28; violin, chamber music faculty, holder Loeb chamber music chair
Juilliard Sch. Music, N.Y.C., 1930—. Vice pres. Walter W. Naumburg Found. Hon.
mem. Royal Acad. Music (London). Author: Why the Violin, 1965. Home: 340
Riverside Dr., N.Y.C. 10025
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The following was taken from the New York Times by Mrs. Don (Gloria)
Persinger. She has a note on it saying he died December 31,
1966.
LOUIS PERSINGER,
VIOLINIST, 79, DIES
Chamber Artist Had
Taught Menuhin as a Prodigy
Louis Persinger, a renowned violinist and
mentor of noted instrumentalists,
died of cancer
yesterday at Lenox Hill Hospital. He was
79 years old and
lived at 340 Riverside
Drive.
Among Mr. Persinger’s pupils were Yeudi
Menuhin and Ruggiero Ricci, who were boy prodigies under his tutelage in the
nineteen-thirties.
At his death Mr. Persinger, a short, stocky,
gentle but intense musician
was a teacher of violin
and chamber music at the Juilliard School of Music.
He had succeeded
Leopold Auer in that post in 1930. In
recent years he had held the Morris Loeb chair of chamber music there.
Mr. Persinger’s solo violin performances as
a recitalist and with
outstanding orchestras
and chamber groups won the acclaim of audiences in Europe and the United
States. He was also hailed as a piano
soloist.
Before joining the Juilliard faculty, he
taught at the Peabody Conservatory
in Baltimore, the
Cleveland Institute of Music, the University of Kansas City,
the University of
Colorado and the Los Angeles Conservatory.
In 1930, a writer in The New York Times
predicted that "what Leopold Auer
has been to the great
concert violinist of today, Louis Persinger may be to
the violinists of
tomorrow."
"Potentiality for
Greatness"
Describing his first interview in that year
with 6-year-old Menuhin, Mr.
Persinger said:
"I recognized him at once - a plump
little lad with a serious expression.
Quietly he put the
instrument under his chin and began to play.
He was half
through when I stopped
him. I will never forget the fury that
lit up in his
eyes at my
interruption, but I had heard enough.
"There was no doubt in my
mind that something lay
hidden there. His feeling for rhythm was
splendid his ear absolutely true. There
was more besides - a potentiality for greatness."
Mr. Persinger’s relationship with the family
of young Ruggiero Ricci was
stormy but ended
well. In 1930, when the pupil was 10,
his father, Pietro,
sued successfully to
wrest custody of Ruggiero from Miss Mary Elizabeth
Lackey, an assistant to
Mr. Persinger, who had been his guardian and music
teacher for two
years. As an adult soloist, Mr. Ricci
returned to his mentor
for coaching.
Mr. Persinger began studying piano at the
age of 6, and four years later
received his first
violin lessons in his native Rochester, Ill.
He studied at the Leipzig Conservatory in
Germany and later under Eugen
Ysaye in Brussels and
Jacquest Thibaud in France. At 18, he
became
concertmaster of the
Berlin Philharmonic under Arthur Nikisch.
He made his first American tour in 1912,
performing with leading orchestras
and , in 1923, was
named concertmaster and assistant conductor of the San
Francisco Symphony
Orchestra. He was also first violinist
of the San
Francisco Chamber Music
Society, and in those associations encountered several young performers who
were to become his pupils.
Taught Isaac Stern
In his years on the West Coast and later in
New York he taught Isaac Stern,
Louise Behrend, Joseph
Knitzer, Dorothey Minty, Fredell Lack, Murray Adler and Camilla Wicks.
In recent years, Mr. Persinger had served on
juries at the Wieniawski
violin competitions in
Poland, the Queen Elisabeth competition in Brussels,
the Sibelius contest in
Finland and, three months ago, the Paganini competiion in Genoa, Italy.
The musician’s hobby was chess, and he was a
tournament player representing the Marshall and London Terrace Chess Clubs
here.
Mr. Persinger’s first wife, the former
Angela Gianelli, died in 1953. They
were the parents of
Rolf, now principal violist of the San Francisco Symphony, and Louis Jr. who
lives in Seattle. In 1956 Mr. Persinger
married a former pupil, Joan Howard.
Their children are Lionel, Lemont, Lendanya and Lestra.
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Year: 1930; Census
Place: Queens, Queens, New York; Roll: 1610; Page: 18A; Enumeration District:
1535 - this shows a son, not shown on the 1920 census, that is Charles A. age
20.
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Yehudi Menuhin and
Louis Persinger
Yehudi MENUHIN was
first brought to Louis Persinger for lessons when he was barely six years old,
(in San Francisco), and the musical relationship began which has resulted in
Yehudi's present extraordinary musical understanding and phenomenal virtuosity. After a year's study, Zimbalist, Elman, Hertz
and others were invited in to hear the lad play. All were astounded and the boy
was favorably compared to the talent of Heifetz at the age of nine.
Lessons with Persinger
continued, and on March 30, 1925, Yehudi gave his first complete recital in San
Francisco, playing the Mendelssohn Concerto, Vieuxtemps' Fantasia appasionata,
and other taxing works, with Persinger playing the accompaniments. Yehudi was
greeted by critics and public as a genius.
In the fall of 1925,
when Persinger went east on a tour with the San Francisco Chamber Music Society
(the string quartet of which has now become known as the Persinger Quartet)
Yehudi was taken to New York by his parents, to continue his lessons, Persinger
taking him every day while in
New York. In January,
1926, Yehudi, with Louis Persinger at the piano, gave a recital at the
Manhattan Opera House,playing a Handel sonata, the Lalo Symphonie Espagnole,
the Paganini Concerto, and a group of pieces ending with Sarasate's
Zigeunerweisen. The concert was an extraordinary success. All the encores were
exhausted, a mob of enthusiasts stormed the stage, and Yehudi had to be
smuggled out through a tunnel! 11 offers
of concerts were refused by his sensible parents, and they returned immediately
to San Fransisco, where he resumed his work with Persinger.
In March, 1926, the boy
made his first orchestral appearance, with the San Francisco Symphony, Louis
Persinger conducting; and the same month another San Francisco recital, with
Persinger at the piano.
In November, 1926,
Yehudi again appeared with the San Francisco Symphony, Alfred Hertz conducting,
before an audience of eleven thousand. Again all the encores were exhausted and
the boy had to be smuggled out of the hall. On this occasion he played the
Tschaikowski Concerto.
After that final
appearance he took up the study of the Beethoven concerto with
Persinger,something he had longed and begged for for more than a year!
Early this year his
parents took him abroad for further broadening experience and concertizing. His two appearances with the famous old
l'amourcaux orchestra in Paris were sensational successes, and for the first
time in forty years the no-encore rule had to be broken ! After another year in
France, England and Germany, Yehudi will return to America, to continue his
studying with Louis Persinger and to play a few concert engagements. The
parents will refrain from exploiting the boy, and he will be allowed to play
only a few concerts a season.
The following, from a
recent letter to the editor of "The Violinist," may be of interest to
our readers:
"Yes, Yehudi does
seem to be quite a sturdy little fellow. His parents keep him swathed in heavy
underwear all the time, to lessen the chance of his catching colds (he had
pneumonia a couple of times, as a very small boylet) It was always painful for
me to watch the little fellow going through the
perspiration-coated
gymnastics of the Tschaikowski Concerto, for instance, when I knew how warm he
must have been under the wings ! He does get a bit of exercise, though, and
writes me that they walk the streets of Paris for three hours a day,
discovering odd historical corners and 2 sights which awe him and his two
little sisters exceedingly .
His mother and father
are with him, too, and his school studies are all mapped out for him, just as
they were in San Francisco. He is using a seven-eighths violin now, supposedly
a Grancino.
It's a small
seven-eighths, though; and his bow, a three-quarter size, is really too long
for him, so that it sometimes disappears around the corner a bit on one of
those intense, long-drawn-out tones.
Yehudi is as pink and
sweet and dimplish as a baby, and is not at all what one expects a violin
prodigy to look like. May he remain that way !
"Yehudi's parents
are extremely clever; sensitive, high-strung and intensely musical, although
neither of them play any instrument to speak of. I believe the mother did play
the piano a bit, at one time, and Mr. Menuhin's grandfather was a Chassidic
rabbi! That may account for the stream of
imagination and
ecstatic something or other which runs through the whole family. No, they are
not of "American" blood, for the mother (Marutha) was born in the
Crimea, Russia, and the father (Moshe) in Palestine itself ! The names of the
two little sisters are Yaltah and Hephzibah, —hardly very Yankec-sounding! Both
of them show a remarkable gift for the piano, too. You would take them for
Scandinavians, for they are all very blonde and fresh-looking But Hebrew to the
core !
"Just received a
batch of Paris criticisms from Yehudi todays of thc first Lamoureaux orchestra
appearance, on February 6th. They certainly are flattering in the extreme ! But
luckily his parents
will keep the
flattering things from his eyes"
More About LOUIS H. (2) PERSINGER:
Event 1: Raised in
Colorado Springs where his early
Event 2: music training
was. See music encyclopedia
62. ALBERT MORTON9 PERSINGER (ALFRED RICHARD *8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 19, 1864 in Washington Co, IN; or March 15?, and died Nov 17, 1890 in
Washington Co., IN, uncertain if had children (md. 3yrs). He married NANCY ALICE BOWERS Jul
13, 1887 in Washington Co, IN; Vol.J, Pg.469; This marriage may have been
earlier, prob. 1882 ?, daughter of GEORGE BOWERS and MINERVA CARTER. She
was born 1857 in IN- believe went by Alice, and died Feb 17, 1891 in Jefferson
Twp.H28, Pg.162;Not buried with Albert, probably remarried.
Notes for ALBERT MORTON PERSINGER:
In 1880 he is 16y.o.
and living with his Mother & Step-Father, John Johnson at Washington Co, IN
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He is buried at The
Walnut Ridge/ Monroe Cem. at Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN.
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From Martha Bowers
November 9, 2005:
I found Nancy A. Persinger sued Albert M.
for divorce sometime between Dec. 1889 & Dec. 1991- I then went to the
Courthouse to check on the divorce. Nancy A. filed Oct. 6 1890 and on Dec. 8
1890 it was dismissed because of Albert's death. There is never a reason for
filing, so don't know what caused the problem.
In checking my
marriage books, I found Maggie M. Bowers married Elacy Brewer on Sept. 11,
1900. She listed parents as Lon Myers & Alice Bowers. Then Jana & I
remembered a friend telling Jana that Lon was a married man and Alice lived
near by in the neighborhood. Maggie was listed as 20 years old in 1900.
Walter Persinger
married Elsie Herbert in Washington Co. and stated his parents were Albert
Persinger & Alice Bowers and this was his 2nd marriage. Both he and Elsie
were living in Shelby Co. but came to Wash. Co. to get married.
Mable L. Pennington's
death record says her parents were Thomas Enoch & Ruth Coffin. I am sure
there would be an obit for her, but did not think to look for it today. I don't
know how Mable got mixed up with the Bowers & Persingers. Did not find her
living with anyone but her parents in the census.
More About ALBERT MORTON PERSINGER:
Burial: Walnut Ridge
Cem, Washington Co, IN
Notes for NANCY ALICE BOWERS:
I'm assuming her first
name is Nancy, middle Alice, but have never seen the two names together. She is Alice in 1870 10 yrs.older is a Nancy A. - and Albert
Morton Persingers marriage shows wife is Alice Bowers, so, I'm showing both
names on the family group sheet til a better supported conclusion can be drawn.
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From Martha Bowers,
Nov. 2005:
I then went to the
Courthouse to check on the divorce. Nancy A. filed Oct. 6 1890 and on Dec. 8
1890 it was dismissed because of Albert's death. There is never a reason for
filing, so don't know what caused the problem.
Child of ALBERT PERSINGER
and NANCY BOWERS is:
i. WALTER10
PERSINGER, b. Dec 28, 1886, Washington Co, IN; or b. 1884 or 88 ?; d. Apr 30,
1952, Hanover Twp., Shelby Co, IN 67 yrs; m. (1) CARRIE BEATRICE GRAY, Nov
30, 1910, Shelby Co, Indiana or 11-25? -book 20, page 323.; b. Jan 22, 1883,
Indiana; or born 1882 as Obituary suggests; d. Nov 24, 1926, Both Bur. at the
Fairland Cem.; 44 yrs. old; m. (2) ELSIE HERBERT, Jan 04, 1931; b. Jan 22, 1904, Ripley Co, IN.
Notes for WALTER PERSINGER:
Sept. 27, 2005:
For years, I'd assumed Albert had no
children as I knew he died not long after first married, and I could find no
Persinger children that were with a woman named Alice in the 1900 census. But in Sept. 05, I talked to Betty Jo Peden,
wife of George Peden who lives near the Haley Cemetery. Her records showed 3 children from
Albert. She could not supply evidence
for this and admitted this was work of others, the most significant source had
died. I found Walter but he was at
Shelby County, Indiana 1910 & 20.
Granted, Walter did have a son named Albert... but I wondered if Betty's
source didn't assimilate the idea this was Alfred's Grandson, only because
Walter had a son Albert. Needed real
evidence. So, will continue this search
at Shelby Co. I later found Walter in
1900 at Washington Co, and clinching that this is ours by the fact that he was
living as Grandson of George Bowers, who until then had not known who Alice's
parents were. Then found George at
Jefferson Twp, Washington in earlier census records of 1860 & 1870 with
daughter Alice & Nancy A. respectively born about 1857. - ag
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THE SHELBYVILLE NEWS
Thursday May 1, 1952
HEART ATTACK FATAL TO
FARMER
Walter Persinger, 67,
Dies At W. S. Major Hospital
Walter Persinger, Hanover township farmer and Shelby county
resident since boyhood, died at the W. S. Major hospital at 10:10 o’clock
Wednesday night. Mr. Persinger had
suffered two minor heart attacks during the day Wednesday and suffered the
third attack at 9:15 last night while driving on State Highway 44 west of this
city. He was 67 years of age.
Born in Washington county December 28, 1884, he was the son of
Albert and Alice (Bowers) Persinger. On
November 25, 1910 he was married to Carrie Gray, who preceded him in death in
November 1926. Mr. Persinger held
membership in the Fairland Baptist church.
Survivors are seven children, Byron and Gray Persinger of
Fairland; Mrs. Edith L. Kehrt, rural route 4; Mrs. Martha Jean Law, Morristown;
Mrs. Mary Irene Travis, Indianapolis; Mrs. Ann L. Moore, Topeka, Kansas, and
Mrs. Beatrice McKay of Rushville. Also
surviving are 10 grandchildren and two sisters, Mrs. Maggie Brewer of Salem,
R.R. and Mrs. Mabel Pennington of Salem
Funeral rites will be held Saturday at 2:00 p.m. at the Ewing
Mortuary, with Rev. Archer Shirley officiating.
Burial will be in the Fairland cemetery.
Friends may call at the mortuary after 10:00 o’clock Friday morning.
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1900: He is living with his GP's George &
Minerva Bowers at Washington Co. and is clearly shown born December 1886, yet
his Obituary above says born December 1884 and the 1910 & 20 census also
suggest the more recent BDs with ages ending in 23 & 34 respectively.
1900 census of
Washington Co., Jefferson, Indiana
Bowers , George
head Feb 1825 75
m50 Ind. Ktky.
Ind.
Minerva wife Sept 1831
68 m50 13 8 Ind.
Ktky. Ind.
Persinger, Walter g-son
Dec 1886 13 Ind. Ind.
Ind.
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PERSINGER, WALTER (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , SHELBY, MORAL
TWP
Age: 23, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 379
Page: 254
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PERSINGER, WALTER (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , SHELBY,
WASHINGTON TWP
Age: 34, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 465
Page: 264
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This is the only one I
can find that fits by BD to within a month, but not the DD:
I also don't think it
is Albert's son because the California death records show this one born at
Ohio, but it leaves the Mother's maiden name blank.
Walter PERSINGER
Birth Date: 12 Jan 1888
Death Date: May 1976
Social Security
Number: 372-01-4879
State or Territory
Where Number Was Issued: Michigan
Actual Death Residence: California
Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 92370
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When Walter registered
for the WW1 draft in Shelbyville, Ind on Jun 5, 1917, he indicated that he was
30 years of age with a DOB of Dec 28, 1886, and born in Washington county, Ind.
He was a farmer, working for himself, married with a wife and 3 children. He
was of medium build, with brown hair and eyes.
He married Carrie B
Gray on 30 Nov 1910 in Shelby county, source is book 20, page 323. He is in the
1930 census for Indiana, Shelby county, Brandywine township, Dist 7, sheet 12B.
He is listed as a widower with a few more children.
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Persinger, David L
4420 W 800th N
Fairland, IN 46126-9438
317-835-7542 or
317-512-9738
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October 2005, Final
confirmation came from the Shelbyville, IN library, when they sent me marriages
of several of Walter's children & an obituary for Walter & Carrie. Walter's clearly states him being son of
Albert M. Persinger & Alice Bowers and that he was born at Washington
County, all as expected.
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Obituary scanned image
is in his scrapbook, says buried at Fairland Cem, same as his wife was several
years earlier.
Notes for CARRIE BEATRICE GRAY:
Carrie is shown born
January 1883 on the 1900 census at Shelby Co, but shows 1882 on her obituary:
THE SHELBYVILLE
REPUBLICAN
Wednesday November 24,
1926
Page 1 column 4
CARRIE PERSINGER DIES
AT FAIRLAND
Death Caused By
Apoplexy – Had Been in Failing Health For a Year
FUNERAL FRIDAY MORNING
Mrs. Carrie Beatrice Persinger, 44 years old, wife of Walter
Persinger, died at her home northeast of Fairland in Brandywine township from
apoplexy about six o’clock this morning.
Although she had been in ill health for the past year, her death was
quite unexpected and comes as a shock to her family and large circle of
friends.
Mrs. Persinger was born January 22, 1882, the daughter of Mr.
and Mrs. George Gray. Her mother died
two and one-half years ago. She was
married November 25, 1910, to Walter Persinger.
She leaves seven children, Mary Irene, Byron Walter, Albert Gray, Edith
Louise, Ann Lucile, Beatrice Lillian and Martha Jean. Besides her husband, father and children, she
leaves a brother, Rory Gray and a sister, Mrs. Mary Howard, both of Sugar Creek
township and several aunts and uncles.
She united with the Fairland Baptist church early in life and
has been a faithful church member ever since.
Funeral services will be held at the Fairland Baptist church
Friday morning at 10 o’clock with the Rev. I. C. Overman, pastor of the First
Baptist church of Shelbyville officiating, assisted by the Rev. Emril
Sites. Burial will be in the Fairland
cemetery in charge of C. F. Fix and Son,. Funeral directors.
63. SARAH MARIA9 ABBOTT (AMERICA JANE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 03, 1855 in IN -per 1870/80 cen.-also had 2 infant deaths 1881 & 85,
and died Feb 06, 1920 in Jefferson Co, IL.
She married HORACE BOUDINOT WILSON Mar 23, 1877 in (or possibly Dec. 12, 1877?),
son of WILLIAM WILSON and SUSAN BOUDINOT. He
was born Dec 12, 1851 in OH, and died Feb 18, 1933 in Jefferson Co, IL - He had
4 wives (Sarah Abbott is 2nd).
More About SARAH MARIA ABBOTT:
Burial: Garrison
Temple Cem., Jefferson Co, IL
Notes for HORACE BOUDINOT WILSON:
WILSON, HORACE B (1900 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON
Age: 43, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T623 Roll: 308
Page: 78
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1930 U.S. Census
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON TWP
Series: T626 Roll: 521
Page: 17
Children of SARAH ABBOTT and HORACE WILSON are:
i. HARRIET ANN10 WILSON,
b. Jan 08, 1878, IL, no children as of 1910; d. Sep 04, 1941, Bur. Garrison
Temple Cem. - Wayne Co, IL; m. CHARLES HELM, 1892, 1920 cens. shows married 8 yrs.; b. Sep
1874, IL.
Notes for CHARLES HELM:
HELM, CHARLES (1900 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , WAYNE,
HICKORY HILL TWP
Age: 26, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T623 Roll: 351
Page: 145
ii. NORA L. WILSON, b. Jul 08, 1879, IL -per 1880 census - or
B:1887?; d. Jul 28, 1925; m. FRED GREENWALT, 1901, Married 9 yrs. on 1910 census; b. Mar
31, 1881, IL; d. Nov 03, 1947.
Notes for NORA L. WILSON:
GREENWALT, FRED (1910 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON TWP
Age: 29, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T624 Roll: 294
Page: 68
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GREENWALT, FRED (1920 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON
Age: 38, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T625 Roll: 376
Page: 193
iii. CORA ROXANNE WILSON, b. Oct 21, 1881, IL; d. 1974; m. TYRA MILLS; b.
1882, IL; d. Aft. 1930.
Notes for CORA ROXANNE WILSON:
MILLS, TYRA A (1920 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON
Age: 38, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T625 Roll: 376
Page: 196
iv. JAMES A. WILSON, b. Jun 17, 1887; d. Nov 19, 1918; m. BELLE GREENWALT; b.
Abt. 1888.
v. BENJAMIN HORACE WILSON, b. Jul 13, 1888, IL-shown as Benjamin H. in
1920 & 30; d. Mar 18, 1943; m. ORA EMMA ELLIS; b. Oct 06, 1889, IL- mother prob. Martha J.?;
d. Feb 23, 1988.
Notes for BENJAMIN HORACE WILSON:
WILSON, BEN H (1920 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON
Co, FARRINGTON twp.
Age: 30, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T625 Roll: 376
Page: 191
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(1930 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON TWP
Series: T626 Roll: 521
Page: 17
vi. KATE L. WILSON, b. Jul 13, 1888; d. Jan 23, 1928, Or Jan. 3,
1928; m. ED DONOHO; b. Abt. 1898.
vii. AMOS ABBOTT WILSON, b. Sep 11, 1892, IL; d. 1971, GF of Harold
Minor; m. MINNIE BELLE BARR; b. 1894, IL; d. 1970.
Notes for AMOS ABBOTT WILSON:
1930 U.S. Census
ILLINOIS , JEFFERSON,
FARRINGTON TWP
Series: T626 Roll: 521
Page: 11
viii. SARAH MAE WILSON, b. Nov 06, 1897, IL-1900 Cen. has her as
Carrie, 10 & 20 as Mae; d. Apr 14, 1967, this is U.M. Scott & Wanda
Livesay's GM; m. EVERETT GREGORY, Sep 27, 1916; b. 1894, IL; d. Aft. 1920, Both
bur. at Garrison Temple Cem, Wayne Co, IL.
Notes for SARAH MAE WILSON:
GREGORY, EVERETT (1920 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , WAYNE,
HICKORY HILL
Age: 25, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T625 Roll: 413
Page: 131
64. HESTER ANNIE9 ABBOTT (AMERICA JANE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 01, 1862 in Leesville, Lawrence Co, IN - (per Baker sisters), and died 1899
in Harvey Co, near Halstead, Kansas. She
married LEONARD ANDREW FOSTER Nov 15, 1883, son of GEORGE FOSTER and
JANE
HAYWOOD. He was born 1857 in or 1858;
remarried 2 yrs. after Hester Annie's death, and died 1942 in They moved to
Kansas from Wayne Co, Illinois.
Notes for HESTER ANNIE ABBOTT:
Her Grandaughter, Anna
Foster (now Anderson) of Coos Bay, Oregon has sent me copies of Hester Annie's
teaching certificates in 3 counties of Southern, Illinois:
August 1879 at Clay
Co, IL
August 1881 at Marion
Co, IL (signed by J.B. Abbott, County Superintendent of Schools - so is he
related ?)
September 1881 at
Jefferson Co, IL
August 1882 at Clay
Co, IL
These suggest that she
was teaching 2nd Grade classes.
Children of HESTER ABBOTT and
LEONARD
FOSTER are:
i. CLAUDE GEORGE10 FOSTER,
b. 1884; d. 1958; m. SUSAN ELIZABETH DAVIS; b. 1890; d. 1945.
ii. LORA ELIZABETH FOSTER, b. 1887; d. 1918; m. S. HENRY BERTRAND; b.
1887; d. 1971.
iii. LEROY ROSCOE FOSTER, b. 1888; d. 1967.
iv. ZEPH HAYWARD FOSTER, b. Jan 25, 1891, Halstead, Kansas - info. from
daught. Anna Foster; d. Mar 1992, The Dalles, Oregon; m. JENEVA BARBARA PRITCHETT;
b. 1896, or PRICKETT ?; d. 1985.
65. LOUISA CATHERINE9 ABBOTT (AMERICA JANE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 25, 1864 in Indiana - per 1880 census - or sp. Louise, and died Dec 12,
1894 in This is Calvin's 2nd wife - or Dec. 12, 1895 ?. She married CALVIN P. WILSON Feb 12,
1885 in Jefferson Co, IL- V.006-Pg.0130, Lic.# 00000024, son of WILLIAM WILSON and
SUSAN
BOUDINOT. He was born Feb 07, 1846, and
died Feb 24, 1927.
Children of LOUISA ABBOTT and
CALVIN
WILSON are:
i. OLIVE10 WILSON,
b. Abt. 1886; m. BRADFORD DONOHO; b. Abt. 1885.
ii. GEORGE WILSON, b. Abt. 1889; m. HATTIE BARNARD; b.
Abt. 1890.
iii. HULDA REBECCA WILSON, b. Abt. 1892, "Becky"; m. CHARLES SMITH; b.
Abt. 1890.
66. LOUESE9 ABBOTT (AMERICA JANE8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 25, 1864 in Indiana - per 1880 census - this is written Lovesa in 1880, and
died 1929 in may have been born 1865 instead of 1864 ?. She married SAMUEL LENTZ. He was born 1849, and died 1907.
Children of LOUESE ABBOTT and
SAMUEL
LENTZ are:
i. KATIE PEARL10 LENTZ, b.
1888; d. 1888.
ii. BRUCE ABBOTT LENTZ, b. 1890.
iii. ANNA E. LENTZ, b. 1895.
67. MARY CATHERINE9 PERSINGER (RANDALL W.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Sep 19, 1875 in Washington Co, Indiana, and died Dec 26, 1944 in bur. at
Covenanter/Rice Cem, Washington Co, IN.
She married MOSES RAY TIPPIN Apr 18, 1895, son of WILLIAM TIPPIN and
MARTHA
MCCLAY. He was born May 30, 1847, and died Sep 19,
1926.
More About MARY CATHERINE
PERSINGER:
Burial:
Rice-Covenanter Cem., Jefferson Twp, Washington Co, IN
Notes for MOSES RAY TIPPIN:
1910 - this says the
Chester A. Persinger living with him is a "nephew" but actually I
believe he is Moses' brother-in-law, mearing his wife's younger brother.
TIPPIN, MOSES R (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 62, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 387
Page: 76
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TIPPIN, MOSES R (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 73, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 471
Page: 163
More About MOSES RAY TIPPIN:
Burial: Rice-Coventer
Cem.
Children of MARY PERSINGER and
MOSES
TIPPIN are:
i. LULA M.10 TIPPIN,
b. Dec 12, 1896; d. Dec 06, 1943.
ii. RAY TIPPIN, b. Jan 15, 1900; d. Oct 01, 1900, died as an
infant.
iii. MARTHA G. TIPPIN, b. Mar 23, 1903.
More About MARTHA G. TIPPIN:
Burial: Covenanter/Rice
Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Washington County, Indiana
iv. WILLIAM TIPPIN, b. Feb 22, 1905, spelled Tippin or Tippen; d.
Apr 22, 1958; m. ANNA BERNICE TRUEBLOOD, Feb 22, 1935; b. Oct 25, 1909, Washington
Co, IN; d. May 03, 1982.
More About WILLIAM TIPPIN:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Washington Co, IN
More About ANNA BERNICE TRUEBLOOD:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem.
v. OLIVER TIPPIN, b. Sep 18, 1907; d. Apr 11, 1996; m. EUNICE J. ALEXANDER; b.
Abt. 1908.
vi. HARRY TIPPIN, b. Mar 20, 1909; d. Sep 23, 1988; m. CHRISTINE WESNER;
b. Abt. 1910.
More About HARRY TIPPIN:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem IN
vii. EVA HARRIETT TIPPIN, b. Aug 18, 1910; d. Aug 07, 1938, Bur. at
Conenanter/ Rice Cem, Washington Co, IN.
More About EVA HARRIETT TIPPIN:
Burial: Coventer/ Rice
Cem. Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.IN
68. SARAH E.9 PERSINGER (RANDALL W.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 1877 in Washington Co, IN. She
married WILLIAM NELSON. He was
born Abt. 1875.
Child of SARAH PERSINGER
and WILLIAM NELSON is:
i. WILMA10 NELSON,
b. Oct 16, 1894; d. Jan 16, 1897.
69. MARTHA ANN9 PERSINGER (RANDALL W.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Dec 19, 1879 in Washington Co, IN; ancestor of Anita Aldrich, and died Feb 17,
1950 in Medora, IN-Jackson Co.. She
married EDWARD GILBERT Mar 24, 1896 in Washington Co, IN. He was born Nov 1867 in Or 1868; 1900 census
says Nov. 1867, and died 1944.
Notes for EDWARD GILBERT:
GILBERT, EDWARD (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
CARR TWP
Age: 33, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 378
Page: 39
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GILBERT, EDWARD (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
CARR TWP
Age: 41, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 357
Page: 46
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GILBERT, EDWARD (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
CARR TWP
Age: 51, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 41
Children of MARTHA PERSINGER
and EDWARD GILBERT are:
i. ELSIE V.10 GILBERT,
b. Oct 1897, Indiana.
ii. CLARENCE W. GILBERT, b. Mar 1899, Indiana.
iii. NELLIE GILBERT, b. 1901, Indiana.
iv. RETTIE E. GILBERT, b. 1904, Indiana; d. Abt. 1924; m. CARROL HOBSON; b.
Abt. 1903.
v. OTIS C. GILBERT, b. 1909, Indiana.
70. CHESTER ARTHUR9 PERSINGER (RANDALL W.8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jun 05, 1883 in Washington Co, IN -Ron Persinger's GrGF, and died Mar 16, 1957
in Medora, IN-Jackson Co.;At Jefferson Twp. Washington Co. 1920-30. He married EMMA JOHNSON. She was born 1887 in Indiana, and died 1967.
Notes for CHESTER ARTHUR PERSINGER:
PERSINGER, CHESTER
A (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 23, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 387
Page: 76
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PERSINGER,
CHESTER (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
JEFFERSON TWP
Age: 35, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 471
Page: 164
Children of CHESTER PERSINGER
and EMMA JOHNSON are:
i. OPAL10 PERSINGER,
b. 1911, Indiana; d. Aft. 1930.
ii. MERLE PERSINGER, b. 1913, Indiana; d. Aft. 1930.
iii. LOVEL PERSINGER, b. 1915, Indiana- Ron Persinger's GF; d.
Aft. 1930.
iv. DANON GLEN PERSINGER, b. 1917, Indiana- uncertain 1st name; d.
Aft. 1930.
v. MABEL C. PERSINGER, b. Dec 20, 1920, Indiana; d. Dec 10, 1996;
m. VICTOR O. COLLINS; b. Nov 28, 1911; d. Jun 23, 1964.
More About MABEL C. PERSINGER:
Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery, Salem, Washington
County, Indiana
More About VICTOR O. COLLINS:
Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery, Salem, Washington
County, Indiana
vi. LEONA PERSINGER, b. 1923, Indiana; d. Aft. 1930.
71. JOHN AMOS9 PERSINGER (JAMES HAMILTON8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jul 18, 1871 in Washington Co, IN, and died Jun 28, 1949 in Jackson Co, IN
-bur. Robertson Cem. Hamilton Twp.. He
married DELLA MAY MANION Apr 16, 1911 in Jackson Co, IN, daughter of JOHN MANION and ESTHER
ROBERTSON. She was born Dec 24, 1877 in
Brownstown, IN, and died Mar 22, 1967 in Dayton, OH; Bur. Robertson Cem,
Jackson Co, IN.
Notes for JOHN AMOS PERSINGER:
PERSINGER, JOHN A (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
JACKSON TWP
Age: 48, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 94
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
DELLA
MANION are:
i. MARY MAY10
PERSINGER, b. 1912, Indiana.
ii. GRACE IONA PERSINGER, b. 1913, Indiana.
iii. THOMAS EARL PERSINGER, b. 1917, Indiana.
72. LEWIS E. (3)9 PERSINGER (JAMES HAMILTON8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Sep 18, 1875 in He is Gr.GF of Heather Elliott, and died Oct 24, 1962 in
Washington Co, IN. He married ANNA ALBERTSON FLINN
Mar 20, 1901 in Washington Co, IN, daughter of WILLIAM FLINN and NANCY BOWERS. She was born Mar 06, 1881 in Indiana - per
1910 census, and died Mar 22, 1948 in Washington Co, IN.
Children of LEWIS PERSINGER
and ANNA FLINN are:
i. MYRTLE BELLE10
PERSINGER, b. Oct 01, 1902, Washington Co, IN; d. Jun 19, 1973, another
researcher says died aug 12, 1990; m. WILLIAM BAYNES; b. Jun 09, 1902; d. Feb 07, 1977, Washington
Co., IN.
ii. HALLIE MARIE PERSINGER, b. Apr 09, 1907, IN; d. Mar 12, 1979,
Washington Co, IN; m. CLEATIS L. FULTZ, Mar 13, 1926; b. Sep 08, 1904; d. Sep 12, 1986,
both @ Highland Friends Cemetary, Salem, IN.
iii. ZELLA PEARL PERSINGER, b. Nov 02, 1909, Ewing, Jackson Co, IN; or
poss. Feb. 11, 1909; d. Sep 01, 1991, Franklin, IN at Methodist Home; m. EARL MORRIS CAUBLE, Dec
22, 1927, Wash. Co., IN; b. Mar 19, 1906, Washington Co., IN; d. May 11, 1983, Salem, IN.
iv. HARRIET LOUISE PERSINGER, b. Dec 06, 1913, Washington Co, IN; d. Jul
20, 1917, Washington Co., IN.
More About HARRIET LOUISE PERSINGER:
Burial: Highland
Friends Cemetery, Washington Township, Washington County, Indiana
v. GERTRUDE ANNA PERSINGER, b. Aug 20, 1916, Washington Co, IN; d. Jan
20, 2003, Salem, Washington Co, IN; m. WILBUR MERRILL BARRETT, May 06, 1935, Jeffersonville, IN; b. Nov 20,
1910, Washington Co, IN; d. Mar 1981, Washington Co, IN.
vi. ROBERT LOUIS PERSINGER, b. Sep 09, 1920, Washington Co, IN; m. JUANITA ROBERTS; b.
Abt. 1922.
vii. MARGARET ELIZABETH PERSINGER, b. Sep 22, 1923, IN; d. Feb 09, 1970; m. EDGAR PAUL ALBERDING, Mar
10, 1946, Salem, IN; b. Aug 24, 1921, Salem, IN- Washington Co.; d. Jan 27,
2004, Port Orchard, WA.
More About MARGARET ELIZABETH PERSINGER:
Burial: Highland
Cemetery, Washington Township, Washington County, Indiana
73. ELIZA MATILDA "TILLIE"9 PERSINGER (JAMES HAMILTON8, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jul 12, 1879 in Salem, IN; or born July 12, 1877, and died Oct 13, 1937 in
Salem, IN. She married JOHN WILLIAM BREWER Aug
02, 1900 in Washington Co, IN, son of ISAAC BREWER and MARTHA HUGHES. He was
born Jul 18, 1869 in Salem, IN, and died Oct 31, 1949 in Salem, IN.
More About ELIZA MATILDA "TILLIE"
PERSINGER:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cemetery, Salem, Washington County, Indiana
Children of ELIZA PERSINGER
and JOHN BREWER are:
i. CHARITY CATHERINE10 BREWER,
b. Jan 18, 1902, Salem, IN; d. Jun 03, 1998, Salem, IN; m. EVERETT GRAVES; b.
Abt. 1902.
ii. ALBERTA BREWER, b. Abt. 1904; d. 1950.
iii. HARRY RUSSELL BREWER, b. Abt. 1906, Salem, IN; d. Aug 01, 1984,
Indianapolis, IN; m. EDNA MAE (?) BREWER; b. Abt. 1906.
iv. RUTH BREWER, b. Abt. 1907.
v. OLIVE ANNE BREWER, b. Jul 01, 1908; d. Dec 25, 1962, in MVA; m. JOHN WOODROW HARROLD,
Jul 05, 1936; b. 1912.
vi. HOWARD EMPSON BREWER, b. Jan 12, 1912, Salem, IN; d. Jul 28, 1984,
Indianapolis, IN; m. GLADYS MARIE FLEMING, 1947, Indianapolis, IN; b. 1915, England; d.
Apr 14, 1982, Indianapois, IN.
74. AMANDA ELDORA9 CARESS (SARAH ANN8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Oct 30, 1859 in Went by "Dora" - lived at Partridge, Kansas, and died
Aft. 1947 in Letters written by her tell some of family. She married JOHN WILLIAM
HAMILTON. He was born Oct 29, 1858, and
died Sep 04, 1931.
Children of AMANDA CARESS and
JOHN
HAMILTON are:
i. ADA M.10 HAMILTON,
b. Aug 19, 1886, lived in Belle Plain, Kansas; m. EARL F. CLARK, DR.; b. Abt. 1886.
ii. CLIFFORD O. HAMILTON, b. Jul 24, 1888; m. LACIE WHITE; b.
Abt. 1888.
iii. CARRIE E. HAMILTON, b. Jun 11, 1892, lived in Plevna, Kansas;
may be spelled Cary ?; m. NATHAN E. HINSHAW; b. Abt. 1892.
iv. HARRY C. HAMILTON, b. May 12, 1894, lived in Hutchinson,
Kansas; m. ESTHER SMITH; b. Abt. 1894.
v. MARY IMOGENE HAMILTON, b. Sep 05, 1895, went by "Imo"
lived in Hutchinson, Kansas; m. BYRAN E. TEDDER; b. Abt. 1894.
vi. CLARENCE ELI HAMILTON, b. Oct 23, 1900; m. FRANCES CROTTS; b.
Abt. 1900.
vii. CHARLIE W. HAMILTON, b. Sep 12, 1902; m. CLARE KERWIN; b.
Abt. 1904.
75. RACHEL9 CARESS (SARAH ANN8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Abt. 1860, and died Bef. 1938 in inferred from her Mother's obituary. She married WILLIAM SCHUYLER
BARNETT. He was born Abt. 1860 in
Inferred from Sarah P. COKER's obituary.
Children of RACHEL CARESS and
WILLIAM
BARNETT are:
i. JESSE E.10 BARNETT,
b. Abt. 1878, or 1888?; d. Mar 1892.
ii. CLIFFORD E. BARNETT, b. Dec 22, 1884; d. Feb 10, 1892.
76. GEORGE E.9 COKER (SARAH ANN8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 16, 1867, and died Nov 26, 1940. He
married MARY FLORENCE DENNEY Dec 05, 1889 in Salem, Washington Co, IN. She was born 1869, and died 1906.
Child of GEORGE COKER and MARY DENNEY is:
i. DELTHA C.10 COKER, b.
Jun 26, 1900; d. Nov 10, 1987; m. GEORGE FARRELL BOSLEY; b. Sep 17, 1886; d. Oct 31, 1956.
77. BENJAMIN F.9 COKER (SARAH ANN8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 1868, and died 1956 in Bur. at Winslow Cem, Washington Co, IN. He married CORA D. BOWERS,
daughter of JACOB BOWERS and SERILDA WESNER. She
was born 1870 in Indiana, and died 1939 in Bur. at Winslow Cem, Washington Co,
IN.
Children of BENJAMIN COKER and
CORA
BOWERS are:
i. CHARLES B.10 COKER, b.
Dec 18, 1892; d. Nov 07, 1959; m. LULA LLOYD; b. May 15, 1889; d. May 10, 1971.
ii. BLANCHE COKER, b. Dec 09, 1902; d. Sep 28, 1992; m. ROY OWENS; b. Feb
19, 1892; d. Apr 28, 1960.
iii. FRANK RAY COKER, b. Dec 04, 1908; d. Mar 14, 1942; m. LILLIAN EDITH LLOYD; b. Sep
08, 1910; d. Aug 27, 1939.
iv. ROY B. COKER, b. Mar 17, 1911; d. Nov 21, 1926.
78. CHARLES ERVIN9 COKER (SARAH ANN8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 08, 1885, and died Dec 01, 1956 in Ocala, Marion Co, FL. He married JOSIE LILLIAN COLGLAZIER
Apr 02, 1908 in Washington Co, IN. She
was born Mar 18, 1890 in Washington Co, IN, and died Sep 03, 1962 in St.
Petersburg, FL.
Notes for CHARLES ERVIN COKER:
Ocala, Marion County,
Florida
Children of CHARLES COKER and
JOSIE
COLGLAZIER are:
i. MORTON MARMADUKE10 COKER, b.
Sep 20, 1909, Washington Co, IN; d. Jun 15, 1972, Peoria, IL; m. MARY BONNIE HAND, Abt.
1930; b. Abt. 1910.
ii. CHARLES MEREDITH COKER, b. Nov 26, 1911, Kossuth, Des Moines Co, IA; d.
Aug 01, 1996, Peoria, IL; m. CHARLENE WHITE; b. Abt. 1912.
iii. RUSSELL COLGLAZIER COKER, b. Jan 01, 1915, Oklahoma; d. Aug 14, 1974,
Alton, IL; m. MARGARET RAMONA ZINK, Apr 15, 1936; b. Nov 25, 1916, Vermillion Co,
IN.
79. MARY ELIZA PAULINE9 COKER (SARAH ANN8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jan 03, 1878, and died Aug 09, 1961 in Iowa.
She married JOHN WRIGHT MEHAFFY Dec 09, 1896 in Plattsburg, Indiana. He was born Abt. 1878.
Child of MARY COKER and JOHN MEHAFFY is:
i. MYRTLE MARGEURITE10 MEHAFFY,
b. Sep 08, 1899, Linton, Iowa; d. Dec 18, 1996, Findlay, OH; McComb Cem.; m. FRANK LEMAN STEELE, Jun
01, 1922; b. Abt. 1898.
80. ANNA ELIZA9 COFFEY (ELIZA MATILDA8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Sep 06, 1876, and died Mar 21, 1942. She
married THOMAS M. DENNEY. He was
born Jul 06, 1878, and died Aug 14, 1944.
More About ANNA ELIZA COFFEY:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem, Salem, Washington Co, IN
More About THOMAS M. DENNEY:
Burial: w. Anna Eliza
Children of ANNA COFFEY and THOMAS DENNEY are:
i. MARION E.10 DENNEY,
b. Oct 26, 1905; d. Jul 08, 1988; m. ALICE E. THOMPSON; b. Abt. 1906.
ii. MARSHALL D. DENNEY, b. Sep 10, 1910; d. Nov 18, 1987; m. EULAH G. SOLIDAY; b. Apr
16, 1912; d. Sep 27, 1994.
More About MARSHALL D. DENNEY:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
More About EULAH G. SOLIDAY:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem IN
81. MINARD ERNEST9 COFFEY (ELIZA MATILDA8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Feb 11, 1883, and died Jan 05, 1961 in bur. Covenanter/Rice Cem, Washington Co,
IN. He married IDA MAY MCKNIGHT. She was born Oct 27, 1889, and died Aug 17,
1949.
Children of MINARD COFFEY and
IDA
MCKNIGHT
are:
i. JOHN C.10 COFFEY,
b. 1908; d. 1909.
ii. ERNEST ARTHUR COFFEY, b. Jun 22, 1913; d. Jan 23, 1944, Townsville,
Australia.
82. ESTELLA9 ELLIOTT (MARY POLLY8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 25, 1867, and died Sep 06, 1900. She
married FRANKLIN S. BOGGS Nov 04, 1896 in This is his 1st marriage, 2nd
was her sister, Sarah. He was born Apr
07, 1872 in He married sisters, Sarah & Estella Elliott, and died Oct 30,
1940.
More About ESTELLA ELLIOTT:
Burial: Covenanter /
Rice Cem., Washington Co, IN
More About FRANKLIN S. BOGGS:
Burial: w. Estella
Child of ESTELLA ELLIOTT
and FRANKLIN BOGGS is:
i. GRACE10 BOGGS, b.
Sep 05, 1897; d. Sep 21, 1899.
More About GRACE BOGGS:
Burial: Covenanter/Rice
Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Washington County, Indiana
83. ELIZABETH9 ELLIOTT (MARY POLLY8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 26, 1872 in "Lizzie", and died Nov 18, 1898. She married JOHN RUTH Sep 24, 1893. He was born Abt. 1870.
More About ELIZABETH ELLIOTT:
Burial:
Rice-Covenanter Cem.
Child of ELIZABETH ELLIOTT
and JOHN RUTH is:
i. ETHEL10 RUTH, b.
Oct 1895, Prob. orphaned, w. GM 1900 cen..
84. SARAH E.9 ELLIOTT (MARY POLLY8 PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 15, 1874 in Indiana- Paul Bower's GM, and died Jul 23, 1961. She married FRANKLIN S. BOGGS Mar 19,
1902 in His 2nd marriage. He was born
Apr 07, 1872 in He married sisters, Sarah & Estella Elliott, and died Oct
30, 1940.
More About SARAH E. ELLIOTT:
Burial:
Rice-Covenanter Cem., Washington Co, IN
More About FRANKLIN S. BOGGS:
Burial: w. Estella
Children of SARAH ELLIOTT and
FRANKLIN BOGGS are:
i. MARY10 BOGGS, b.
Mar 03, 1903.
ii. MYRTLE EVELLYN BOGGS, b. Nov 19, 1904, Paul Bowers' Mother; d. Dec
25, 1987; m. CLARENCE BOWERS, Abt. 1926; b. Dec 14, 1886, Indiana; d. Jul
27, 1977.
More About CLARENCE BOWERS:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cemetery, Salem, Washington County, Indiana
iii. ALBERT S. BOGGS, b. Mar 04, 1906; d. Mar 21, 1906.
iv. VIOLETTA MAY BOGGS, b. Feb 28, 1918; d. Mar 11, 1918, about 12 days
old.
85. WILLIAM9 ELLIOTT, JR. (MARY POLLY8
PERSINGER, LUKE *7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 11, 1886, and died May 05, 1982. He
married CORA DEAL BUSH Jan 01, 1905, daughter of JAMES BUSH and JULIANNA
LEGG. She was born Feb 18, 1885 in Not
sure these are their children ?, and died Nov 21, 1981.
Notes for WILLIAM ELLIOTT, JR.:
William
ELLIOTT
Birth
Date: 11 Apr 1886
Death
Date: May 1982
Social
Security Number: 313-28-3547
State
or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Indiana
Death
Residence Localities
ZIP
Code: 47167
Localities: Becks
Mill, Washington, Indiana
Bunker
Hill, Washington, Indiana
Canton,
Washington, Indiana
Harristown,
Washington, Indiana
Hitchcock,
Washington, Indiana
Kossuth,
Washington, Indiana
New
Philadelphia, Washington, Indiana
Salem,
Washington, Indiana
More About WILLIAM ELLIOTT, JR.:
Burial: Covenanter
(Rice) Cem.- Jefferson Twp, Washington Co.
More About CORA DEAL BUSH:
Burial: Covenanter
Cem. w. Wm. Jr. & Sr.
Children of WILLIAM ELLIOTT and
CORA
BUSH are:
i. ALBERT THURMAN10 ELLIOTT,
b. Jan 12, 1906; d. Feb 21, 1988; m. ELVA GOODPASTURE; b. Mar 09, 1905; d. 1995.
ii. HAZEL IRENE ELLIOTT, b. 1907; d. 1915.
iii. RALPH EDGAR ELLIOTT, b. 1913; d. 1915.
86. ALBERT THOMPSON9 HAUGER (ELIZABETH8 FULTZ, SARAH7
PERSINGER, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 17, 1841 in Washington Co, IN; 2nd wife, Martha, and died Dec 09,
1926. He married (1) SARAH ALEXANDER
Bef. 1864. She was born Abt. 1842 in
Indiana, and died Aug 20, 1887. He
married (2) MARTHA FRANCES LAUNIS 1888.
She was born Nov 06, 1859 in or 1858 per 1900 cen., and died Apr 04,
1942.
Notes for ALBERT THOMPSON HAUGER:
1870 census >
Indiana > WASHINGTON
Co> PIERCE TWP Series: M593 Roll: 369
Page: 163
HAUGER
ALBERT T 29
M W IN
Shown above with 3 children
(all daughters) and wife Sarah
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1880: is this him, was
wife's name Sarah Ann?
Thompson HAUGER Self M Male W 43 IN Farmer IN IN
Annie HAUGER
Wife M Female W 40 IN Keeping House
IN IN
Eva HAUGER
Dau S Female W 14 IN At Home
IN IN
Lillie HAUGER
Dau S Female W 9 IN At
Home IN IN
Annie HAUGER
Dau S Female W 7 IN At
Home IN IN
Louis BRUGH
Other W Male W 26 IN Boarder
IN IN
Mandy BRUGH
Other S Female W 1 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Washington, Washington,
Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 548D
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1900 cen > Indiana
> WASHINGTON Co. >
WASHINGTON TWP Series:
T623 Roll: 412 Page: 199
HAUGER
ALBERT T 59 M W IN
Shown with 2nd wife
and 3 new children
More About SARAH ALEXANDER:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem.
More About MARTHA FRANCES LAUNIS:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem.
Children of ALBERT HAUGER and
SARAH
ALEXANDER are:
i. HARRIETT E.10 HAUGER,
b. 1864.
ii. MINNIE EVELYN HAUGER, b. Sep 01, 1867, Indiana- no children after
md. 16 yrs. 1900; d. Jun 08, 1943; m. VIRGIL MCCOSKEY; b. Apr 16, 1861, Indiana; d. Oct 29, 1933.
Notes for MINNIE EVELYN HAUGER:
This 1900 census shows
she has had no children after 16 yrs. of marriage.
MCCOSKEY, VIRGEL (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
WASHINGTON TWP
Age: 39, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 412
Page: 161
More About MINNIE EVELYN HAUGER:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
iii. LILLIE MAY HAUGER, b. Oct 29, 1868; d. Oct 07, 1943; m. (1) CHARLEY PICKLER; b.
Abt. 1862; d. Oct 10, 1885, Salem, IN; m. (2) JAMES WILLIAM
GOODPASTURE, Aft. 1892; b. May 06, 1858; d. Apr 30, 1931.
More About LILLIE MAY HAUGER:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
More About CHARLEY PICKLER:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem.
More About JAMES WILLIAM
GOODPASTURE:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem., Salem, IN
Children of ALBERT HAUGER and
MARTHA
LAUNIS are:
iv. WILLIAM FRANKLIN10 HAUGER,
b. Apr 22, 1889; d. Apr 23, 1958; m. EFFIE MAE THOMPSON; b. Sep 02, 1892; d. Aug 15, 1914.
More About WILLIAM FRANKLIN HAUGER:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem, IN
v. ALICE ROBERTA HAUGER, b. May 17, 1890; d. Jul 08, 1960; m. FRED C. DAVIS; b. Sep
04, 1884, Washington Co, IN; d. Oct 10, 1965.
More About ALICE ROBERTA HAUGER:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem,
Salem< IN
More About FRED C. DAVIS:
Burial: Crown Hill Cem.
vi. ONETA B. HAUGER, b. Jun 1892.
87. SARAH J.9 HAUGER (ELIZABETH8 FULTZ, SARAH7
PERSINGER, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 10, 1846 in Washington Co, IN, and died Sep 11, 1921 in Washington Co, IN;
bur. Crown Hill cem, Salem. She married
WILLIAM
FRANCIS
MCMURRAN
Abt. 1861, son of WILLIAM MCMURRAN and EUSEBIA HARRISON. He
was born Jul 27, 1838 in Pennsylvania; Did he have 2nd wife, Mahala ?, and died
Jun 26, 1905 in Bur. at Crown Hill Cem, Salem, IN.
More About SARAH J. HAUGER:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem, Salem, IN
Notes for WILLIAM FRANCIS MCMURRAN:
Frank MC MURRAN Self M Male W 41 IN Farmer PA TN
J. Sarah MC MURRAN Wife M Female W 34 IN Keeping House
IN VA
Claudy E. MC MURRAN Dau S Female W 15 IN At School
IN IN
Cora MC MURRAN
Dau S Female W 13 IN At School
IN IN
Maud MC MURRAN
Dau S Female W 7 IN At
School IN IN
Thomas ROBINSON Other S Male W 54 IN Farmer IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Salem, Washington, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254321
NA
Film Number T9-0321
Page
Number 555C
More About WILLIAM FRANCIS MCMURRAN:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem.
Children of SARAH HAUGER and WILLIAM MCMURRAN are:
i. EDITH10 MCMURRAN, b. Jun
17, 1862; d. Apr 12, 1864, died age 1 yr.
More About EDITH MCMURRAN:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cem., Salem, IN
ii. CLAUDY E. MCMURRAN, b. 1864, Indiana - or 1865.
iii. CORA MCMURRAN, b. 1866, Indiana; or 1867.
iv. FREDDIE MCMURRAN, b. Oct 15, 1869, Indiana; d. Jul 17, 1871, died
as an infant.
v. MAUDE MCMURRAN, b. Jun 1872, Indiana- no surving children after
19 yrs. mg.; d. Bur at Crown Hill Cem, Salem, IN; m. NOBLE CUTSHAW; b.
Apr 1870, Indiana; d. Jun 23, 1934.
vi. CLAIRE MCMURRAN, b. Feb 1884, Indiana; d. Aft. 1900.
88. GEORGE A.9 PERSINGER (JOHN ALEXANDER8, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 01, 1853 in Mason Co, WV, and died Sep 26, 1927 in Apple Grove, Mason Co,
WV. He married MARTHA ELLEN HALLEY May
21, 1874 in Gallia Co, OH. She was born
Sep 15, 1852 in Gallia Co, OH or
HOLLEY?, and died Oct 25, 1946 in Apple Grove, Mason Co, WV.
Children of GEORGE PERSINGER
and MARTHA HALLEY are:
i. IRA10
PERSINGER, b. Apr 1875; m. MILLIE TAYLOR; b. Abt. 1885, WV.
ii. JOHN R. PERSINGER, b. Sep 1879; m. AMANDA T. HENRY, Mar 25,
1898, Galliopolis, Gallia Co, OH; b. 1876.
iii. ALDA MAE PERSINGER, b. May 1885, Mason Co, WV; d. 1920, Mason
Co, WV; m. GEORGE CALVIN HENRY; b. 1872, Mason Co, WV; d. 1966, Mason Co, WV.
iv. MARY M. PERSINGER, b. Oct 1895, uncertain of Mary's marital
status.
89. WILLIAM ISAAC9 PERSINGER (ANSEL8, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Sep 10, 1856 in Mason Co, WV, and died Aug 21, 1937 in Hagsett, Mason Co,
WV. He married (1) KATIE CHAPMAN Abt.
1874. She was born Abt. 1857. He married (2) NANCY J. HAGAN Aug 20,
1876 in Galliopolis, Gallia Co, OH. She
was born 1853 in Maybe HALLEY ?. He
married (3) KATHERINE MARIA JOHNSON May 10, 1890 in Gallia Co, OH, daughter of ISAAC JOHNSON and
RACHEL
CASTO. She was born Sep 24, 1846 in
Jackson Co, VA, and died Mar 12, 1921 in Mason Co, WV.
Children of WILLIAM PERSINGER
and NANCY HAGAN are:
i. ROBERT A.10
PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1878, Mason Co, WV; m. BESSIE V. PICKENS; b. Mar 25, 1883, Mason Co, WV.
ii. EDWARD PERSINGER, b. Abt. 1879.
90. MARTHA ALICE9 PERSINGER (ANSEL8, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 12, 1864 in Mason Co, WV, and died Nov 13, 1887 in Mason Co, WV. She married GEORGE WASHINGTON DENNEY
Jun 29, 1876 in Gallia Co, OH, son of LITTLETON DENNEY and DOROTHY HUDSON. He was
born Jun 28, 1852 in KY, and died Apr 06, 1932 in Galliopolis, Gallia Co, OH.
Children of MARTHA PERSINGER
and GEORGE DENNEY are:
i. MARY FRANCES10 DENNEY,
b. Jun 09, 1877, Mason Co, WV; d. Sep 01, 1960, Snohomish, Snohomish Co, WA; m.
(1) THOMAS JACKSON BURROWS, Aug 11, 1891, Mason Co, WV; b. Mar 09, 1871, Putnam
Co, WV; d. Jan 25, 1924, Hagsett, Mason Co, WV; m. (2) HARRY COOPER, Sep
16, 1909; b. Abt. 1875.
ii. GEORGIANNA DENNEY, b. Oct 14, 1879, Mason Co, WV; d. Jun 23,
1934, Laura, Miami Co, OH; m. WILLIAM ISAAC EADS, May 19, 1898, Gallia Co, OH; b. Apr 03, 1872,
Mason Co, WV; d. Aft. 1934.
91. THOMAS JACKSON9 PERSINGER (ANSEL8, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1867 in Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; Lois Downour's GF, and died Jun 01, 1935 in
Hogsett, Mason Co, WV-children w. all 3 mgs.
He married (1) VIRGINIA CATHERINE KINNARD Aug 28, 1884 in Hogsett, Mason Co, WV- his
1st marriage, daughter of JOSEPH KINNARD and CHARLOTTE SMITH. She was
born 1863, and died Apr 06, 1887 in Apparently from childbirth, only
child. He married (2) EMMA "FANNIE"
SIDERS Jun 18, 1892 in Mason Co, WV- his 2nd marriage. She was born 1866. He married (3) GERTIE MINK Jun
14, 1911 in Columbus, OH - his 3rd marriage, daughter of GEORGE MINK and BARBARA
NEVILLE. She was born Feb 09, 1891 in
Mason Co, WV, and died Oct 11, 1959 in Baltimore, MD.
Child of THOMAS PERSINGER
and VIRGINIA KINNARD is:
i. CARRIE L.10
PERSINGER, b. Apr 06, 1887, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d. Mar 06, 1962, Dayton, OH;
m. (1) CARL ROBERT MARTIN; b. Abt. 1886; m. (2) CHARLES WITHERS,
Abt. 1902, Her 1st marriage; b. Abt. 1886.
Children of THOMAS PERSINGER
and EMMA SIDERS are:
ii. HARRY B.10
PERSINGER, b. Aug 22, 1893; d. Apr 16, 1962, Pleasantville, OH, lived at Prince
George Co, MD; m. MARY EDNA (?) PERSINGER; b. Abt. 1894, NC.
iii. HENRY D. PERSINGER, b. May 29, 1895, Injured in WWI, declared
insane.
iv. DOROTHY D. PERSINGER, b. Jul 06, 1898, Mason Co, WV; d. Dec 18,
1984, Lancaster, Fairfield Co, OH; m. ERNEST M. MOWERY; b. Abt. 1897; d. Bef. 1984.
v. FRANCES V. PERSINGER, b. Jul 26, 1900; d. Apr 01, 1973,
Lancaster, Fairfield Co, OH; m. (1) ALFRED M. DARST, 1919, Her 2nd marriage; b. 1902; d. Jan 07,
1987, Columbus, OH; m. (2) SHERIDAN RUSSELL, Abt. 1946; b. Apr 07, 1896; d. Mar 1975.
Children of THOMAS PERSINGER
and GERTIE MINK are:
vi. EARL EDWARD10
PERSINGER, b. Nov 26, 1913, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d. Sep 04, 1979, Lorain, OH;
m. (1) EDNA KING, Abt. 1931, His 1st marriage; b. Abt. 1914; d. Shot and killed at
Baltimore, OH; m. (2) LUCILLE MAUDE HOUGHTON, Abt. 1957, His 2nd marriage; b. Oct 01,
1917; d. Mar 14, 1982.
vii. LEWIS ALMOND PERSINGER, b. May 15, 1915, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d.
Nov 11, 1971, Baltimore, OH - adopted children; m. EDNA FRANCES BURROWS; b.
Mar 16, 1918; d. Aug 07, 1971.
viii. JAMES THOMAS PERSINGER, b. Oct 02, 1918, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d.
Jul 28, 1953, Lancaster, OH- MVA; m. BONIE MAE KING, Aug 1939; b. May 18, 1910, Hogsett, Kanawha Co,
WV; d. Sep 28, 1966, Apple Grove, Mason Co, WV.
ix. WARREN G. HARDING PERSINGER, b. 1921, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d. Abt.
1926, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV.
x. EDNA VIRGINIA PERSINGER, b. Jul 28, 1923, Hagsett, Mason Co, WV
-twin of Ina; d. May 22, 2000, Lancaster, OH; m. (1) ELMER STANLEY BURROWS,
Aug 1939; b. Nov 27, 1891; d. Sep 1956; m. (2) CLARENCE ALBERT STEELE, Jul
28, 1959; b. Abt. 1923.
xi. INA GERTRUDE PERSINGER, b. Jul 1923, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV- twin of
Edna; d. Living at Galliopolis Ferry, Mason Co, WV; m. LAWRENCE ELMER BURRIS, Sep
30, 1939; b. 1918, Delaware, OH.
xii. MARY ALICE PERSINGER, b. Sep 10, 1925, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d.
Aug 19, 1998, At Daughter's home, Crooksville, OH; m. WILBERT LOWELL HALL, May
16, 1941, Galliopolis, Gallia Co, OH; b. Mar 31, 1920, Coral Fork, WV; d. Jul
24, 1995, New Straightsville, OH, at home.
More About MARY ALICE PERSINGER:
Burial: Aug 22, 1998,
Old School Primitive Baptist Cemetery Thurston,ohio
More About WILBERT LOWELL HALL:
Burial: Jul 27, 1995,
Old School Primitive Baptist Cemetery Thurston,ohio
xiii. SHERIDAN LAFAYETTE PERSINGER, b. Apr 09, 1928, Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d.
Jun 19, 1992, Apple Grove, Mason Co, WV; m. WILMA ALLEN; b. Jun 28, 1921,
Hogsett, Mason Co, WV; d. Jul 01, 2003, Ohio.
92. WILLIAM H.9 DUNCAN (MARTHA SUSAN8 PERSINGER, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1854. He married REBECCA J. GRAVES Feb 14,
1878 in Mason Co, WV. She was born 1857
in Anslem, Gallia Co, OH.
Children of WILLIAM DUNCAN and
REBECCA
GRAVES are:
i. WALTER10 DUNCAN,
b. 1878; m. VIRGINIA COMPSTON, Dec 26, 1909, Gallia Co, OH; b. Abt. 1879.
ii. ROSETTA M. DUNCAN, b. Feb 1880; d. Feb 28, 1911, Mason Co, WV; m.
ANDREW
JOHNSON
HALL, Apr 07, 1900, Mason Co, WV; b. Jun 07, 1866, Mason Co, WV; d. Mar 19,
1956, Akron, OH.
iii. MILLARD DUNCAN, b. Nov 1881.
iv. JOHN W. DUNCAN, b. Nov 1883; m. PHOEBA Z. COULTER, Oct 09,
1902; b. Abt. 1884.
v. FREDERICK DUNCAN, b. Dec 1891; m. REBECCA FLINT, Nov
04, 1908; b. Abt. 1892.
vi. HOMER H. DUNCAN, b. Nov 1893.
vii. HENRY S. DUNCAN, b. Jun 1896.
viii. REARLE DUNCAN, b. Feb 1898.
93. MARY E.9 DUNCAN (MARTHA SUSAN8 PERSINGER, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 21, 1855, and died Jun 14, 1934 in 1825 Buffington Ave, Huntington, Cabell
Co, WV. She married RICHARD E. DENNEY Nov 01,
1877 in Gallia Co, OH, son of JAMES DENNEY and NANCY DENNEY. He was
born Abt. 1856 in VA, and died Bef. 1934.
Child of MARY DUNCAN and RICHARD DENNEY is:
i. JAMES EDWARD10 DENNEY,
b. Apr 30, 1878, Beach Hill, WV; d. Jul 29, 1949, Huntington, WV.
94. JONATHAN LEWIS9 DUNCAN (MARTHA SUSAN8 PERSINGER, ANDREW ALEXANDER7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
1859 in Mason Co, WV, and died 1925. He
married RACHEL ANN FETTY. She was
born May 08, 1867 in WV, and died Oct 31, 1938.
Children of JONATHAN DUNCAN
and RACHEL FETTY are:
i. RUBY LILITH10 DUNCAN,
b. Dec 16, 1895; d. Dec 27, 1929; m. ALEXANDER BILLS; b. Apr 22, 1890; d. Aug 1976.
ii. GENVIEVE DUNCAN, b. Abt. 1897.
iii. ARLLIE TURNER DUNCAN, b. Mar 1898.
iv. ROSA VIRGINIA DUNCAN, b. Jul 31, 1900.
v. BERNICE DUNCAN, b. 1904.
95. JAMES WILLIAM9 PERSINGER (HENRY8, GEORGE7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jan 1866 in Indiana; or 1864 as in 1870 cen., and died Nov 24, 1934 in Grayson
Co, KY; age 72. He married MARY E. (?)
PERSINGER. She was born Apr 1874 in KY,
and died Aft. 1900.
Notes for JAMES WILLIAM PERSINGER:
PERSINGER,
WILLIAM (1900 U.S. Census)
KENTUCKY , GRAYSON,
SHREWSBURY PCT
Age: 34, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 523
Page: 102
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PERSINGER,
WILLIAM (1910 U.S. Census)
KENTUCKY , EDMONSON,
6-DIST
age 45, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 469
Page: 285
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1920: misspelled and age is off a few years; is living only with a wife, and not same as
Mary- this one Sarah is 11 years older than William. William says he is from Indiana, but parents
BPs are illegible.
PURSINGER, BILL (1920 U.S. Census)
KENTUCKY , GRAYSON,
SHREWSBURY
Age: 60, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 572
Page: 137
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PERSINGER WILLIAM age
072 GRAYSON 11-24-1934 Vol. 061
Cert#30343 1934
Children of JAMES PERSINGER
and MARY PERSINGER are:
i. DORAH10
PERSINGER, b. Feb 1892, KY; d. Aft. 1910.
ii. JAMES HENRY PERSINGER, b. Apr 1898, KY; d. Aft. 1910, Possibly
died 1977 near Streator, IL.
Notes for JAMES HENRY PERSINGER:
These 5 are closest
matches, but none exact with the April 1898 Birthdate as shown on the 1900
census - the first one is most likely in
my opinion, so I've expanded only it for more details.:
1. James PERSINGER - U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 2 Apr 1897 State Where Number was Issued: Illinois
Death: Jul 1977
James PERSINGER
Birth Date: 2 Apr 1897
Death Date: Jul 1977
Social Security Number: 341-16-4401
State or Territory Where Number Was
Issued: Illinois
Death
Residence Localities
ZIP
Code: 61364
Localities: Kangley,
La Salle, Illinois
Kernan,
La Salle, Illinois
Missal,
La Salle, Illinois
Munster,
La Salle, Illinois
South
Streator, La Salle, Illinois
Streator,
La Salle, Illinois
Streator
East, La Salle, Illinois
Streator
West, La Salle, Illinois
This listing is
possibly connected to one above.
Persinger, James
1831 Aquaduct Rd
Streator, IL 61364-3985
(815) 673-2294
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2. James PERSINGER -
U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 9 Jul 1897 State Where Number was Issued: Wyoming
Death: May 1972
3. James PERSINGER -
U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 9 Jun 1898 State Where Number was Issued: Ohio
Death: Nov 1963
4. James PERSINGER -
U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 17 Feb 1899 State Where Number was Issued: West Virginia
Death: Apr 1968
5. James PERSINGER -
U.S. Social Security Death Index
Birth: 10 Sep 1899 State Where Number was Issued: Oklahoma
Death: Apr 1960
96. PENOLA E.9 PERSINGER (HENRY8, GEORGE7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Mar 17, 1881 in Kentucky- this IS a male, and died Feb 07, 1972 in Grayson Co,
KY; age 90. He married MARY A. (?) PERSINGER
1900 in 1910 census says married 10 yrs..
She was born 1882 in Kentucky, and died Aft. 1920.
Notes for PENOLA E. PERSINGER:
Penola PERSINGER
Birth
Date: 17 Mar 1881
Death
Date: Feb 1972
Social
Security Number: 402-16-9236
State
or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Kentucky
Death
Residence Localities
ZIP
Code: 42754
Localities: Leitchfield,
Grayson, Kentucky
Sadler,
Grayson, Kentucky
South,
Grayson, Kentucky
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PERSINGER PENOLA E
090 OHIO
GRAYSON 02-07-1972 Vol.016 #07734 1972
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This may be his wife ?
PERSINGER ANNA P 076 GRAYSON
GRAYSON 01-25-1973 006 02956 1973
Children of PENOLA PERSINGER
and MARY PERSINGER are:
i. ALLIE10
PERSINGER, b. Jun 05, 1901, Kentucky- or Allen as on 1920 cen; d. Mar 22, 1976,
Grayson Co, KY; vol 16, #7920; age 74.
Notes for ALLIE PERSINGER:
This may be one of his
infant daughters, or more likely Grandaughters deaths at age 2yrs.
PERSINGER, CATHY
E 002 yrs. GRAYSON GRAYSON
03-13-1960 Vol. 016 Cert. # 07848 1960
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From SS records and is
interesting that it was issued at Illinois, but does corroborate : death
residence at his original Grayson Co, KY
Allie PERSINGER
Birth
Date: 5 Jun 1901
Death
Date: Mar 1976
Social
Security Number: 355-03-3709
State
or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Illinois
Death
Residence Localities
ZIP
Code: 42726
Localities: Broad
Ford, Grayson, Kentucky
Clarkson,
Grayson, Kentucky
Grayson
Springs, Grayson, Kentucky
Higdon,
Grayson, Kentucky
Horntown,
Grayson, Kentucky
Iberia,
Grayson, Kentucky
Millerstown,
Grayson, Kentucky
Pearman,
Grayson, Kentucky
Peonia,
Grayson, Kentucky
Rock
Creek, Grayson, Kentucky
Royal,
Grayson, Kentucky
Snap,
Grayson, Kentucky
Wax,
Grayson, Kentucky
ii. PALLIE PERSINGER, b. 1903, Kentucky.
iii. HALLIE PERSINGER, b. 1907, Kentucky.
iv. GRACE PERSINGER, b. 1908, Kentucky.
v. CALLIE PERSINGER, b. 1912, Kentucky; d. Apr 06, 1913, Grayson
Co, KY; less than 1yr.old infant.
Notes for CALLIE PERSINGER:
PURSINGER, CALLIE
under 1yr. old GRAYSON Co, KY DD:
04-06-1913 Vol.021 Cert.# 10083 1913
97. WILLIAM H.9 PERSINGER (WILLIAM L.8, GEORGE7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 1872 in Indiana, and died in Details here assuming he is one at Madison
Co,IN. He married MARY D. (?)
PERSINGER. She was born 1874 in Indiana.
Notes for WILLIAM H. PERSINGER:
I assume this is
William L's son, Wm. H., but cannot be sure, it is the only match and fits
perfectly. This William H. & Mary
report married 9 yrs and we know William was 28 and single in 1900 living with
his widowed mother Mary.
PERSINGER, WILLIAM
H (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , MADISON,
1-WD ELWOOD
Age: 37, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 365
Page: 53
Child of WILLIAM PERSINGER
and MARY PERSINGER is:
i. WILLIAM10
PERSINGER, b. 1905.
98. JACOB L.9 PERSINGER (WILLIAM L.8, GEORGE7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jun 1881 in Indiana. He married IDA (?) PERSINGER
Abt. 1903. She was born 1885 in Indiana.
Notes for JACOB L. PERSINGER:
1910- this is
"probably" William L's son with wife, Ida and 4 children.
PERSINGER, JACOB (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
OWEN TWP
Age: 28, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 357
Page: 208
Children of JACOB PERSINGER
and IDA
PERSINGER are:
i. ARVIL10
PERSINGER, b. 1904, Indiana.
ii. MARY E. PERSINGER, b. 1905, Indiana.
iii. MARIE PERSINGER, b. 1907, Indiana.
iv. ARTHUR PERSINGER, b. Sep 04, 1908, Indiana; d. Apr 1971,
Norman, Jackson Co, IN.
Notes for ARTHUR PERSINGER:
This is the most likely
candidate although there is one more Arthur born in 1908, but the other one is
in Iowa - this one below died at Jackson Co, Indiana where his parents were in
1910, so I think it is almost certain him and will show as such on the family
page:
Arthur PERSINGER
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1908
Death Date: Apr 1971
Social Security
Number: 303-09-5273
State or Territory
Where Number Was Issued: Indiana
Death Residence
Localities
ZIP Code: 47264
Localities: Norman,
Jackson, Indiana
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99. HENRY S.9 PERSINGER (JOHN8, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Dec 12, 1847 in Washington Co, Indiana, and died Jan 25, 1932 in Jackson Co,
IN-3 miles East of Brownstown, IN; age 84.
He married MARY ROBERTSON Jul 29, 1873 in Jackson Co, IN, daughter of
JAMES
ROBERTSON and PHOEBE JACOBS. She
was born Mar 13, 1850 in Hamilton Twp, Jackson Co, Indiana, and died 1932.
Notes for HENRY S. PERSINGER:
1880:
Henry PERSINGER Self M Male W 32 IN Farmer IN IN
Mary PERSINGER
Wife M Female W 30 IN IN IN
John PERSINGER
Son S Male W 5 IN IN IN
Rosana PERSINGER Dau S Female W 4 IN IN IN
Phebe PERSINGER Dau S Female W 2 IN IN IN
Bertie May PERSINGER Dau S Female W 1M IN IN IN
William J. ROBERTSON Other S Male W 18 IL IN IN
Andrew PERSINGER HBro S Male W 16 IN IN IN
Source Information:
Census
Place Hamilton, Jackson, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254286
NA
Film Number T9-0286
Page
Number 82B
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PERSINGER, HENRY (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TWP
Age: 53, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 378
Page: 17
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PERSINGER, HENRY
S (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TWP
Age: 62, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 357
Page: 8
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PERSINGER, HENRY
S (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNTOWN TWP
Age: 72, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 2
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1930: Page 54, Brownstown Twp. (not City) with wife
Mary, daughter Bertie M, Rosana Peters & her son Harlan, but Rosana's
husband is not there, yet it states Rosana is married.
Children of HENRY PERSINGER
and MARY ROBERTSON are:
i. JOHN A.10
PERSINGER, b. 1874, Indiana; d. Aft. 1932, lived at Indianapolis; m. (1) MARY LAFKIN, May
01, 1898, Rockford, IN (near Seymour); His 1st marriage; b. 1879, Indiana -
divorced by 1910 from John A.; d. Aft. 1910; m. (2) JANE LAND, Dec 31,
1910, Westport, IN - his 2nd marriage; b. 1884, Indiana; d. Aft. 1920,
Children's BDs estimated per 1920 census.
Notes for JOHN A. PERSINGER:
See 1st wife Mary's
notes. She is shown clearly as Divorced
in 1910 with the daughters, Nellie & Beatrice.
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Persinger names listed
at or near Indianapolis as of November 2005:
Persinger, Bobbie
J
10605 Stormhaven Way
Indianapolis, IN
46256-9524
(317) 842-4877
Persinger, C J
5440 E Saint Clair St
Indianapolis, IN
46219-4412
(317) 375-2645
Persinger, Charles
5812 Annandale Dr
Carmel, IN 46033-9227
(317) 574-0443
Persinger, David L
4420 W 800th N
Fairland, IN 46126-9438
(317) 835-7542
Persinger, Donald
E
4032 Eagle Cove East Dr
Indianapolis, IN
46254-4694
(317) 299-7444
Persinger, Irene
Indianapolis, IN 46234
(317) 271-0681
Persinger, J
6510 E County Road 350
N
Brownsburg, IN
46112-9450
(317) 852-2639
Persinger, J R
10 Roselawn Ave
Brownsburg, IN 46112-1926
(317) 852-3100
Persinger, Jaime
10 Roselawn Ave
Brownsburg, IN
46112-1926
(317) 852-3286
Persinger, James
1609 Forrest Dr
Plainfield, IN
46168-1931
(317) 838-0376
Notes for MARY LAFKIN:
1910: She is clearly shown Divorced by a
"D" designation in 1910 with the 2 girls, Nellie & Beatrice.
PERSINGER, MARY (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON, 1-WD
JACKSON
Age: 30, Female, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 357
Page: 126
ii. ROSANA PERSINGER, b. Apr 1877, Indiana- or 1876; d. Aft.
1932; m. (1) DAN P. MORGAN; b. Abt. 1876; m. (2) FRANK PETERS, 1905,
She says married at age 28.; b. Abt. 1876; d. Dec 31, 1931, MVA.
iii. PHEBE PERSINGER, b. 1878, Indiana; d. 1893, Died at 15 yrs.
old.
iv. BERTIE MAY PERSINGER, b. May 1880, Indiana -or 1876- Never
married; d. 1949.
v. CARRIE PERSINGER, b. Jun 1885, Indiana; lived near
Brownstown, IN; d. Abt. 1980, Robertson Cem. between Brownstown & Seymour;
m. ANDREW FOSBRINK; b. 1885, Indiana.
Notes for CARRIE PERSINGER:
FOSBRINK, ANDIE (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNTOWN TWP
Age: 34, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 4
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Fosbrink, Alvin L
307 S Water St
Brownstown, IN
47220-2041
(812) 358-2971
Fosbrink, Carl L
2447 N County Road 1000
E
Seymour, IN 47274-9248
(812) 522-3048
Fosbrink, Jay
8586 W County Road 275
S
Medora, IN 47260-9730
(812) 966-0241
Fosbrink, Keith
7357 N Us Highway 31
Seymour, IN 47274-8534
(812) 524-7276
Fosbrink, Rodney M <<< Carrie & Andrew's youngest
son - I spoke with them November 2005, but they felt neither they nor any other
descendants of Carrie were likely interested in genealogy - they took my phone
& Email down just in case.
269 E US Highway 50
Brownstown, IN
47220-9515
(812) 358-2327
Fosbrink, Susan
9741 N County Road 700
E
Seymour, IN 47274-9604
(812) 522-7067
Fosbrink, Tim
Seymour, IN 47274
(812) 522-8381
Fosbrink, Wayne
10337 E County Road 900
N
Seymour, IN 47274-9702
(812) 522-3044
vi. JAMES R. PERSINGER, b. Feb 1888, Indiana; d. Abt. 1938, lived
at Jackson Co, IN; m. INEZ B. REYNOLDS, Jul 24, 1909, Jackson Co, IN; b. 1892,
Indiana; d. Aft. 1938.
Notes for JAMES R. PERSINGER:
1910, this is he with
Inez only:
PERSINGER, JAMES (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TWP
Age: 19, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 357
Page: 5
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1920: With wife, Inez
and one daughter, Helen, age 9.
PERSINGER, JAMES R (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNTOWN TWP
Age: 29, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 2
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1930: He is on Page 55
at Brownstown Twp., not far from parents Henry & Mary.
100. ANNA MARIA9 PERSINGER (JOHN8, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Apr 04, 1855 in Washington Co, Indiana, and died Oct 07, 1944 in Gary, IN;
lived at Elwood, Madison Indiana. She
married (1) WILLIAM ROBERTSON 1879, son of JAMES
ROBERTSON. He was born Aug 22, 1843 in
Prob. John Wm.. She married (2) GEORGE HENRY KNOST Jan
06, 1884 in Jackson Co, IN, son of GERHARDT KNOST and MARIA HAVEKOTTE. He
was born Feb 22, 1852 in Elizabethtown, Bartholomew, Indiana; LDS, and died Nov
11, 1933 in Shields, Jackson Co, IN.
Notes for ANNA MARIA PERSINGER:
Believe Ann 1st married
a Robertson and have child William J. Robertson born 1880/81 at Brownstown,
then a few years later married George H. Knost.
Notes for GEORGE HENRY KNOST:
1880, George was single, 4 yrs. before he
married Ann.
George KNOST Self S Male
W 27 IN Blacksmith
HANOVER
HAN
Source Information:
Census
Place Brownstown, Jackson, Indiana
Family
History Library Film 1254286
NA
Film Number T9-0286
Page
Number 32B
Child of ANNA PERSINGER and
WILLIAM
ROBERTSON is:
i. WILLIAM JOHN10
ROBERTSON, b. Jul 1880, Jackson County, IN; d. 1945; m. ANNA MYRTLE GARIS, Jun
07, 1905; b. 1882, Jackson County, IN; d. 1953.
Children of ANNA PERSINGER and
GEORGE
KNOST are:
ii. CHARLES GERALD10 KNOST, b.
Nov 12, 1884, Brownstown, Jackson Co, Indiana; d. Nov 1970, Anderson, IN; m. VIVIAN LEONA WILBUR, Mar
03, 1919, Elwood, IN - Madison Co.; b. Mar 03, 1885, Bellaire, Belmont Co, OH;
d. Mar 01, 1941, Gary, IN.
iii. HOWARD FERRAL KNOST, b. Nov 08, 1888, Indiana; d. Dec 13, 1933,
Chicago, IL; m. LEONA FRANCIS MILLER, Jul 10, 1917; b. May 13, 1891.
101. JOHN BENJAMIN9 PERSINGER (JOHN8, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jan 1862 in Indiana- BD per 1900 cen.; or 1863, and died Aug 21, 1935 in
Richland Co, IL - prob. Olney, IL. He
married FANNIE MARIA HOLDEN Jan 15, 1890 in Richland Co, IL. She was born Feb 1868 in Illinois - or 1870,
and died Aft. 1920.
Notes for JOHN BENJAMIN
PERSINGER:
Persingers near Olney
as of November 2005 (none listed in Olney):
All 3 of these
Persinger's below are descendants of Heber from Clay Co, so there are no
Persinger's listed near Olney who are from John B.
Persinger, Jim &
Anita - He is Grandson of Heber's son
Robert and doesn't know about John B's line that went to Olney, but lives only
a few miles away.
RR 1
Noble, IL 62868-9801
(618) 854-2701
Persinger, Robert << left TAM message November 2005
8037 E Berryville Ln
Calhoun, IL 62419-2312
(618) 456-9102
Persinger, Robert << Left TAM message Nov. 2005
4899 E Wayne Ln
Parkersburg, IL
62452-2006
(618) 442-5240
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November 14, 2005:
Contact made with Mike
Sly, Grandson of Tillie Persinger, twin daughter of John B. Persinger.
--------------------------------------------
PERSINGER, JOHN to
HOLDEN, FANNIE MARIA
01/15/1890 003/0160
00000006 RICHLAND Co, IL
Children of JOHN PERSINGER and
FANNIE
HOLDEN are:
i. MAUDE ETHEL10
PERSINGER, b. Dec 1891, Illinois; d. Mar 30, 1970; m. MR. BRUMMETT; b.
Abt. 1890.
ii. LILLY PERSINGER, b. Nov 1892, Illinois- twin of Tillie; d.
Nov 28, 1961; m. MR. LENEAR; b. Abt. 1892.
iii. TILLIE PERSINGER, b. Nov 1892, Illinois- twin of Lilly, GM of
Mike Sly; d. 1982; m. GEORGE ALLEN SLY, Mar 1909; b. May 1889, Illinois; d. Aft. 1920.
Notes for TILLIE PERSINGER:
SLY, GEORGE A (1910 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , RICHLAND,
MADISON TWP
Age: 20, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T624 Roll: 318
Page: 209
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SLY, GEORGE (1920 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , RICHLAND,
5-WD OLNEY
Age: 30, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T625 Roll: 401
Page: 129
iv. RACHEL ANN PERSINGER, b. Jun 1895, Illinois; d. Aug 1974; m. MR. ABBOTT; b. Abt.
1894.
v. FLORA IDA PERSINGER, b. 1898, Illinois; d. May 1977, only female
still at home by 1920; m. MR. BROY; b. Abt. 1898.
vi. SARAH IZOLA PERSINGER, b. Feb 12, 1900, Illinois; m. TONY HERR; b. Abt.
1900.
vii. GEORGE PERSINGER, b. Jun 02, 1904, Illinois; d. Jan 15, 1973,
Richland Co, IL.
Notes for GEORGE PERSINGER:
George PERSINGER
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1904
Death Date: Jan 1973
Social Security
Number: 342-09-4751
State or Territory
Where Number Was Issued: Illinois
Death Residence
Localities
ZIP Code: 62450
Localities: Olney,
Richland, Illinois
Orchard Heights,
Richland, Illinois
Stringtown, Richland, Illinois
viii. RALPH C. PERSINGER, b. Jan 15, 1907, Illinois; d. Nov 01, 2000,
Walkerton, St. Joseph Co, Indiana- SW of South Bend.
Notes for RALPH C. PERSINGER:
Ralph PERSINGER
Birth Date: 15 Jan 1907
Death Date: 1 Nov 2000
Social Security
Number: 342-09-4849
State or Territory
Where Number Was Issued: Illinois
Death Residence
Localities
ZIP Code: 46574
Localities: Walkerton,
Saint Joseph, Indiana
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I found no Persinger
names listed at Walkerton and only one
near there:
Persinger, Joann
3018 Roger St
South Bend, IN
46628-1741
(574) 234-6566
102. ISAIAH B. "ZEKE"9 PERSINGER (JOHN8, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Jul 11, 1869 in Indiana; dt cert & obit says 1863; 1900 cen. says 1871, and
died Apr 06, 1953 in Brownstown, IN; Mt. Eden Cem., Washington Co.. He married LOUELLA LOCKHART Oct 11, 1890 in
Washington Co, IN, daughter of THOMAS LOCKHART and PHOEBE WILCUTT. She
was born Apr 18, 1874 in Indiana, and died Jun 08, 1954 in Brownstown, IN; Age
80; Mt. Eden Cem, Washington Co..
Notes for ISAIAH B. "ZEKE"
PERSINGER:
These 3 are all
clearly the same man with same children & wife, despite the significant
variations in implied BD (in 20 yrs. he ages 27 yrs.):
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PERSINGER, ISAIAH (1900 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , WASHINGTON,
GIBSON TWP
Age: 29, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T623 Roll: 411
Page: 43
----------------------------------------------------
PERSINGER, ISAIAH (1910 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TWP
Age: 44, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T624 Roll: 357
Page: 4
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PERSINGER, ISIAH (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , JACKSON,
BROWNSTOWN TOWN; BROWNTOWN TWP
Age: 56, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 439
Page: 24
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Children of ISAIAH PERSINGER
and LOUELLA LOCKHART are:
i. CARRIE10
PERSINGER, b. Aug 1894, Indiana; or Nov. 1895?; m. SANFORD EUGENE BLEVINS; b.
Dec 07, 1889, Indiana; d. Abt. 1932, Jackson Co, IN; bur. Brownstown, IN.
ii. PHEBE PERSINGER, b. Feb 1898, Indiana -or 1897, lived at
Indianapolis; m. GLENN SMITH, uncertain of children's order of birth; b. Abt.
1896.
iii. THOMAS JEFFERSON PERSINGER, b. Aug 1899, Indiana -Geo. Persinger's GF,
or 1900; d. 1963; m. NORA ISABELLE GATOR; b. 1904, Illinois; d. 1992.
Notes for THOMAS JEFFERSON
PERSINGER:
1930: On Page 32 at Brownstown, Indiana
----------------
This may be him in
1920, still single:
PERSINGER, THOMAS (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , VANDERBURGH,
3-WD; EVANSVILLE; PIGEON TWP
Age: 20, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 470
Page: 124
iv. COURTNEY PERSINGER, b. 1904, Indiana; d. Aft. 1920, Inmate at
Indiana Girls School in Indianapolis.
Notes for COURTNEY PERSINGER:
Assume this is same
Courtney, here is a 15 y.o. inmate
PERSINGER,
COURTNEY (1920 U.S. Census)
INDIANA , MARION,
INDIANA GIRLS SCHOOL
Age: 15, Female, Race:
WHITE, Born: IN
Series: T625 Roll: 450
Page: 18
v. JOHN PERSINGER, b. Oct 31, 1908, Indiana- lived at
Brownstown, IN; d. Brownstown, IN - Jackson Co.; m. MARGARET KATHRYN BOLING; b.
Oct 16, 1910, Indiana.
Notes for JOHN PERSINGER:
1930: at Brownstown Township (not city) Page 49
with wife & one infant daughter, Dolores.
103. HEBER9 PERSINGER (JOHN8, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER *5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
May 10, 1884 in Illinois, may have been adopted by John, and died 1945 in
Flora, IL; bur. Elmwood Cem, Flora, IL.
He married CLEO NASH Dec 23, 1903 in 1910 census shows married 6
yrs., daughter of HENRY NASH and HENRIETTA NASH. She was
born 1885 in Illinois, and died Aft. 1920.
Notes for HEBER PERSINGER:
A birth certificate
for an unamed child at Clay Co, IL born May 10, 1884 shows parents: Martha Carter (as expected) but Father is
William WOOD.
Instead of John
Persinger. So, wonder if John adopted
Heber ?
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PERSINGER, HEBER (1910 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , CLAY, BIBLE
GROVE TWP
Age: 25, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T624 Roll: 233
Page: 109
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PERSINGER, HEBER (1920 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , CLAY, BIBLE
GROVE
Age: 35, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: IL
Series: T625 Roll: 303
Page: 2
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1930 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , CLAY,
HARTER TWP (NORTH PART)
Series: T626 Roll: 411
Page: 84
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Persinger, Adam &
Nicole
333 Lincoln Ave
Flora, IL 62839-2171
(618) 662-4042
Persinger, Angela
N
344 Karr St
Flora, IL 62839-2755
(618) 662-7411
Persinger, Carl
209 Adams St
Flora, IL 62839-2254
(618) 662-2322
Persinger, Dan
116 Adams St
Flora, IL 62839-2201
(618) 662-8780
Persinger, Mark &
Karen
7887 Old Highway 50
Flora, IL 62839-4104
(618) 662-8670
Persinger, Matt
209 Adams St
Flora, IL 62839-2254
(618) 662-3744
Persinger,
Michael
Flora, IL 62839
(618) 662-9390
Persinger, Robert
& Esther
402 W Third St
Flora, IL 62839-1206
(618) 662-9356
Persinger, Rodney D
& Tina A
Flora, IL 62839
(618) 662-6039
Persinger, Steve &
Lisa
96 Forest Dr
Flora, IL 62839-3380
(618) 662-8986
Children of HEBER PERSINGER
and CLEO NASH are:
i. KENNETH10
PERSINGER, b. 1904, Illinois- or 1905; d. Aft. 1930.
ii. CASSELL PERSINGER, b. 1907, Illinois; d. Aft. 1930.
iii. BERNICE PERSINGER, b. 1910, Illinois; d. Aft. 1930.
iv. BERNARD PERSINGER, b. 1914, Illinois; d. Aft. 1930.
v. RAYMOND PERSINGER, b. 1917, Illinois; d. Aft. 1930.
vi. HAROLD PERSINGER, b. 1920, Flora, Illinois; d. Aft. 1930.
vii. ROBERT PERSINGER, b. 1924, Illinois; d. Abt. 1954.
Notes for ROBERT PERSINGER:
Robert died of double
suicide with his wife.
viii. THELMA PERSINGER, b. 1927, Illinois; d. lives at Flora, IL.
Notes for THELMA PERSINGER:
Listing is under
Thelma's husbands name
Lauderback, R W
414 E Fifth St
Flora, IL 62839-1905
(618) 662-8527
104. RHODA LILLIAN9 THOMPSON (MARTHA ELLEN8 PERSINGER, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Oct 12, 1879 in IN, and died Nov 21, 1914.
She married (1) WILLIAM ROBERT BRANAMAN Apr 18, 1896, son of WILLIAM BRANAMAN
and NANCY BUSH. He was born Oct 30, 1878
in Indiana, and died Aug 26, 1952 in had 3 wives. She married (2) WILLIAM FRANKLIN POLLOCK
Mar 17, 1900. He was born Jul 26, 1867,
and died Jan 03, 1955.
Child of RHODA THOMPSON and
WILLIAM
BRANAMAN is:
i. HALLIE10 BRANAMAN,
b. Mar 24, 1897; d. Jan 08, 1919; m. JOHN STERLING, Jul 17, 1915; b. Abt. 1896.
Child of RHODA THOMPSON and
WILLIAM
POLLOCK is:
ii. WILLIAM EVERETT10 POLLOCK,
b. Oct 11, 1901; d. Nov 05, 1988; m. ELLEN WILLIAMS; b. Feb 10, 1902; d. Jan 05, 1985.
More About WILLIAM EVERETT POLLOCK:
Burial: Crown Hill Cemetery,
Salem, Washington County, Indiana
More About ELLEN WILLIAMS:
Burial: Crown Hill
Cemetery, Salem, Washington County, Indiana
105. WILLIE MAE9 SIMPSON (NANCY ANN8 PERSINGER, HENRY7, JOHN GEORGE *6, CHRISTOPHER
*5, JACOB *4 PERDSCHINGER, SR., HEINRICH *3 BERTSCHINGER, HANS * HEINRICH2 BERTSHINGER, RUDOLPH *1) was born
Nov 28, 1875 in Indiana, and died Aft. 1880.
She married JAMES A. DEAN Jan 15, 1893 in Richland Co, IL; Vol. 3, Page
201, Lic.#5, son of MR. DEAN and MRS. DEAN. He was
born 1872 in OH.
Notes for WILLIE MAE SIMPSON:
DEAN, JAMES to
SIMPSON, WILLIE
01/15/1893
Vo. 003/ 0201 00000005 RICHLAND Co, IL
Notes for JAMES A. DEAN:
DEAN, JAMES A (1910 U.S. Census)
ILLINOIS , RICHLAND,
MADISON TWP
Age: 38, Male, Race:
WHITE, Born: OH
Series: T624 Roll: 318
Page: 215
Children of WILLIE SIMPSON and
JAMES
DEAN are:
i. NELLIE T.10 DEAN, b.
IL.
ii. FRANCES M. DEAN, b. 1900, IL.
iii. JENNIE G. DEAN, b. 1904.